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Originally posted by turinmacleod

What did you think of the Freedom Force games? I have always wondered why no one took the next step with those games, and developed an MMOARPG  out of the IP.

 

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Cool game, but not a huge fan of the setting. Too corny/campy. Another reason why Champions Online turns me off.

There are more than enough existing threads to discuss this topic in. :)
Originally posted by Iselin

Looks like a case of "run it up the flagpole and see if it flies." Apparently the reaction they got and the (lack of) hits on the site told the suits everything they needed to know. Smells of a new suit trying to establish a reputation for being decisive. 

 

Still, the short time line between reveal and cancel is pretty weird.

It really was. I definitely got the sense the game wasn't getting enough buzz. Sad, though. It was really fun to play!

Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Last thread on this topic was deleted, think this one will as well

This was an accident. This thread won't be deleted.

Originally posted by Foomerang

If someone quotes a person you have blocked, will I still see their post? That's how it is now and I wish it wasn't like that.
Thanks

Also, viewing this site on my phone always forces to mobile version no matter my phone settings. Will that be a thing of the past?

Unsure on the ignore functionality. Will have to look into it.

Looks like it's forced for the mobile right now, unsure if we can add a switch to full site for the forums, but I don't see why you'd want to. The mobile experience will be vastly improved.

Originally posted by Ecoces
no reaction system needed if someone needs to tell you that they liked or LOLed at your post ... they can post a reply.

They aren't mutually exclusive. Do both! :)

Originally posted by Hulluck

DARK THEME PLEASE.

We'll have a dark theme, don't worry. And there's no downvoting involved at all. I've mentioned this numerous times already. :)

 

Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by MikeB

Please offer feedback/discuss the 'Reactions' system coming with our new forums here.

Refer to my post here for details on our particular implementation.

What benefit does this new system give me as a visitor?

What benefit does it give to mmorpg.com?

What benefit does it give to your customers (By customers, I mean your advertisers)?

Please explain this.  I want more information before I can see a positive value to me.  It is something that a negative.  What do you hope to achieve with such a system?

It's really quite simple -- we think it will be fun. We're looking to grow our community and we feel the gamification features Vanilla offers are a great way to get people involved and rewarding each other for posting awesome content.

Advertisers aren't remotely a concern of mine. It has nothing to do with advertisers.

Originally posted by Vrika
Originally posted by MikeB

And here's random post from the MH forums where you can see the Reactions bar in action.

Hope that helps!

Would you please so kind and point out, what part of that webpage is supposed to be a Reactions bar?

 

Ah, looks like you need to be signed in to see it there.  Try here.

Originally posted by Superman0X
Originally posted by MikeB

Please offer feedback/discuss the 'Reactions' system coming with our new forums here.

Refer to my post here for details on our particular implementation.

Mike,

 

You have stated that you are not going to have a like/dislike system, but instead are going to have a 'reactions' system. However, the information provided on this system is not sufficient to determine how it would work (or work differently than a like/dislike with different names).

 

You have stated that it is similar to the Marvel Heros forums, but many of us do not frequent those forums, and as such do not understand how this system works.

 

As I understand it from your referenced link, each post (or thread?) can be given the following reactions: Insightful, Agree, Awesome,  LOL. Those reactions would then be aggregated under the user profiles, and used to weekly leaderboards. Does this have any visible effect on  the thread/post? Or is it just a user rating?

 

The intent of the reactions system is to replace the current star system (post count). This isn't intended to change how people find the threads/posts that are of interest to them (correct?)

Each reaction gives you a point which counts towards your rank and towards the leaderboards (example). There are also badges associated with each reaction (e.g. earn a badge for receiving 25 Awesomes).

And yes, you're correct, it has nothing to do with finding threads or posts.  You can learn more about Reactions here.

And here's random post from the MH forums where you can see the Reactions bar in action.

Hope that helps!

Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by DMKano
My source at Bioware Austin confirms this 100%. EA has pulled all funding and killed the project. Since I can't back this up with any proof and I don't want to get this locked or deleted - I must put the obligatory "unsubstantiated rumor" clause on my post until this becomes official

With your stamp on this, I believe it's more than rumor. ;)

LOL.

That said, I hope this isn't true. :( I really enjoyed the game at PAX Prime last year.

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Good then, the linked post in the OP mentions it though.

The linked post mentions experimenting with giving you guys peer moderation capability through an "off topic" reaction. If a post within a thread is issued enough "off topic" reactions, it will bury that post. This would allow the community to determine for itself if it feels a discussion is being derailed by other users, without us having to step in and clean it all up. Of course, this could be abused, which is why it's not currently in the plans, but it might be something we experiment with. Keep in mind, we can see who are issuing these reactions, so we could take disciplinary action against users who are abusing the reaction. We could also limit its use to higher ranked users.

Would it be worth it in the end? Maybe. Maybe not. But I wanted to float the idea to hear what you guys had to say on it. Off Topic is not on the list of Reactions currently planned to go live with the new forums. It's just an idea for now.

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Specific type of posters will gang on specific threads if you make them able to bury them.

This will be so abused it's not even funny.

You're in the business for too long to ignore how far trolls and other bored people can go to disrupt a forum.

They can't bury them. We aren't using any of that functionality.

