The title of this competition so tricked me, and I suppose that's partially the idea.. :P Either way it's a great prize and I hope to get a part of it!

Of course, Pie = truth, Cake = lie. Remember that, the cake is a lie...

On topic though, I must agree with most of you people. Problem though is not that people are getting bored of MMO's, the idea of an mmo still rocks the world. However since MMOs became "the big thing" it also became very mainstream, and as anyone knows it's extremely hard to break the mold of mainstream.

Sure, many games claim to do just that but in fact the mmo development thinking is so linear the ones that "stands out" aren't much different than the rest.

What we really need is some kind of revolutionary mind, maybe a big fat chaos would create that, like Blizzard shutting down or something like that. Maybe that would stir the pot a bit, and man it sure needs stirring....

(PS. Yes I would qualify Guild Wars as an MMO. Even if it's instanced most of the time it's still "Massive" in the fact that the cities connect all players together seamlessly. I would even dare to say that it's more Massive than many other MMOs because of the possibility to jump between any regional server at any time.)

I agree with most posters already, the only true competitor to GW would be Hellgate:London. On the other hand it's combat style is totally different and much more fast paced. I personally like the GW style a lot better. Sure, GW might loose some at the start, especially those who tend to lean towards FPS games more than RPG but in general, what I've seen on HG:L doesn't surpass GW.

Btw, when was GW an action RPG successor to Diablo? I don't think they are very much alike, at all.

Yay! I got in aswell, activated account without problem but apparently they haven't released the file yet, get a File not Found error.

I can't seem to find anything about this on Google either but I read it on national newspapers here in Sweden aswell. Apparently it's the European Union that suits Microsoft for abusing it's dominant position in the market.

For those of you who know swedish you can read about it here: http://www.metro.se/se/article/tt/2007/09/17/microsoftdom/index.xml

For those of you who don't (and do) here's the English report filed by the European Union (PDF): http://www.curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiques/cp07/aff/cp070063en.pdf

Actually I don't think a comparission between these games is silly at all, VG and EQ2 are two games that are similar in many ways and the choice between them in many peoples mind these days.

Sure, EQ2 have had a lot more time to evolve and add content but I'm sure most people are smart enough to see through that and compare the two on a leveled basis. For example, what has VG that EQ2 doesn't have even when they've had much more time in develoment? What does EQ2 have that VG seemingly will never have no matter how many years from now? How was the EQ2 release compared to the VG one? Etc, etc.

I think it's healthy to compare games in the same category and style (not Wow and Ryzom for example, but sure Wow and LOTRO) since it gives people the chance to see what features draw them most and what style of game one really wants to play.

Oh dear, I can see the future of this thread clearly in my eyes, another flame VG until there's only ashes left.

I'll try to start it in the other direction though.

I've played both EQ2 and VG for aorund 3-4 months each so I'm no hardcore in either of them but my unbiasad opinions is that I had much more fun with VG than I did with EQ2, believe it or not.

EQ2 beats VG when it comes to content 100 times over, it beats VG when it comes to population 10 times over and it beats VG with stability issues.. hmm, I'm not sure it beats VG with stability issues.. I play VG much more smothly than I ever did EQ2, strange.

Either way VG has something I never felt in EQ2, it has a world that feels like it's an open and true exciting fantasy environment with you being it's inhabitant. In EQ2, and many other games, the world is there for you only and it's purpose is to give you the exp and materials you need. The freedom in VG I felt was much more visual, you can travel to remote places and explore new ways of getting that hard sought experience and loot, you can go on an exploration trip with the goal to find those rare nodes of resources that everyone wants or you can visit all the different towns and work with your diplomatic skill convincing them to help you or at least not kill you on sight.

In EQ2 it was much more, do this, do that, when you're done go to this town and continue doing this and that. Eventually all you're doing is going from town 1 to outpost 2 to village 3 doing quest after quest after quest that where always perfectly suited for your level.

VG has one more thing that I loved, community. Yes I know it's small (I play on the Florendyl server) but the one that's there is amazing, so friendly and willing to immerse themselves in the world that it adds even more to the liveliness of the environment.

Well, that was my 5 copper.

No Tenebroso, I don't think it's too early to go back, I played for around one month when the game was initially released and found it quite horrible in terms of stability so I quit. I have now returned (played for a week so far) and find it MUCH better.

You still have to have in mind that many servers are very empty, however if I remember correctly I think Florendyl, Targonor, Infineum and Tarridon? are the most populated ones with Florendyl being RP and Tarridon PvP. I personally recommend Florendyl if you're into roleplaying and I've had a great time there with quite a bunch of people playing at peak times. I have no big troubles finding a group around my level and I've seen many new people coming in.

Give it a try and stick with it for a while, I don't think you'll be dissapointed.

Archion @ Florendyl

This is great!

By the way, the link to the beta-application is incorrect.. remove the http:// at the end.

[url=http://www.codemasters.com/generic/ddo-beta.php]This[url] is the correct link.