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Agent_X7	Tiered pricing, and ticketed events. General Discussion « Hero's Journey 7/09/06 9:21:21 AM Originally posted by Morneblade Originally posted by Sylvado A few points and a few questions. Simutronics is a business. The purpose of a business is to make money. Never trust anyone that offers you a product or service and claims that it it for any reason other than making money. Most products and services are offered on a tiered system. True. However MMORPGs do not. HJ would be the first. Questions: 1. Why should gaming companies be held to a different standard than other? You will pay more for better or more features on meals, hotels, airfare, television, telephone, automobiles, homes, apartments, education etc. , why not games? Competition. RTS games are basically all the same, slightly different features, art, ect, but still very similar. Same with RPG's, Stratagy games, ect. You buy any new PC game look to pay about $50 no mater what genre it is. Then you get to MMO's if it is a older game. $10 a month, period. If it is a newer game $15 a month, period. THAT is the MMO market, and on a larger scope the PC and concole game market. Tiered pricing takes you above that market, with no decernable featuers to support it. 2. If HJ offers a little more than other games do at the base rate, why would you not play because they offer even more for a larger fee? What are they offering more of? Fun? That is subjective, for everyone it will be different. However when you look at some of the things that will NOT be in HJ (like crafting, a huge aspect of MMO's in general ) you can make a very good argument that they offer LESS than othere MMO's. There have been absolutly NO features mentioned in HJ that are not in other MMO's for their single price. Then there is the whole "perception" thing. Some and maybe many gamers would see this kind of thing as Simu being a bunch of "money grubbers". Not a good thing, but you might be able to get away with it if you are say, SOE. Probably not so much if you are a small company trying to break into the MMO scene. I think they would actually loose revenue from tiered pricing, not gain it. Just to clarify something: HJ would NOT be the first MMO to offer tiered service. To my knowledge, Everquest, EQII, and a few others have already done this. Everquest started with its $50 a month service level a long time ago, and EQII has several pricing options as well. HJ having tiered pricing probably wouldn't really affect them one way or the other, since the world didn't end when other games tried it.

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Tiered pricing, and ticketed events.
General Discussion « Hero's Journey

7/09/06 9:21:21 AM

Originally posted by Morneblade

Originally posted by Sylvado

A few points and a few questions.

Simutronics is a business. The purpose of a business is to make money. Never trust anyone that offers you a product or service and claims that it it for any reason other than making money.

Most products and services are offered on a tiered system.

True. However MMORPGs do not. HJ would be the first.

Questions:

1. Why should gaming companies be held to a different standard than other? You will pay more for better or more features on meals, hotels, airfare, television, telephone, automobiles, homes, apartments, education etc. , why not games?

Competition. RTS games are basically all the same, slightly different features, art, ect, but still very similar. Same with RPG's, Stratagy games, ect. You buy any new PC game look to pay about $50 no mater what genre it is. Then you get to MMO's if it is a older game. $10 a month, period. If it is a newer game $15 a month, period. THAT is the MMO market, and on a larger scope the PC and concole game market. Tiered pricing takes you above that market, with no decernable featuers to support it.

2. If HJ offers a little more than other games do at the base rate, why would you not play because they offer even more for a larger fee?

What are they offering more of? Fun? That is subjective, for everyone it will be different. However when you look at some of the things that will NOT be in HJ (like crafting, a huge aspect of MMO's in general ) you can make a very good argument that they offer LESS than othere MMO's. There have been absolutly NO features mentioned in HJ that are not in other MMO's for their single price.

Then there is the whole "perception" thing. Some and maybe many gamers would see this kind of thing as Simu being a bunch of "money grubbers". Not a good thing, but you might be able to get away with it if you are say, SOE. Probably not so much if you are a small company trying to break into the MMO scene. I think they would actually loose revenue from tiered pricing, not gain it.

Just to clarify something: HJ would NOT be the first MMO to offer tiered service. To my knowledge, Everquest, EQII, and a few others have already done this. Everquest started with its $50 a month service level a long time ago, and EQII has several pricing options as well. HJ having tiered pricing probably wouldn't really affect them one way or the other, since the world didn't end when other games tried it.

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