Originally posted by Iselin

As I've said a couple f times already, without a dislike, the LOL option will be used as the dislike surrogate just like it currently is in the Vanilla forum I frequent, ESO's.

And no, I don't want a dislike either. 

Thing is, they're helping whoever they give a LOL rank up, earn points for the leaderboards, and acquire badges. Again, like anything else, if it becomes problematic, it's as simple as clicking a button for me to turn it off. :)

OK. Well, doesn't look like anyone is reading my posts. :) We are not considering Like/Dislike. Since that isn't even on the table, I am going to lock this thread. I've opened up a new thread where you can offer feedback and discuss the upcoming Reactions system, but, again, there will NOT be a Like/Dislike Reaction in our implementation.

We are going to use: Agree, Insightful, LOL, Awesome.

We are considering "Off Topic" to allow you guys some level of peer moderation to deal with thread derails. Feel free to discuss this idea in the new thread.

Please offer feedback/discuss the 'Reactions' system coming with our new forums here.

Refer to my post here for details on our particular implementation.

Originally posted by Scot

As you may have guessed my idea of fine tuning it would be to turn the reaction system off. Peer moderation as you have obviously realised is throwing the forums to the wind and hoping they have a good landing, I imagine that would end up causing you guys more work, not less.

You mentioned derailing of threads. Allow me to be a dinosaur here and note that you can just start your post by saying the last one was a derail or just ignoring it and getting back to the topic. I think that's more immediate than a vote. If you have any part of the system that allows us to bury posts that is a recipe for forum wars.

Clearly the moderators have bought into this system. Please have a think about the language used and what that says about where you are taking the forums.

"Not all members are created equal." Yes they are and that's how they should remain, a failr playing filed not some elitist pyramid.

"Reactions are basically a system of positive reinforcement." We are not Pavlov's dogs, so I don't think that's a good a thing as you seem to think it is.

I know some may think I am overacting, but we treasure these forums and you do seem to have bought into the idea that anything new, anything Facebook is doing, can only make the forums better. That is not the case.

Having said that, I have always found the moderators to have their heads screwed on. So I can only hope that when this comes online you will realise most of us don't want it, as the poll shows.

I can tell you the reaction system won't be turned off. We are pretty excited about it and believe it will be a great overall addition. That isn't to say I don't understand your concerns, but many communities out there use Vanilla's Reactions and they are doing quite all right. It's all about implementation, and we are generally staying away from negative reactions. Your poll refers to "Like/Dislike", which we are not even considering doing.

As for derailing, users currently report for off-topic and moderators do handle this all the time. Giving you guys the power would allow you to determine what is OK at least along the lines of the off-topic rule. I'm in favor of doing this, but again, I am apprehensive due to potential for abuse. We may try it out and see how it goes. No real harm in doing so as we can always turn it off.

All users will be created equal, by the way. We have full control over what ranks and roles grant a user. Current plans are for all users but new users to be identical, with new users to have some limitations on posting new threads and such to curb spam.

No need to vote yes/no. We won't be using "Like/Dislike". I've explained what we are actually doing in an above post.  Reactions will only affect your leaderboard ranking, user rank, and badges earned. The only thing we might really try is the Off Topic reaction I explained in the aforementioned post.

 

Originally posted by Pepeq
I heard that because it's a new forum and all, everyone's post count and join date will be reset because they will be making everyone create a new account to clean out all the dead accounts.

We are migrating data. You will not need to create a new account, etc.

Originally posted by Ilaya

I voted "YES" because i like that/these features. I wish it would be like the forums over at Marvel Heroes. They also have an "Insightful" - "Disagree" button and so forth. I think that a simple dislike would be wrong, but the before mentioned additions, would be very helpful.

 

I just remember the TESO B2P threads from Kano and many others (other Threads with Infos spread) where an "Insightful" Button would have ""helped"" much. But perhaps that's just me.

So yeah, bring it on. 

Things will be essentially identical to the Marvel Heroes forums (same software), with the exception that I am very strongly leaning against implementing the Disagree reaction. If we do end up using it, it would be merely as an experiment and we can turn it off at any time. Currently on our development site we have Disagree disabled.

One negative reaction I would love to use is to give the community a bit of peer moderation capabilities is the Off Topic reaction (enough of these will bury a post). Currently, this is something our moderators handle, but I've heard requests from users for some level of peer moderation. Unfortunately, I think this reaction would be abused, but again, it's something we can try and easily disable if it doesn't work out.  Aside from direct rule violations, off-topic posts are probably the most common issue we see here and they can really derail great threads. Most post deletions that confuse users here are the result of moderators cleaning out a chain of off-topic posts from a thread. Putting the power in your hands to decide on this vs. ours is something I'd love to do, but again, I'm apprehensive of abuse. 

What we currently have enabled on the dev forums and what will for sure be going live with on the new forums include: Insightful, Agree, Awesome, and LOL reactions. 

For anyone unfamiliar with the reaction system, reactions are basically a system of positive reinforcement (at least in terms of how we intend to implement them). Reactions earn you points that are tallied up on an all time and weekly leaderboard (example). Points also earn you ranks (replacing the current star system) and badges, which are collected and displayed on your profile page (example).

In any case, I wouldn't worry too much about the Reactions system. As I've said multiple times in this response, we can experiment with it all and find what works best for our community. It's a modular system that is easy to fine tune.

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