Originally posted by PatchDay

Originally posted by Kyleran

Since there is no agreed upon definition of what a sandbox game is, there tends to be quite a difference of opinion and I've see people argue that WOW is a sandbox game.  (its not, IMO)

Many posters will quote you the "features" of a sandbox game (no classes or levels, freedom to pursue your own path, not quest driven etc) and they are correct.  But how many features (or toys) does a game need to be considered a sandbox? That's the dilema one faces. 

I like this model the best.

 

Less Sandbox Features                                                           More Sandbox Features

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WOW     LotRO      AOC                     CoX         Lineage 2           Darkfall          EVE      UO

Placement of the above games is not scientific or even well thought out, just a represention for my example.

IMO opinion, the games on the right allow more player freedom and more tools which are used to create the gaming experience.

The games on the left have fewer tools, follow a more linear progression, and are more themepark in their approach.

Each game style has its merits, and both types can be fun.

 

You claim this chart wasn't well thought out but it seems really accurate from where I sit. gj

 

Why is UO more sandbox then EVE?

"you can Explore, produce, mine, kill, do whatever your heart can thing of (even smuggle)" can't you do that in WoW?

People say they give you the tools to make your own adventure, what are those tools? How can you change the game world in EVE? Can you change the story of the game? Aren't their quests in Eve, making it have themepark elements? What makes WoW quests different then EVE quests?

I was always confused as to what Sandbox means. So...lets compare eve to say WoW a game that is cited as a "theme park" game, what things does EVE have in it that are different than WoW that make it a sandbox?

Originally posted by M1sf1t

Why are the characters casting heals and fire spells? It's supposed to be a post apocalyptic world not a D&D fantasy world.

Because they have nanites and stuff in their bodies.

Take a look at these 4 videos.

http://www.massively.com/2009/06/08/e3-2009-fallen-earth-lead-designer-on-fallout-comparison/

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/69546

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQctAn3Jjes&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aa296wJiLs&feature=related
 

Vid plus interview:  http://www.massively.com/2009/06/08/e3-2009-fallen-earth-lead-designer-on-fallout-comparison/

Another video:  http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/69546

A third video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQctAn3Jjes&feature=related

A fourth video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aa296wJiLs&feature=related

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I say no. I'll support may statement later. I am what you would call a radical Right Winger and proud to say it.

What don't you like about the world, to bland? To grim? To cheesy?

Fallen Earth will be next great game imo.

To the OP: Fallen Earth will be mmofpsrpg with pvp, 7000 square km game world, 95% of items being craftable items, persistent world, ect.

Alas, there is 1 mmo that has a chance of being awsome. Fallen Earth, real time FPS combat (no dice rolls to see if you hit them, you have to put the reticle over them to hit) 95% of the items are craftable, post apacolyptic Mad-Max setting, 6 factions, 7000 thousand square km game world, no classes, sandbox.

I think it will be great.

oh hardy har har.

You know that's not what i'm talking about.

It might...

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Anyone know? Is it just me?

lol very funny.

Seriousley though.

Well tbh I wasn't expecting you to I was wondering if anyone from the community was here.

Well, I dunno maybe.

Anyways why are the forums down?! There must be someone from the community here to answer.

Twilight war is a post-apacolyptic mmorpg with real time fps combat  that is supposed to come out in a while. It's like Fallen Earth but it has open pvp  and player looting, and none of that carebare stuff. It's based on the Source engine.

Anyways why are the forums down? Anyone?

Why are the forums down?!