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baff I'm not even arguing about the length of her sentence, here again someone reads and only hears what they want to, again it's the "mob mentality" the "oh you're not one of us" so you come back with the same type of response. Something that has nothing to do with the words written above you, did you see the little "she deserves to be punished"?

A court is not suppose to be run like a circus, nor is anybody suppose to be singled out as an example, not in American law, the laws are suppose to be delivered equally. If anyone in this forum really was concerned about justice they would be asking "why isn't every drunk driver treated like this?" instead of just gloating over one crying girl. If every drunk driver did get treated like this we'd have a lot less drunks who actually are killing people, that would be justice. To make an example of one but let the others go is a mockery, and as far from what our laws are suppose to do as you can get.

I've known people, some of them friends and family, who have been killed by drunk drivers, even had one killed right in front of me, said goodbye to his girlfriend, went to cross the street to his car and was dead before he got half way across. Laws and harsh punishment are needed but not just to one singled out little airhead, they should apply to everyone.

In my opinion this judge just wanted to be in the news, to have his 15 minutes of fame for being the one who finally put her where she belongs, this doesn't mean she should be set free but it does mean that the judicial system needs to be looked at, and laws need to be applied the same to anyone, especially when they endanger the lives of others.

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I'll repeat what I said in a form that you cannot report

First off, since someone obviously can't read simple english I'll repeat what I've said all along

::Yells in your ear::
YES PARIS IS GUILTY
YES SHE DESERVES TO BE PUNISHED
I HAVE NEVER STATED OTHERWISE
::Puts his ear to yours and listens to the echo::

You guys want to keep repeating the list of crimes and claiming to know laws, if you really had a clue about laws you would know that laws differ in every state, in every county, and in every city, what may be true in one is not always the same in another unless it's a federal crime, so much for your pseudo claims to being knowledgeable in the law. It also shows that not one of you who have responded that way have bothered to read.

You keep repeating those lists and ignoring what I've said all along, attacking me only because I'm not part of your little mob mentality. I've never said one nice thing about the girl, yet I've had claims that I'm "infatuated". I've never disputed guilt or punishment yet you repeat the same lists in the same brain dead manner. You try and claim maturity for yourselves and that you are only seeking justice in a thread that is full of nothing but gloating and photos of a girl crying with captions like "Justice never looked so sweet", yeah real just and real mature.

What I do dispute is the mob mentality of gloating and kicking someone who cannot defend their self here, if you want to try and claim maturity you've got a long long way to go yourself, and I dispute the right of a judge who raves like an obvious maniac to sit on the bench, a judge is suppose to be fair and impartial, not a raving lunatic out to make a name for himself nor a person who wants to make an example of one single person, law is suppose to be applied the same to all, not just to one while others do the same.

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by TimeViewer 

Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.

Frankly, just because you say I am contradicting myself doesn't make it so. I stand by my statement. It is her conduct that I don't like. Second off, I frankly do not care whether you are about my own age our not. Please tell me where your criminal justice/legal degree comes from. This is my field of expertise.

Im afraid it does make it so, your first sentence was that you neither like nor dislike her then you second went on to describe that you don't like her attitude, the two are not mutually exclusive they are one and the same you're trying to act like you're impartial but your obviously not, as to the age I mentioned that because you wanted to try talking down to me, fine you want to act like an ass I'll treat you like one instead of trying to converse with you like an adult. Grow the hell up and look at what a petty little schmuck you're acting like fool.

The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.

She was released from jail for health reasons. Overcrowding was not the reason given. This is why the Sheriff was subjected to contempt of court charges. In an overcrowding situation prisoners are transferred between various county jails to meet capacity restrictions. You seem to feel release from jail for overcrowding purposes is acceptable in our society. It is not, taxpayer's like you whine about the costs, whine when they become victims, but fail to put up the tax dollars to take correction action to address the problem.  

I read the article and yes it did say that the Sheriff released her due to overcrowding, try reading the damn thing yourself

The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.

