Originally posted by Burntvet

 

A lot of the /snipped stuff were symptoms of the same problem: SOE's inability to run a game over the long term. Doc buffs, and comp armor, and all the rest were not a huge problem, UNTIL the really high number value resources rolled around and that did not happen for a year or so on all servers. SOE simply did not test things out, using equipment approaching the max values, because they didn't think about it or that those values would be hit. 3k doc buffs were de-stablizing to overall game play, so was 90% comp and 500 per tick mind poison from CMs. Had they capped the max values of that stuff at some reasonable levels, or seen the need to do so, it would have prevented a whole lot of other problems. Instead SOE did one thing after another with no thought to what the overall and long-term gameplay consequences would be. Too bad SOE has no foresight, at all.

 To be fair I don't thik the resource system was pre-generated values - they are dynamic, unlike in most other games.

That why you see so many of those exceptional values are here 1 day and people will swoop to by those resources and gears and they will be gone the next.

It is quite difficult to test things in environment such as that.

If the resource system was like WoW where quality is static and availability doesn't fluctuate I would agree with you.

I think the dynamic resource and experimentation aspect of SWG pre-cu was that reason why SWG was loved by crafters in the first place.

Originally posted by Lahuzer
While I think the DF community is among the most hostile communities I've ever encountered. The once that is mature, are among the best I've encountered. So don't worry. They are there, and are quite easy to spot.

 All pvp centric games have hostile communities between rivals (and I mean all - have not seen one that doesn't)

Emotions tends to run high in pvp games.

Originally posted by ShakyMo

to be fair its not as important in defiance - as all content can be done in guild.

 Good point.

In fact most of the content can even be soloed (besides co-op missions of course) - since there is dynamic difficulty adjustments depending on group size for things such as arkfalls.

Originally posted by ShakyMo

in game voice will be very handy for AVA

my planetside 2 guild runs two platoons (well sometimes 3), 1 in guild, the other public.

the in game voice is vital for the public platoon so that people not in guild can follow orders.

Its also handy as they have a channel for platoon leaders across faction to coordinate

 It depends on the quality of the ingame voice support though.

Planetside 2's voice quality was quite good and was pretty clear (kudos to them).

Defiance's voice quality is absolutely woeful - I turn them off if someone has it on. I hear less than 10% of what they are saying because the quality was so bad.

Originally posted by Zadawn
This game is not worth the hassle imo

 If you ever think that ANY of your gaming experience is a "hassle" you probably should just do something else instead of gaming in general.

Even when I play the crappiest game I won't think it was a "hassle". I would think it was shit, but shit is not the same as "hassle".

Originally posted by jpnole
I have been a big sci fi fan since the days of watching 1960s Star Trek re runs in the 80s. I was very impressed with the show last night. I was not nearly as impressed by the open beta though.

 I think that was expected - of any game to tv show links.

If the show was WORSE than the game than that would imply the show is absolutely woeful and means that show is not worth primetime tv quality.

Most DF players will be older people.

Don't think kids or people with immature mentality can handle being kill and looted.

Originally posted by Xirik

who praised it? not enough people to make it viable as a bussiness it seems or it would still be here.

 SWG existed until Lucasarts wanted a new MMO in swtor.

UO is STILL around.

Originally posted by Warmaker

Originally posted by Burntvet

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by precuorbust

An example of Pre-CU...  You could never ONCE set foot into combat, yet be as valueble if not more so than an alpha class Jedi...

By being a Doctor who set himself up to provide optimum combat buffs by buying or making the best, etc.

Or by being the weaponsmith who made the best Krayt fitted weapons on the server.

Or by being the best armorsmith, who made the 90% stun comp armor...

Or by being an available entertainer, and giving those mind buffs...

God I miss that.

 

Wow this sounds a lot like AoW. 

 

Original SWG was 10X the game AoW could ever be on its best day. Especially the crafting.

One of the early major faults in the Pre-CU days was, in hindsight, Doctor Buffs. 

 I totally agree (only glimpsed through your reasoning, but I know what are you getting at because I had a similar view)

Doctor buffing was out of control and set an artificial standard for gears. It is kinda like a preview of what will happen to sports if there were no anti-doping agencies.

Originally posted by Bigmac1910
Nintendo launched the Wii U late last year, approx as powerful as the Xbox360 / PS3, and they really screwed up their marketing campaigns, thats why few people have heard of them.

 Not true. Not true at all (as well as a few others who was saying Wii failed).

Wii is doing VERY WELL in the apac regions. It is just NOT doing well in US.

It has a tendency of that because a lot of Wii games are NOT in English and NOT made for Western crowds.

It has been making a killing for the last few years in Asia - so much so that Sony and Microsoft have to release action feedback controllers to try to corner the market that Wii has taken.

And the principle of international business for the last 10 years is, if something is selling well in East Asia (China, HK, Japan, Korea, TW, Singapore, Malaysia, etc), who needs US/Europe? East Asia's current population size and spending power easily outstrips US by a mile. US is in recession, Asia is in growth.

Nintendo is doing very well.

Originally posted by Burntvet
While Defiance is much better comparatively as a game, we will see what the show turns out to be: good or an overly CGI'd crapfest.

 The show is not overally CGI - because obviously this is a post-apoc sci-fi series not a space one like Babylon 5 or something. It is kinda similar to Firefly (with the similar wild west post-apoc feel).

