I seem to enjoy F2P games only when I have very limited time to game...as in say the last 2 months...I must say that the F2P Im playing now isnt horrible at all...the cash shop doesnt interest me in the slightest and I have not felt like I was less cool or gonna be ganked because I didnt spend money in the game...will that last? probably not...but this isnt a life long committment I'm making either...its just something to kill time...so F2P as a movement doesnt bother me...as long as they have a few really good sub games around somewhere for me to marry into when more free time opens up

well...i started playing MMO's in 2005...so yes...it at least grew by 1 since '04...and I have never played WOW...and never will so I wont be helping their sub numbers 

having played games that had a DP as well as those that havent...I must say that having a DP does add a sense of depth to the game for me...and I'm a PVE'r...I start to feel more connected to my character and if something happens and I do die it makes me rethink my previous decisions and strategies as well as feel a sense of temporary  loss for whatever I have lost...however I will say that I have quit a game over a harsh DP...I felt that the game was really unbalanced and there were just too many ways to die...so I couldnt justify putting in many hours of work for that particular game...other than that if a game is well made and a DP is well implemented I think it can really enhance my gaming experience...i hardly consider it "lazy" development...just another aspect that can increase depth to a gaming experience if done right

Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 

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Originally posted by Ashlura
Its only the people attempting to fight for carebear land that are arguing the points for the developers.
We arent griefers. I just wont kick people from the Guild because they choose to do it. We dont run Corpse Camping events, but I can tell you, the best way to start a fight is to mess with people. This is when they call in the troops.
 
Why look for a fight, when you can bring one to you?
 
It's simple gaming. For those that say you have played this and that, obviously you have stuck with the lighter side of things in those games. You gank, to inspire others Guildies to come fight for their people. This is how you get Guild vs Guild in World PvP. Deal with it.
 
My post here wasnt meant for drama, it was meant to spread the word. There arent many RPrs left in the World. I havent even played the game yet, but based off of what the dev said to me, yeah, the game will fail. I will resurrect this post later when it does ;) To meet todays needs, you HAVE to meet the needs of all player types. 
 
Gaming, Griefing, Corpse Camping = All is fair in love and war.
 
Hate me all you want, but without me, the world is boring. Without threat from another player coming around the corner the game feels dull. Without someone to get your adrenaline pumping, the game will lose its luster. If all you want is a safe haven, you might as well play a console game. Just saying.
 
What's funny is that everyone that responded here is over there too. :D No one else even gives a shit. But when the games FAQ catches their eye like it did mine, then they will see my post and:
1) Play it just to make your lives a living hell
2) Not play it which brings no revenue to the developers which eventually leads to shutting down the project :D
 
Good luck

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Since you seem to be such a "hardcore" pvper why don't you join the Marines and see some real PvP?

as a girl who enjoys  MMO's...I have to say that WOW never appealed to me...not even a little bit...the only games I have ever really been into was Ryzom...Istaria...and Im dabbling around in Vanguard...thats about it...I've tried many..most on the list here...but WOW just never once seemed to draw me in

nope...I would never play a game that forced me to group...I choose to group when I want to but if I knew that the only way to ever get anything accomplised was to group...even on days when I just didnt want too then that game wouldnt be for me.

It was my first and I still resort back to it from time to time...regardless of its official status there is no denying its popular and must be appealing to someone (thats evident upon logging in)...there are always people on..the game itself was always fun to me

 I wonder if the DSM-IV will mention this new addiction...I know when I was school we didnt study this as an actual addiction...but its been two years so maybe more people are recognizing the issue

Originally posted by ArchAngel102

And absolutely NO REASON to abandon a game because of it.

 

hmm...I think I will quit any damn game anytime I want because of any REASON I decide; and then to end your argument by insulting anyone who doesnt agree with you...quite frankly shows your maturity level.

To the point though...If I can pay a monthly sub and get everything in game then thats the game I will play...no matter how long it takes me to get content...I enjoy the game and have no problem earning my rewards...I have no desire or need to play a game with MT...its not my style and yes I think it ends up corrupting games (thats just my OWN opinion) does that make me a redneck? no more than me living in the deepsouth does...just means I wont play your game

Best: Ryzom and Istaria...I truly enjoy these games and a large part is because of the community

Worst: some of the F2P communities were the only ones that ever bothered me (but Im not an MMO whore...Ive only played a handful of games)

When I signed up for the free trial I had trouble receiving my confirmation email...I eventually had to give them my husbands email address and I received it instantly. For whatever reason Yahoo mail receives some of their emails but not all of them

The skill list in their forum looks very promising...I think I will try this one as well :)

For me the one thing I look for in a game is some form of crafting/life skills...I cant just kill kill kill...that will bore me within minutes...I need to be able to work on other skills that make my character feel a little more real in some sense

Ive been tiptoeing on that line the past few days but I think I will be giving it a shot after this weekend  

hmm...I wonder if they made up already??...but coming from a girl...if it is just a hobby then it is just a hobby...all of my boyfriends have had hobbies whether it be painting/gaming/hunting you name it...and I was not a part of any of it...and our relationships were fine in that aspect...Ive always been a gamer and they have always respected that but mark my words if  one of my past  boyfriend's hobbies had prevented them from spending time with me...or turning me down for sex (come on guys really?!) ...that is a problem that needs real help and I would have moved on real fast to find another man to satisfy me...so put it into perspective...if you want to be with her...then you need to make time for her...simple as that

I personally think you have an opinion about a game the moment it starts...yes it may be shaky at first and if you have the time or will to get past some bad parts Im sure some games do "open up" at X level...thats not how I am though...I tend to install/uninstall the moment I find I just cant get into the game...I feel that my opinion is valid to me no matter how long I've been playing X game...the problem on the forums tends to come in with people really not knowing how to debate or "argue considerately"...people end up yelling and screaming insults at each other with differing opinions rather than just simply saying "I dont quite agree and here is why"...I think its a matter of maturity ....and judging by some posts I've read you can tell the maturity level rather quickly depending on how someone tries to get their point across

Originally posted by Venger

Since mmos are fantasy virtual life simulators not team based sports your example is pretty bad. Unless you’re telling us you don’t leave the house without 5 of your friends?

LOL! I totally agree!!

I must be missing something here...I still dont understand how pre-ordering any game prevents another industry from creating an innovative game? I would never blindly just pre-order anything but even if I did it doesnt mean that I wouldn't support another game from another company if that game was just as good or better...maybe someone can explain to me where the problem lies in pre-ordering and how that affects other games being cookiecutters?

For me I need a decent crafting system and a variety of trade/life skills in a game in order for it to hold my interest...without that its pretty much over for me

I tend to really like fantasy MMOs over sci-fi...just my taste I guess