Originally posted by Nivisiru

I only really cared about it cause it was Simu. So if its not evne them anymore... meh

Well, this is twice they failed to bring this game to market, so I figure it's time to give someone else a chance.

Contrary to popular opinion, nobody official has declared HJ dead. In fact, Simu doesn't even anythign to do with this now, as a new company bought the engine and assests.

At the new forums, a HeroEngine employee has this to say to us:

"HeroEngine and Hero's Journey are now owned by Idea Fabrik Plc."

"Dead?  Who said?

New company, new forum!

We'll pass along more info as we're able"

As a matter of fact, I am logged into a HeroEngine cloud server right now, playing with HJ assests.

Check it out: http://www.heroengine.com/

Originally posted by marzatplay

I'm going to have to settle for regular edition, can't find any collector's editions pre-orders in any store.

They all stopped selling them last month.

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Originally posted by Distaste

Originally posted by BRYANBARTLEY

alright so just leave us in the dust with 50kb d/l speeds while you enjoy playing your beta?

You can't play today if you have the client or not. And I would be willing to bet you won't be playing until all CE invites are out to be fair to all CE orders. It would REALLY irk people to have a CE preorder and not have an invite yet while other CE preorders are already playing.

50 kb isn't bad at all! Take you what? 2-3 days? Do some configuring and you can increase that speed. People who get low torrent speeds are subject to 3 issues. 1. ISP traffic shaping 2. Setting up the torrent program wrong 3. Port forwarding. Any of these are easily researched on google/youtube. Did you increase your connections? turn on encryption? Port forward? reduce upload speed to 50%-75% of max to not kill download speeds? If your ISP shapes your traffic you have to wait for off peak hours.

CE closed beta isn't up yet so you have plenty of time and they gave you all the pertinent info. Download the client but servers aren't up yet.

Why would Mythic use torrents? Well lots of data for a client, lots of people that need that data, and lots of bendwidth needed. Using the patcher(if its DDL) thing draws more bandwidth from Mythic and may cause issues for them. I wouldn't reccomend that until they say its okay.

Don't know about you sport, but I have better things to do with my bandwidth than sit around waiting for WAR to DL. The faster it's DLed, the faster I can get back to doing other bandwidth intensive tasks.
 

Originally posted by Lethality

This will allow you to mostly bypass the torrent and instead patch from the patcher:

 

1) Download Best Download Manager - FlashGet Flashget.

2) Download or open your beta torrent with it

3) It'll prompt you to download individual files from the torrent, download all the warpatch or "patch" related files- you can't miss them. They're fairly small.

4) Download these to a folder then run Warpatch.exe and you will be good to go providing you have made sure your beta account exists.

 

 

Heh, I had started DLing last night from Torrent. Saw your suggestion and popped open my download folder, clicked the patcher.

You deserve a beer!

Originally posted by Wrayeth

 

Originally posted by Agent_X7

 

 

I think you actually missed the point, and then claimed it wasn't there. The point is this: Certain communities of people descend on this site every time their pet game is up for some sort of award. They aren't really readers, because they never come here other than to vote for their game.

I can't speak for other EVE players, but I've been visiting this site regularly for years, even if I don't post much.  I regularly read the features if the title in any way interests me, and occasionally post if I find something I feel strongly enough about to respond.

 

Please watch your sweeping gneralizations - such statements often come around to bite you in the ass when you least expect it.

I don't need to watch my anything, since I have seen the posts on the Eve forums in years past about coming here to register and vote for Eve. (I've seen it in other forums as well, it's not just Eve players)

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

Originally posted by Roin

You can always count on the eve-online fans here.  To make sure that their game is always #1 in anything it's nominated in.  Just like last year.  I already knew what the results were before they were posted.

OH NOES!

 

 

A readers choice award was "Riged" by....The readers?!!SHIFT1 How could this happen!!!! Who let those bastards "The readers" vote? My god, I feel for humanity!!!1! Its not like the opinions of the voters matter in a readers choice!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Readers of this site voted man, theres no two ways about it. Your comment is byond pointless. lol.

I think you actually missed the point, and then claimed it wasn't there. The point is this: Certain communities of people descend on this site every time their pet game is up for some sort of award. They aren't really readers, because they never come here other than to vote for their game.

