Originally posted by randomized

The uninstaller left over 200MB of files behind so I posted a message in the forum and only used fairly minor profanity like cr*p.

When I went back to check for responses, the thread was gone. Maybe justifiable based on language but i've seen a lot worse there often.

I posted another thread about censorship and it was gone within seconds.

Any game that needs that level of agressive forum censoring is definately in trouble.

Uninstallers generally only delete files that were installed at the time of the original installation. Those 200MB were probably files that had changed since, your setup files and screenshots and such things. Having said that, 200MB is hardly a big deal. That's less than you transfer in a single picture from your camera - unless you're using a piddling little hard drive you won't even notice it.

As for forum censorship - it's their forum, they can do what they want.

Support for some of the older peripherals has gone. No way to get an old scanner I had working...but then that never worked under Vista either. Apart from that and a network driver issue that neither MS or Realtek seem able to sort out, I've had no problems. Setting up was easier than any earlier version of Windows and everything, apart from the old scanner and the network card whch has to be reset every time I start the machine, has worked perfectly from day one.

Takes a bit of getting used to after XP but those people saying you should wait for at least a year before getting it so the problems can be ironed out are conveniently forgetting that it has already been out in the wild being tested by thousands of people for *ages*.

I don't regret changing to Windows 7.

Originally posted by KittyChow

Originally posted by riceae02

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 I'm off to Champions Online and so far I like it ... spent 2 hours just designing my character. If you like CoH/V you;ll like Champions as well.

 I totally disagree with your last statement. I play CoH and have been for the past 2 years. Then I tried CO and hated it. Then most of my friends played CO and hated it. That's a game I won't waste my money on.

Well, we're all different and we enjoy different things. I grew bored of CoX after five years and I'm now enjoying playing CO. takes some getting used to after CoX but, for me at least, it was worth  the effort.

Originally posted by lordoffiling

OK, well, it might be a good idea to do some fact-checking before you turn these things in, reviewer. You can retcon from level 40 all the way back to genesis now, it's been this way for a while.

So much for "boneheaded mistakes."

Still not affordable though is it? Unless you've been using one of the gold sellers that have inevitably cropped up in the game.

From Daeke: So please, hop into the game and play for a while so that we can get the hard evidence for our next step.

Nice idea, except of course people whose toons were badly affected by this couldn't hop onto the game and play it because the second they stuck their now defenceless head out of the door, a newly heavily buffed enemy lopped it off with a single swipe. My only option was to delete and start over. It rendered the early start completely wasted. And they're not done yet, there are more nerfs coming.

I haven't yet decided if it's best to avoid levelling toons to high levels for now so they can be deleted without too much time wasted or just go for it and hope they fix the respec system so it's affordable.

Originally posted by t0nyd

 I dont expect any kind of reparations. I would just like Cryptic to not down the website when the server crashes. This way they can keep us informed as to whats going on. I dont think the fact that when the server crashes, they bring the website down, is any kind of coincedince

I was wondering about that too. When the forums have been available they've been really slow but I've seen the website go down at about the same time as the game enough times to make me think they may have all their eggs in one pretty flakey basket at the moment.

Originally posted by Sevenwind

Ahhh it puts it in your inventory!

This happens when you do your first crafting thing as well. Things just mysteriously appear in your inventory and you need to click on them to progress the quest. All pretty confusing and unnecessary in my opinion.

Originally posted by bstripp

These adds were very clear.  You have until Sept 1st to purchase one of these special offers.  There was no mention on quantifties or that the offer might be rescinded at any time other than the Sept 1st date. 

I'm pretty sure that on their original advert on their website they did mention (or at least imply) they had limited numbers available. They failed to include that in the numerous emails they sent out or follow it up properly later. I think it was more a communications issue than a deliberate attempt to deceive people. Someone obviously knew but failed to tell the billing people who seemed as surprised as the rest of us when it was suddenly cut off.

Cryptic really do need to work on their communications...

Originally posted by grndzro

They are nerfing anything that remotely stands out as decent above others.

How can they be nerfing things? The game hasn't even been released yet! The whole point of a beta is to obtain enough data to get a good idea of the best compromise between easy quick levelling and boring grind.

