Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Whats so bad about crafting exclusively for your clan ? They help you with the ressources you getting higher skill , you provide gear ..any bad in it ?

The are enough solo games (and many wannabe and wannabecalled MMORPG's)  you can get rich for yourself , there is joy and satisfaction in supporting others , you know ?

Nothing wrong with wanting to support your clan if you so choose.

How ever this is suppose to be a sandbox game correct? Play how you want, be what you want.

Or are you saying this is not a sandbox game?

It  is funny how I can Google for a publisher for Darkfall and find one for Dark Fall: Lost Souls. BUt absolutely nothing for this game.

Well if they want my money they will tell me who is publishing this game. If it is Aventurine self publishing Then all the players who left EU1 and payed again for the NA really got screwed.

Did anyone notice in that review who the publisher was?

It said it was Aventurine. lol. So I hope that is just for the EU1 server. Although Aventurine says it is another company.

Just wanted to put that out there.

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Otiro - Of course we can use the EU client for NA.   It's just a matter of changing the IP in the CFG.   If a person wants to get a head start on dl, I suggested what I'd do.     If you don't want to do that, don't.

-CC

How do you know? Do you have some inside info? Really, you have as much of an idea as I have. Now I do agree it probably will be the same client. How ever I want the facts not assumptions.

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Originally posted by junzo316

Responding to your number 3....

 

LotRO released housing (among other things) in an update, not an expansion.  So, your point is not made.

 

My number 3 read:

Like this is really important? The "Addition" of "Housing, a Villiage System with asset benefits and open pvp opportunities for villiages to be captures/lost; Nexus System" it is clearly an expansion. I agree the many other items on the list can be viewed as a patch, but not the ones I just referenced.

 

I think most of us are tired of beating a dead horse, but it's more than houses, which in LoTRO are instanced.

A "Non-Instanced" housing system that is persistant, that goes on to comprise a "Villiage System" that acts as a revenue stream and can change hands based on PvP, along with the Nexus System, which isn't a code produced static subway system, but a player controlled transport opportunity, "EXPAND" the current game.

@Farlic - Eve is the one and only game you can reference that has FFA, and it's a space sim.    All the other games play it safe with risk, pvp, and use code to dictate player behavior.    You are wrong about Hamlets not being used.  I should know, as it is our guilds and one of our allies main home in the game, and we are having a blast.

Peace -CC

I would like your opinion on what the risk is in Darkfall?

As I see it there really is no risk. Yes you can lose your gear and inventory, however it is easily replaced = no risk.  With the new crafting updates, it is even easier to get gear.

You can lose a city or hamlet but so what? The same resources can be found any where. Yes you can harvest more in the cities. how ever to me it is still no big loss. Now if each city had special resources that could not be found any where else and only those that belonged to the city could harvest them. Then losing that city/hamlet would be risk = reward. As it stands now anyone can harvest anywhere even in enemy cities/hamlets.

See in a world as harsh as this game is suppose to be, I would expect a real risk vs reward. Loss of stats/skills would be a start. Or getting armor weapons being hard to come by would be another way. How ever the game sort of started that way and all you saw was naked players running around, to afraid to wear their gear.

I can understand Farlic's use of comparing to Eve. Like you said it is the only other game that has FFA PVP. Now while that game may have insurance for losses, it is still has more risk vs. reward than Darkfall has right now. In my opinion.

So again in your opinion what is the risk in this game?

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Originally posted by lilreap2k3

Anyone heard anything about whether we will be able to download the NA client before release? Waiting hours for a download to finish while others are playing happily ingame sucks.

 

The best I could come up with is this pre-release file from Fileplanet.

www.fileplanet.com/196879/190000/fileinfo/Darkfall-Online-Pre-Order-Client

If I were you, I'd at least get that, then you will only have to patch and not dl the entire game.

We already know those of us with the EU client can play NA on day 1 if we purchase a new key, so I'm sure instructions will be posted on any .cfg changes we need to make for that to work.