Originally posted by candygirl6

 

 

Originally posted by Elikal

I havent played the expansion, so I dont know who is right about GWEN. What I DO see however is, people who disagree start to attack the auhor. Quite a disqualifying way to comment on something you do not agree with. It's so poor to berate someone about his writing style and play expert. But apparently arrogance has become trendy. Watched the same parrents of reaction to critic in too many game forums these days, alas. Maybe the reviewer is wrong, I dunno, but even IF thats now reason to attack him/her personally as unable to write! PA THE TIC!

And the review wasn't attacking guild wars and even their players?? Did you read it??

 

-So it's OK to attack a game that took months of people to develop, months of designers, gameplay, artwork etc....and their players....

-But it's NOT ok to attack a rewiever who spend half an hour writing up a lousy review.

This review blows. It's totally unobjective, nor is it an entertaining read, it's a burn on a game instead of a review. It sux and it's unprofessional, he deserved these responses. Was a pathetic attempt at a review. End of story.

It's OK, as a writer I am used to the hysterical rantings of forum posters. (Or as Dan Fortier calls them, Forum Terrorists, I term I wish I had coined.) Regardless of what I write, there will be people that do not agree, and cannot express their disagreement without resorting to name calling or other childish outbursts. It's universal, it's age-old, and it's actually entertaining for us to read, sometimes. (Well, those of us who can keep a level head about it.)

Originally posted by knives22

I didn't know you guys had high schoolers in your staff.

But seriously, that was probably one of the most poorly written reviews I have read in a while.

Originally posted by HJ-Diviana

 

Originally posted by Kenorv

 

Originally posted by Kenorv

 

 I'd have much more respect for  a company that it honest with it's customers than one that hides things from them.

Stuff like that makes a company look unprofessional and gives a bad impression to potential customers.

 It may be a cliche but honesty really is the best policy and Simu hasn't been honest with their customers.

 

Go look up the definition of potential. I clearly said potential customers.

 

Not to nitpick or anything...

Hey, you know what they say: When logic fails, toss insults or nitpick.

Real quick like:

If you want to crank out some high end graphics in MMORPGs, go for a newer video card with 512+ MB of RAM.

Originally posted by daelnor

You're in cali?

D.

New York.

Originally posted by Bloodgloom

 

 

Let's talk about why Mr. Fortier's review sucks. For starters, he ran a one week long vote on a website that isn't exactly allakhazam. One week isn't nearly long enough for nominated game communities to hear about the poll and to get an opinion from more than a few different people.

 

Um, no. That's why our Reader's Choice Awards are so screwed up every year, because tons of people who never visit this site at any other time desend upon us and cast their votes for the game they are playing. Just because the Eve online community can get everyone that plays the game to vote here doesn't mean it really deserves to win. It just means they are more fanatical about making sure their game wins.

Newegg always has everything I want at a lower price than everywhere else.

Newegg has a major shipping center close to my house, so all those "3 day shipping" options are really free overnight shipping for me.

Originally posted by Archaos

 

Originally posted by SpectralHunt

 

Well to be fair there have been numerous MMOs that went under but the devs repeatedly said the game is doing well and development is going well.  Gods & Heroes is one example.  Heck, even Sigil said Vanguard is doing fine when it launched. 

 

Why would officials lie or twist the truth?  Because they don't want to ruin the game if it has a chance to launch.  I suppose every game has a "chance."  But let's face it, in reality either a game is being financed and worked on at full speed or it is dying.

As for volunteers, you think they don't have a vested interest in the game?  If the game launches and their work stands out, they have an opportunity to get into the gaming industry.  They wouldn't sabotage the very door they are trying to enter and will say whatever they are told to say or not say.

But the facts are, HJ has been in development way too long.  It's worked on by volunteers which is a terrible way to build your product.  And Simu has a track record of taking forever (sometimes never) in development of their other games.

I suppose I still have hope HJ will launch but it's a very small hope at this time.  And yeah, I'm still hoping on Duke Nukem Forever...