Thats said I personally don't feel the show will bring much of the mature crowd to the game obviously, because of the fact that online games are time consuming and not a lot of adults who have time to watch shows will have time to play games.

Watching shows is easy - you can even watch them in the toilet via mobile. Online games however requires players to be in front of tv/PC to play it. With the fact that there are so many good shows currently showing this year (Game of Thrones, Vikings, Hannibal, etc) I don't the think a lot of the TV crowd who watched Defiance will translate to playing the game.

I believe it is rather the other way around (the game will make the show more popular/known).

1 v 1 warplots will be quite stupid if they were going to have it (which they don't) if you think about it - it is basically a feud between 2 lousy neighbours.

1 v 1 is not a "war" lol... it is just a fight.

Originally posted by TheScavenger

How solable will this MMO be?  

 It won't be.

You've chose the wrong mmo to ask this question mate.

Originally posted by ellobo29
Not trolling here. Just legitimate curiousity. Financally how has definace been since release? Has this game made money? or is it in the red still?

 It is probably as successful as APB when it firstr launched I think (maybe doing a bit better than APB).

While not exactly the same type of game/crowd Defiance is close to being PvE version APB (but with more sci-fi and less crime oriented).

I'd imagine it probably stole a good portion of APB crowd. I personally know a few who have switched and not played APB since Defiance came out.

Don't know about platforms other than PC though.

In addition to mod set synergy there is also class synergy with some weapons (those that of epic or above qualities, generally).

Class synergy gives benefit if you are of certain starting class.

DC Universe (and in fact, any superhero games) should probably have been a MOBA all along... they should never have been mmos.

Who cares what superheroes eat, drink or train? Most ppl watch superhero movies because thye want to see heroic things, like fighting epic enemies... not standing around in a town trading goods lol.

Originally posted by Purutzil

Its fine to post negatives about the game but... where exactly do you give any proof cash shop ruins everything?

 It is basically an misguided title from the OP.

His review actually seems to have very little mention of cash shop at all, let alone evidence.

Originally posted by Zapzap

The reason Wildstar looks like WoW

Wildstar actually don't look anything like WoW. That is your first mistake... which caused all your subsequent mistakes in your post.

Wildstar actually looked like a game made by Pixar, if Pixar actually make games.

And because your initial assumption is incorrect, there is very little chance that there are any other valid points in your post.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

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Originally posted by mmoski
The Foundry is a huge step forward in MMO gaming, when players are given tools, amazing things happen, things that can make a game far more popular than would have been expected, and mould the game in a different light.

I think its the single greatest innovative feature to come to this genre since the inception of the MMORPG.  But thats personal opinion and is no way indicitive of proveable fact.

I said this before,,, fully agree with this..

 

But the future of the foundry and ccomparable systems is fully based on this one game, and how much these developers keep ugrading the foundry untill it becomes a set that allows people to develop their very own MMO´s.. but thats still a very very long way to go.

I think it will be the future of pc gaming period, but it's been a long time coming to mmos.  Cryptic really deserves some credit with this one.  Games, and more importantly IPs, last longer and flourish if players can create and contribute.

GoG is having a sale on System Shock 2.  I read an assoicated modding guide and there is a very dedicated community of gamers that mod the game.  I was surprised that the game has lasted this long and it's really because of those modders.

Torchlight 2 just released their in house editor and mods tools.  That IP has a very dedicated mod community.  The crazy thing is I paid $20 for that game and they've updated and added more free content than some mmos I've played.  Runic is an amazing studio.

Cryptic is really pioneering here because of the quality and depth of their editor and how well the missions integrate into the game world.

i also think it's funny when people chime in with dev content is way better than player created and such.. but in my experience in games like skyrim or nwn player made stuff was a lot of fun in many cases and also lasted me a LOT longer overall as long as you have a decent population of people making content... only issue is in single player games you have more free reign to create anything in games like skyrim as the creation tool allows you can recreate absolutely anything totally changing the games ruleset to however you want. In nw we are limited to just quests but it's still a big step in the right direction

 Agreed.

I think it might indicate the possibly that Devs are often types not good storytellers, good as they might be in developing a game.

And good storytellers are not very often necessarily have the know-how in making games.

This is why I think the Foundry is a good thing also - it makes gamemaking/mastering accessible to storytellers.

Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

I had to vote yes. Any game that's going to focus purely on RvR has got to have CD included. If you're defending a keep and the gate is breached your natural 2nd line of defence will be your shield wall. If the enemy can just run through that then what's the fucking point?

What, the gate goes and we're fucked? Nah. Gotta be able to block the opposition or it's just too simplistic. I've seen arguments for and against CD and the word realism gets thrown around a lot. I don't see anything wrong with a more realistic system tbh, but what I don't want it to be is too easy. The ability to slow down your enemy by throwing bodies at them is exactly as it should be.

 This.

One of the best aspect about WAR is you can prevent people from entering the keep by stacking up shea numbers at the door once it breached (which is how it was supposed to be, in siege warfare).

If you can just run through defense at will and assassinate them from behind there is really not much point in defending sieges.

I got a feeling that a lot of those that voted no are people who likes to run stealth classes or caster classes that favours having no obstruction at all (like for example the more survivable hybrid caster classes). Casters that are squishy, range non-caster classes or tanks I can't forsee will like having no CD at all (I guess that's why the poll is 1/3 saying no CD is good).