i agree,

That's why i was so hard to quit runescape as well and why so manny get an addiction.

I quitted 4 times for more then 2 months and started over again because people asked my to come play again and help them out. I gave away my char the third time, she asked me to play on it again I played 2 more months. Alched 3 purple P-hats and quitted for more then 6 months now. So yes it's friends that make the game fun and keep you playing. But when you remove your pixels you see how time consuming and what a waste of time it is; And you probebly won't start over again.

first of all i want to add that I've quitted runescape for about  half a year now and that mostpeople complaining here were probebly low level. (Maybe that's why they got called noob)

Someone posted you can't make profit on grand exchange: WRONG: there are special channels ingame and on IRC where people come together to actually make price agreements. They mass buy one certain item so prices go up extremely fast. And they make an agreement to sell the item when it reaches a certain value. If you want to spend time folowing it, you can double your cash in a week easily. This is the most efficient way there is and there probebly ever will be. (And yes it's not very nice because rich people get richer and poor people have to pay more for they crappy items but oh well that's life isn't it?)

Secondly yes firemaking is boring and useless if you just buylogs and burn them. If you are actually high level you can turn this skill into pure cash. Some monsters (e.g. Mithril dragons) drop bones that if you burn them might giveyou a dragon full helmet. And aren't all games a waste of time? I used to play and do skills like firemaking while calling friends over skype or having fun on the teamspeak clan channel. Or when i was waiting for the rest of my clan to start PK-ing.

Someone else mentioned that the farming skill is boring. Well i have to admit when the skill got released I really tought who's crazy, idiots idea is this. But while farming being in the game and starting to train it i realized this was actually a wonderfull skill to keep the game in balance. Skills like herblore where getting to expensive to train and the potions where getting expensive to actually use all day. I saw a lot of less rich clanmembers trining without potions before farming got released. Besides that farming is an easy skill to level up you don't have to wait one hour for the compost to be readdy... You can start makign in on all the spots on the map and then go training combat /slayer skills or do something else. After you finished you check the compost spots again and you gained the experience for doing nothing? Compost is rather slow experience but when you use allf arming patches you could easily in 30 minutes - 1 hour (spread over a day) get 100K farming experience. Witch makes farming one of the quickest skills to level. (If you check your paths on a regular basis) One last thing about farming is that in my opion it is a pretty unique skill in the large list of MMORPG's.

Another thing i read here is that it is a long way walking all the time. I can not agree with that as well. There are teleports to nearly anny place on the worldmap. If you make effectivly use of the different magic spellbooks, jewelery and special teleport items you can get to anny place within 3 minutes at anny time. I don't know manny MMORPG's where you can travel that quick and where there is no timelock for the teleports.

And the last thing abot quests in the wilderness: Runescape has always been overprotecting players in my opnion you can only attack levels within a certain range. And there are nearly no quests in high level wilderness. And you have an option to use teleport in low wilderness. (i have to admin players will call you "tele noob" or "teletubie" if you do but oh well, let those litle kids cry because thay wasted some precious runes again and they failed tokill someone.

i've played wow after i quitted runescape and this is my opinion about it:

I got referred by a friend so i was able to level up at double speed till level 60 (took me 3 days, result i was lvl 60 and i knew nearly nothing about the game but I wanted to keepleveling (i guess i got that from runescape) so I bought the first and second expension set. And 2 weeks later i was level80. I couldn't believe i was max level in such a short period of time.

Secondly for wow I was playing on Al A'kir witch was down like every day because of to manny people and server crashes. (I have to admit i started playing a week before WotLK came out so I guess that's why.) I had recruited some of my friends toplay wow as well and they said Al A' Kir was to laggy so i had to start over again with them on veknilash. (this would not happen on runescape there you can use your account on anny server you like). So i decided to put my warlock away and start with a new paladin. Paladins were then pretty overpowered together with the death knights so I started to train i realised training a paladin at the early levels isn't very funny so I started to like th egame less and less. Also secondly the only way to quickly level in wow is to actually Qest all the time. And those quests are aalways the same... GRIND, GRIND, GRIND,... (No special clues you have to use your brains for, no puzles to solve, just grinding.) So with about 2 months membership left i quitted wow, raids were fun but if you can only do them once a week what's the point? You clear them all in 2 days and what are you supposed to do the next 5? Except for doing batlegrounds or getting reputation for factions( =GRIND,GRIND AND MORE GRINDING)?