Good luck -CC

Actually know ones if you can use the same client as EU. All we know so far is that we need to buy a new account for NA. That could also mean a new download of the client.

While the same company supplying the servers for EU is the same for NA their farms are in different locations and may want you to download a different client. Or the new Publisher who ever that may be may want it that way. Until Monday know ones what is going on.

I would wait to see. Why download a client that you might not be able to use.

Originally posted by Cristina1

Originally posted by Phelcher

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Now the game is out.

Why? becuase when a developer finally decides to put a buy button on the website it means they are ready for go time.

People forget they did say this would be a slow release until they were ready for prime time. Which I might add from what I have read is basically exactly what MO is doing as well.

 

 

 

Your only fooling yourself. 

Most people who would ever buy or play such a game, was part of the 300k who registered for beta. No amount of "ok this is the real release of Darkfall" is going to bring them back or change their minds.

You only have 1 shot at a release... no amount of anything afterwards will ever matter. Vanguard is proof of that.

 

 

 

nah, there are still thousands of potential players who havent tried it, many havent even heard about it. You are assuming that the whole gaming population is only 300k people.

There still might be a few thousand potential costomers. How ever I think they would be out of that 300,000. I am quite sure that some decided long ago to just wait for the NA release. As far a the idea of many have not heard about the game. I don't think that is the case. Most if not all the people that would like this type of game already know about it. Anyone that has not heard about it would probably be the ones that don't want this style of play.
 

As for the topic that is a nice list of patches. Lets hope they work well.

Sorry, but there is no stand alone expansion pack for TSO. It is the complete game. 

Right now I would have to say MO, is more trust worthy.

With this last patch and the new websites Aventurine has put up, Maybe they are trying to change their ways. We shall see.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by miagisan

LFGame » Darkfall goes GOLD (North American launch) July 13th - Try it

 

Sure, can you point me to the trial that was promised? Where can i try it without buying it?

 

Name 1 tripple A title that had a free trial at launch

Well you decide if it is a AAA company and it was like 6 years ago.

They were considered an Indy company just starting out offered a free trial the day the game was released. They even had cd's in some game magazines.

Care to guess which game?

Whether you guessed or not it was EVE.

Also COS also had basically a free trial when the game launched, you could play up to a certain level for free.

I think it would have been wise for Aventurine to do the same. Now with NA server coming on line they have another chance. If they don't set a free trial soon, I don't think they will get enough subscribers to maintain the server/servers.

The thing is you are trying to defend a game/company that has been proven to lie and deceive at every turn. Now while I still have an interest in the game. I will not try it till I know for certain that things have turned around, or a free trial is given.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by Otiro

Aventurine is the company writing the code. They are the ones that made Darkfall. They are the ones that are implementing the Expansion. They are the ones most likely publishing the game. They are the same company.

Understand?

So if they Self publish in NA, and still are charging $50.00 for a new client and saying they have to because they have a different publisher, they are blantantly lying. You don't see a problem with this?

 

 

 

not exactly but I think you and I are talking about two different things.

I am asking why does it matter who is publishing the game.

I am not sure what your point is regarding the question of who is the publisher.

Just read this thread, You have even responded to some of them.

I for one am now done with you.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by Otiro

Well if they do self publish, that faithful few will be really small.

I would hope The Aventurine would be smart and have a decent publisher to help the game grow.How ever with that said I do think they are self publishing like you said.

 

 

They were self publishing before the game was out and the entire MMO very exicted about it. They self publsihed when the servers came on line and people came in mass. They are still self publishing now even though many players have quit but regardless, publishers do not write code so I really dont see how it matters.

Aventurine is the company writing the code. They are the ones that made Darkfall. They are the ones that are implementing the Expansion. They are the ones most likely publishing the game. They are the same company.

Understand?

So if they Self publish in NA, and still are charging $50.00 for a new client and saying they have to because they have a different publisher, they are blantantly lying. You don't see a problem with this?