Your truth may be jealousy and sex, my truth, and the truth of many others, is they she exhibits contempt for the criminal justice system, turning it into a mockery, because she believes she is above the laws of our society. Remember when Leona Helmsley said "only the little people pay taxes". She went to jail because she exhibited contempt for the justice system, indicating that her behaviour was not modifiable. Martha Stewert went to jail for perjury, lying to law enforcement officials. Telling the truth is a fundamental pillar of our criminal justice system, if there is no expectation that a person will tell the truth before a grand jury, our entire criminal justice system stands in jeopardy.

Truth is self evident and it's very self evident in this string from the postings that it is nothing more than childish gloating

To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.

The judge did his job properly. The OJ verdict was not guilty, you may wish to send a man to prison for murder following a not guilty verdict, but it is totally inappropriate. Paris did not plea not guilty, she acknowledged DUI.

Obviously you are the one incapable of objective analysis of the facts in this case, with little understanding of the inner workings of the criminal justice system. Yes, I am pleased, as are many others, that justice was served in this case. Crying for her mother in the police car is another inappropriate example of not acknowledging and atoning for her DUI. She is still trying to avoid responsibility for her actions.

 I'd have to say that you're the one incapable of being objective since you're so dead set on gloating on a girl crying in the car, how utterly pathetic, like I said grow the hell up schmuck You're not interested in justice at all just in serving some petty inner need to pick on someone you so obviously dislike, what is it does she remind you of some girl who blew you off? or maybe every girl who didn't like you. You're just as pathetic as every other schmuck here posting their little gloating, actually you're even worse because at least most of them are not trying to hide behind a false air of impartiality. 

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by TimeViewer

 

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by TimeViewer

@olddaddy (in lieu of quoting you) you're still doing the same thing everyone else is doing, slapping her in jail just because you don't like her. As to sticking her celebrity status at everyone who did that in the first place? The media, everytime we turn around she, or the flavor of the time, is slapped all over the news. Other people have come on, done their little "I'm sorry" tour, doesn't mean they actually mean it, hell if they couldn't lie about it they wouldn't be very good actors or politicians would they?

She may need to learn a lesson but as I said before I've seen people do far worse and get off with far less, hell I see it every day. What we really need is the media to stop flashing her, and others on the TV, newspapers, radio, and internet everytime they step outside or act like an idiot, I know enough idiots without having my media flooded with more. Just look at this forum alone, how many gloating posts and threads have been made? and why? It's not real news it's just a distraction, and a poor one at best.

Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.

 

Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.

No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.

Oh, and this...

 

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by baff

She's not accountable to you Oldy, and much more of the world revolves around her than ever will you or I.

And if you go to the same restaurent as her, you aren't going to get first choice of table either.

 

Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.

She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.

 

Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her

ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed. 

Originally posted by Lanmoragon
Timeviewer do you realize she broke the law?  We dont need to feel hate for her to think she should serve her jail time.  She broke the law, several times.  Hell she even got off the hook once.  Then she goes to jail and has an "illness" that gives her a get out of jail free card.

THATS why people are pissed.  Anybody who wasnt a celebrity (and im sure some celebrities too) would have had to serve their time, whether they had some small illness or not (at least serve in the hospital wing if thats the case)

Got it?

Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"

First off, yes you are contradicting yourself, just saying you aren't doesn't make it different, your posts show you obviously have a bit of venom in you about the girl, just fess up to it dude, as to the other comment I know what it is, I've been around the block a few hundred times myself, and I'm glad you got a laugh there since that was what I intended   But your comment does validate one of the main points I've been trying to get across in here.

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by TimeViewer

@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train.

You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues.

We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic.

Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.

Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.

Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.

So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.

Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).

Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.

The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.

 

Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.

The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.

The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.

To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.

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@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train.

You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues.

We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic.

Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by TimeViewer

You know the whole while this has been going on all I've thought was, Who the hell cares,

All the people are sick and tired of seeing the rich and famous getting away with anything because of who they are. All the people who truly want to see Lady Justice blind folded and not biased based on fame. That's who cares.

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by TimeViewer

@olddaddy (in lieu of quoting you) you're still doing the same thing everyone else is doing, slapping her in jail just because you don't like her. As to sticking her celebrity status at everyone who did that in the first place? The media, everytime we turn around she, or the flavor of the time, is slapped all over the news. Other people have come on, done their little "I'm sorry" tour, doesn't mean they actually mean it, hell if they couldn't lie about it they wouldn't be very good actors or politicians would they?