Ow and one last thing, if you say firemaking in runescape is borng what about fishing in wow?

So now i've quitted both but I have to say I enjoyed playing runescape way more then playing WOW.

But that being said play the game you think is most fun and everyone can have his opinion.

Cheers

TYXL

I have played runescape for 3-4 years (with some breaks between).

Some old school runescape players may know me as TYXL_BE. (I used to be ranked top 1000)

I' ve enjoyed this game a lot back at the old days. But now with the trade limit and the wilderness being removed I think it's time to find a new game. (i've quitted just before they removed the wildy and just after the grand exchange update).

The last mayor update i really liked was the godwars dungeon.

But i got irritated by all the "noob"-updates and quests they brought into the game.

My overall review:(you 'll notice i like to compare with wow)

I loved the veriety of skills. 20+ skills that you can train all to the limit was really awesome for an MMORPG. (even most of  them or even all of them are grinding, it felt different and you could switch between them. In my opion is silkroad or archlord much more grinding and boring then runescape.

Secondly the graphics are really terrible but i liked the lwo detail still more at the end then the new high detail with better graphics. The gameplay just seemed to be more fun...

Quests are also one of the things runescape is on top of ALL MMORPG's (especially for beginners and low levels). You can't level op from lvl 3 to 126 with just doing quests like yuo can in other games like WOW. But the quests offer a nice guide through the HUGE map of runescape. A lot fo WOW fans will probebly tell me WOW has a really huge world. But oh well you can get from 1 to 80 in 2 weeks and you have seen all of it (except the raids). Runescape will take much longer to explore the full area, find more efficient techniques to level up, and the leveling up itself is also much slower ... Getting like 1 skill to 99 (out of the 20+ skills) will probebly take longer then getting lvl 80 in wow twice. And yes in wow you have reputation to gain if you really want to have a crazy character but in runescape you can just train a different skill with will acually improve your character and in witch you can compete with other players.

Finally i think the PK-ing system was much more team based then the raiding system is in WOW. Anny1 can jon your team they don't have to be a healer or a good tank. Everyone is welcome and a help, the moreplayers the more chance you actually gone kick ass! I like that way of teamplay and the way of how you can transform your character in just a minute from archer to magicien to melee is really enjoyable. Always being a healer or tank (in wow) or always a ranger or mage (in runescape) is /would be boring in my opion. But in runescape you go to the bank change your gear and let's go :) you can play the "class you like" in wow when you are boredplaying your class yuo have to create a new one, make your friends add your new char, etc...

That's why most wow players have morethen 1 char, and i like it more to just have 1 on witch you can benefit from all your hours of addictive gaming (yes, like all MMORPG's it's very time consuming).

The worst part in runescape (before pking got removed) is the melee and ranged combat system, they made the magic-based combat system actually more then just clicking your oponent and hope you win. But instead of removing the wilderness they better had improved the melee and ranged combat system. (yes you have special attacks but thoseare weapon bound and very limited becaus of the slow recharge)

bad things about runescape:

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- graphics

- melee/ranged combat system

- they removed the fackign wilderness

- new trade system

- skills get a litle boring at high levels ( it's always the same and takes 20+ houres to get one lvl)

good things about runescape:

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+ A lot of skills to train (witch make the game less boring)

+ A nice questing system (especially for beginners), and clues (some kind of mini quests with may lead to special items)to keep higher levels bussy

+ You can play it on anny computer with internet connection

+ A lot of content / A huge area to explore

+ Back in the days: a great PK-ing system

+ New content released often

So far my "short" review about the game ;)

PS: sorry for the spellingmistakes :p

cheers

TYXL