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by Otiro

Can we get back on topic please? Never mind the dribble some fans are spewing.

Any word yet on who the NA publisher is? Or like the "Expansion" do we have to wait till the day before.

 

I think that Aventurine is trying to hold off as long as possible on disclosing who the publisher is. 

For some reason they think some of their players may balk when they finally have to disclose that they are self-publishing. 

They will still have the faithful few though that will back them with that decision though.

 

Nevermind that it will make a lot of what they said before invalid... that really won't matter at all. 

Well if they do self publish, that faithful few will be really small.

I would hope The Aventurine would be smart and have a decent publisher to help the game grow.How ever with that said I do think they are self publishing like you said.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Well, it shows AV is still alive and kicking, and can pay the bills enough to keep releasing more new features.  Along with the NA server annoucment, at least they are making a go of it and we'll see if it all pays off in the long run.

 

Is it they are still alive and kicking or is it a last ditch effort to stay a float?

Now I think these are nice additions they are implementing, even if a little to late. I just hope for the players still playing that it is enough to repopulate the game. I have my doubts, but like you say "they are making a go of it".  So we will see what happens

Can we get back on topic please? Never mind the dribble some fans are spewing.

Any word yet on who the NA publisher is? Or like the "Expansion" do we have to wait till the day before.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Scoorge

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by rhinok

 "Houses offer house recall and can be upgraded to offer you benefits such as the capability of sharing your house with friends, the option of having a harvestable garden or a private workbench, and much more. Many feature an open window you can use to trade through more safely."

 

Can`t wait for "OMG I GOT EXPLOITED AND RAPED AT MY TRADE WINDOW" stories.

 

The highlighted part actually says something.

Out of the hundreds of houses, only SOME of them can be used to trade from.

Many feature an open window means that not all of them do.

I'm wondering if the houses will be already built, and the deed allows you to claim one.

 

I'm guessing the houses are prebuilt.  But I don't care, all this gets added to the game now before MO is even in beta and its just like a giant kick in the nuts for all trolls. I'm in fanboy mode again and I don't care OWND OWND OWND OWND

Well it is nice to see Aventurine FINALLY put in what was promised before release. While it looks good, know knows how well it it run ingame. With the weather effects I can see  major lag happening again. Just because this is being released before MO's beta means nothing.

This is all stuff that should have been added 5 months ago. Ever hear a little too late? This is it. While it might bring back a few players. I think most are done with this game and looking forward to other games. But we will see what happens. If things are running smoothly in 6 months and the game has a good population of more than 10,000 Then I'll subscribe. Not untill then.

You never left Fanboi mode. So just stay your course. By now very few people here or on the official forums cares about your little useless statements.

Just so you know the only ones that got owned was Aventurine. Why do you think this was done? They know they are dead and this is the last effort they have to keep subscribers.

Originally posted by marcnyk

Yeh, I thought it might.

My only fear is that, because im running on 64bit Vista ill inevitably have an issue, which has been the case with several other games.

 

But I guess all I can do is wait and see.

Thanks for your help ^^

Just for info, I have Vista 64 bit and I run EQ2 just fine. Just remember when you start the game to right click the icon and select run as administrator.

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by seabeast

HAPPY 4TH  ALL,

ANYONE KNOW WHERE I COULD DOWNLOAD THE GAME? lol sorry just a thought

 

Can't really say I'm feeling the fourth.
I have to get tested for cystic fibrosis next week.  A disorder that people don't typically live past 37 with, although some have made it to 40.  I'll be 33 in Oct.

Can't really say I care who the publisher is anymore.
Sudenly I'm scared shitless that this game may be here after I'm not.

https://accounts.eu.darkfallonline.com/account/
You can get the game through that link. 
However, I don't recommend it.

Well I for one wish you the best of luck.

Be nice if it was a current review. But that review was done when the game first came out. I am curious on how they would rate the game today.

Darkfall has almost everything you are asking for.