 

Unpaid volunteers don't work forever. There have been volunteers that have moved on after working on HJ. If the game was dying, don't you think that you would've heard something about it? Doesn't the fact that there has been absolutely nothing like that leaked mean anything? A volunteer can use their time at HJ on a resume, whether or not the game is released.

 

 

Originally posted by Kenorv

I think that Simu got in over their heads with HJ and aren't willing to admit that they got in over their heads. Silence is better than admitting mistakes I guess. Why else would they suddenly go quiet when they halted work on the game and focused all of their resources on the game engine so they could license it? If they had been honest with us about that instead of keeping us in the dark then it probably would have made them look like they weren't prepared for this project. So they just told us nothing for several months and hoped that we wouldn't lose interest in the game.

Personally that's not the way I think a company should do business. I think they should be honest with their potential customers about any delays, hiccups etc. I'd have much more respect for  a company that it honest with it's customers than one that hides things from them.

It's obvious that having your entire staff work on the game or the engine or whatever it is they're working on at the moment, isn't going to get the game finished and launched any time soon so why not take one person off the project just one day per month and have that person work on updating the website, so at the very least, what little info you do post there is accurate. There's no reason for that F.A.Q. to be out dated. Stuff like that makes a company look unprofessional and gives a bad impression to potential customers. If you think that all you need to do is make a good game to attract and keep customers then you're dead wrong. Customer service and public relations are just as important and those things start long before the game launches. If you neglect those aspects of business(and Simu certainly has) then you're setting yourself up for failure.

Again, I think that Simu got in over their heads with a lack of financing at the start and even now a lack of full time, on site staff. If you only have enough people to focus on one thing then you're not going to be successful. But keeping quiet about your problems and hoping that customers will forget about them is even worse. It may be a cliche but honesty really is the best policy and Simu hasn't been honest with their customers.

 

HJ has a full-time on-site staff. It's not a big company with a big PR firm, but who cares? Yes, the faq is outdated. Does that mean anything? Well, according to you it does, but to me it just means that they have a smaller team than most giant budgeted companies, and are prioritizing.

You go from saying that you think Simu got in over their heads (with no evidence aside from a lack of PR), and then you end with, "But keeping quiet about your problems and hoping that customers will forget about them is even worse. It may be a cliche but honesty really is the best policy and Simu hasn't been honest with their customers." Woah, there. Where did that come from? What are these problems, and when has Simu ever been dishonest with its customers (regarding HJ)? Are you referring to tentative release dates? Is missing one, lying? I'm confused how you came to this conclusion.

Simu hasn't been honest with their customers!

Of course, they have no Hero's Journey customers, since the game hasn't been released and nobody has, in fact, paid a dime for it.

People are just impatient and silly.

Decent gaming laptop for around $1500? Hey, didn't someone here just write a review on something like that? Oh yeah, that was me.

Originally posted by daelnor

 

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Originally posted by Agent_X7
For under $200? Good luck. Most L-desks under $200 either don't have enough room, or they are complete piles of poo. I gave up and modified a Z-line desk. The glass and steel was nice, but the keyboard tray was tiny, so I replaced it with one I built. Now the "tray" has built in cup holder, room for an oversized Merc keyboard, and plenty of room for my huge mousepad.

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You should quit your dayjob and build desks for gamers. Unless that is your dayjob. In that case, good on ya!

D.

Heh, I wish.

Worst Graphics:

LotRO (kidding) - I can't think of a game that I can really bag the graphics on. Pass.

Least Fun:

Vanguard: SOH

Most Desolate:

EQII - Hello? Is there anybody in there? just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone home?

Worst Use of Popular IP or License:

Star Wars Galaxies

Lamest Launch:

Vanguard: SOH

Most Likely to be Cancelled in 2008:

Fury - Free already, huh?

Biggest Stinker:

Sword of the New World - Ah, imported Asian grinder which plays itself. Very nice. You like duck sauce with that?

For under $200? Good luck. Most L-desks under $200 either don't have enough room, or they are complete piles of poo. I gave up and modified a Z-line desk. The glass and steel was nice, but the keyboard tray was tiny, so I replaced it with one I built. Now the "tray" has built in cup holder, room for an oversized Merc keyboard, and plenty of room for my huge mousepad.