She may need to learn a lesson but as I said before I've seen people do far worse and get off with far less, hell I see it every day. What we really need is the media to stop flashing her, and others on the TV, newspapers, radio, and internet everytime they step outside or act like an idiot, I know enough idiots without having my media flooded with more. Just look at this forum alone, how many gloating posts and threads have been made? and why? It's not real news it's just a distraction, and a poor one at best.

Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.

 

Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.

Oh, and this...

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by baff

She's not accountable to you Oldy, and much more of the world revolves around her than ever will you or I.

And if you go to the same restaurent as her, you aren't going to get first choice of table either.

 

Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.

She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.

 

Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her

Originally posted by Lanmoragon
Timeviewer do you realize she broke the law?  We dont need to feel hate for her to think she should serve her jail time.  She broke the law, several times.  Hell she even got off the hook once.  Then she goes to jail and has an "illness" that gives her a get out of jail free card.

THATS why people are pissed.  Anybody who wasnt a celebrity (and im sure some celebrities too) would have had to serve their time, whether they had some small illness or not (at least serve in the hospital wing if thats the case)

Got it?

@olddaddy (in lieu of quoting you) you're still doing the same thing everyone else is doing, slapping her in jail just because you don't like her. As to sticking her celebrity status at everyone who did that in the first place? The media, everytime we turn around she, or the flavor of the time, is slapped all over the news. Other people have come on, done their little "I'm sorry" tour, doesn't mean they actually mean it, hell if they couldn't lie about it they wouldn't be very good actors or politicians would they?

She may need to learn a lesson but as I said before I've seen people do far worse and get off with far less, hell I see it every day. What we really need is the media to stop flashing her, and others on the TV, newspapers, radio, and internet everytime they step outside or act like an idiot, I know enough idiots without having my media flooded with more. Just look at this forum alone, how many gloating posts and threads have been made? and why? It's not real news it's just a distraction, and a poor one at best.

Originally posted by ACE777

Originally posted by TimeViewer

Originally posted by ACE777
I hate Paris Hilton because she teaches young girls that being a snobby whore is "cool" and will make you rich and famous.  Good thing she is going to jail, because if she did not, it would also be teaching that being a snobby whore makes you immune to the law, and if you whine enough you get what you want.

And the sentence is NOT too tough.  It is actually fairly light considering she was driving drunk without a damned license.

And I would like to point out that white people do not have "smaller willies."  This rumor came about because white men's are somewhat more elastic, so black guys look longer when they're limp. How do I know this?

Here's a perfect example of what I was saying, ok you want her to go to jail because she's a rich snob. You also seem to think that young females are so brainless that they can be lead by Paris.... hmmm... So Paris goes to jail for being loaded and OJ goes free for murder... yeah go justice system

(Can you feel the sarcasm?)

For the record, I support the OJ decision.  It was the prosecution that blew it when they asked him to try on the gloves.

And as for young women? Yes.  I interact with these people on a daily basis that think it is totally A-Okay to be a total fucking whore because they see Paris Hilton on TV and Akon also tells them it's cool in his shitty hip-pop BS.  And the latest clothing styles are based off of what her and other little Hollywood Whores like Lindsay Lohan are wearing.

Originally posted by ACE777
I hate Paris Hilton because she teaches young girls that being a snobby whore is "cool" and will make you rich and famous.  Good thing she is going to jail, because if she did not, it would also be teaching that being a snobby whore makes you immune to the law, and if you whine enough you get what you want.

And the sentence is NOT too tough.  It is actually fairly light considering she was driving drunk without a damned license.

And I would like to point out that white people do not have "smaller willies."  This rumor came about because white men's are somewhat more elastic, so black guys look longer when they're limp. How do I know this?

Here's a perfect example of what I was saying, ok you want her to go to jail because she's a rich snob. You also seem to think that young females are so brainless that they can be lead by Paris.... hmmm... So Paris goes to jail for being loaded and OJ goes free for murder... yeah go justice system

(Can you feel the sarcasm?)