Originally posted by Korgana

Sorry you could not read but it always said "Limited Supply".

It said limited supply on the initial article on the CO  website. They didn't mention it in any of the followup emails they sent out, which is where a lot of people would have been getting their information. I managed to get a lifetime sub but I feel for the people who really wanted one and missed out. Since the end of the month was the cutoff date, a lot of people were waiting till then - pay day you know!

At the end of the day though, it's only a game. There are far more important things to feel outraged about if you look hard enough...

Originally posted by Manchine

Feels like a MMO to me.

Certainly does now after the massive exp nerf and mob strength boost in the latest patch. Minion type mobs far below your level now do so much damage that two of them can put a player two levels above them down with ease, if you do manage to defeat them the exp you get is pathetic. We're now being out-levelled by quests in every stage of the game because they nerfed the quest exp as well. Desperately hoping they see sense before release and restore some of the exp and reduce the strength of the mobs to more reasonable levels.

Originally posted by Nightbringe1

You are right, it is not launch.

It is the marketing campaign designed to hook people so they will purchase the game once it launches.

Well, it's worked for me. I persevered through the downloading and patching phase and managed to get on today. Looks good to me and if it keeps working as well as it has so far, I'll definately be buying it. Anyone who lets a bit of trouble the very first time the systems are seriously stressed is doing themselves a dis-service. At least get into the game and try it out before making a decision. You'll never know otherwise.

Sorry? It won't recover from a problem during beta testing? What do you think beta tests are actually for?

At least wait till release before starting this sort of nonsensical ranting.

Pity they chose to put the updated file client on that stupid fileplanet. It's woeful. Half an hour wait to start a 1.8 GB download which looks as if it's going to take anything between 8 hours and infinity to complete.

A conspiracy theorist might conclude that Cryptic actually own flieplanet (or vice versa) and they are trying to boost fileplanets subscriptions...personally I would never suggest such a thing :p

Don't give up yet :)

They've released a 'manual patch' that allows you to download all the files you need, on fileplanet unfortunatelty. Thre are links all over the CO site for anybody who hasn't seen it yet.

The patcher is obviously broken but this is the time to find out - while we're still in beta.

They've put a 'manual patch' out for download now so we don't have to watch the patcher constantly fail. It is disappointing but it is, also, still in beta. Ironing out bugs like this is what the beta's for. Having said that, distribution of data is pretty fundamental stuff and has been done successfully for many years...

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Strange. When my patcher got hung up, after a while it told me it had lost the connection to the server. Then the client "stopped responding" and crashed. Awesome!

That's exactly what happened to me and because it crashed it failed to correctly save what it had downloaded so far and started again from scratch when I restarted it. It's a joke frankly.

Originally posted by Malakhon

This is SO friggen confusing. Piggs and Hoggs.

Live folder HAS hogg files in it.

There is a Live\PIGGS folder thats hogg files in IT as well.

 So I have no idea what files to move to the prepatch folder.

 How friggin hard would it have been to swap whatever needs swapping in the download on Fileplanet?

The /Live folder should have a bunch of large .hogg files in it after running the fileplanet installer.

The Live/piggs folder will have whatever you've downloaded so far, unless you made a lot of progress, it'll be far smaller than the /Live folder.

The .hogg files in the /Live folder need to be in the /Live/piggs folder so the patcher doesn't go and get them all again. But you must launch the patcher and then quit it before moving the files across otherwise they'll be overwritten.

Originally posted by Sineath

This is just the stupidest thing I've seen in a long long time.  Game download 2 gb over weeks of time, then everyone at once patching for 3.6 gb.  Stupid, stupid,...just plain stupid.

Agreed but this was due to an error in the patcher. Most of that data was already on the PC from the fileplanet installer and didn't need to be downloaded but someone put them in the wrong directory so the patcher didn't see them. That's why it was downloading them all again. Having said that, the performance of the patcher in the download department is abysmal...someone needs to give the hamster a bit more food.

Originally posted by therain93

The amount of new posts on their boards complaining is just obnoxious. 

If nobody complained they'd never know that anything was wrong...