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Paying for Everquest and FFXI was worth it.  Both were subs.  I am pissed I paid for TWS and FFXIV.  I've never played a F2P that I would pay $1 for or give another hour of my life to.
Originally posted by perrin82
Can we get back on topic please.

No

F2P is very shady.  F2P can't be about anything except getting the player to purchase more items with real money.  Creating a good game equates to creating a good cash shop with F2P.  Pushing people to purchase items certainly doesn't do anything to help create a stable community in a MMO.  
FFXI had some good chain quests, as well as the traditional kill x quests.  By good I mean that they were a mystery.  After you received the mission you weren't sure where to go or exactly what you needed to do.  You just knew someone was in trouble.  It was up to you to figure out what they were talking about.  This usually equated to finding a website to tell you what to do, but there was still a bit of thought you had to put into it.
Originally posted by Archlyte
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Kyleran

While I do understand where you are coming from, I really don't think you understand the decade we are living in.

Games are being made exactly the way the majority of the player base wants, these features you list appeal to a much smaller niche which most larger developers are not interested in targeting.

 

So then the problem is who develops games now.

That is not a problem, per se. The market works (though not perfectly) that a large number of players are entertained, and devs have a living to make.

 

Or the CEOs have a living to make

Don't tell me only the CEOs have to eat, but not the producers, writers, coders, level-designers, artists, and QAs.

Who gives a shit. The end product is all that matters. If you are buying games because you want to donate to game makers then you have some strange thinking. The masses who meet the median and mean description get the game they want because they collectively have the deepest pockets.

If you are in the "niche" audience then as long as there is a newish game to play with your features that should be good enough. Trying to make the unwashed masses like an old school game is a fool's errand, and isn't actually in alignment with your goals anyway. Buy the games (for the game, not to support anyone) that come out with the features that you like.

Games can still be bad even if they have a good list of features and systems, so like Narius would say just go on and buy/sub/play the next game that meets your needs.

If you are an old school player who needs the gaming populace to change to your tastes then I think you are basically trying to be the bad guy, hoping for world domination through forum wars.

Please tell me of this magical game that "meets my needs."

And to the other person, maybe the CEOs shouldn't be eating so much.

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Kyleran

While I do understand where you are coming from, I really don't think you understand the decade we are living in.

Games are being made exactly the way the majority of the player base wants, these features you list appeal to a much smaller niche which most larger developers are not interested in targeting.

 

So then the problem is who develops games now.

That is not a problem, per se. The market works (though not perfectly) that a large number of players are entertained, and devs have a living to make.

 

Or the CEOs have a living to make

Iris VS Iris Pro
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12/20/14 12:35:57 PM
Originally posted by Ridelynn

 


Originally posted by Magiknight
I understand them already.

 

I already said I don't play a whole lot of games anymore.  Just because I set up a windows partition to play a couple programs does not mean that I should only use Windows.....  How does that make sense?

Why so many windows fan boys?  Why can no one stick to a subject on these forums?  The subject was Iris or Iris Pro?

Someone said their Iris Pro wouldn't play FFXIV, but youtube has videos of people playing FFXIV on a Intel HD5000 (specifically, a macbook air).  


 

Seems you already know what you are going to do - we offered our advice - it's your money. It has absolutely nothing to do with OS X vs Windows Software - it's all about the hardware.

I DONT know what I'm going to do! That's the entire point of me posting.......omg

I don't know if I'm getting an Iris or Iris Pro..... holy cow

Text leaves more to the imagination.  So the player has to make a little effort to read what the character says.  They also have to imagine how the character would sound and do some interpretation.  It makes the game a little more personal.
I don't really need to know about or care about  peoples preferences for Windows or OS X.  I'd ask a question that actually pertains to my situation, but what's the point if people are just going to talk about a windows machine versus a OS X machine?  So since that's what people want to talk about please do it here.  
Originally posted by Kyleran

While I do understand where you are coming from, I really don't think you understand the decade we are living in.

Games are being made exactly the way the majority of the player base wants, these features you list appeal to a much smaller niche which most larger developers are not interested in targeting.

 

So then the problem is who develops games now.

Originally posted by N64314

So, I was going to go on a big rant about how every new age MMO is solo quest till max lvl then raid but I'm sure everyone has heard it before. I'll just ask point blank; are there any new age MMOs that resemble the older models? I'm talking about games like Everquest 1 and DAOC. I love those types of games because of the social aspect of it. I don't want to pay 15$ a month to play a single player game. I like camping a spawn for hours on end or dungeon crawling with a group of buddies but I am unable to find a newer MMO that fits that bill. Is that age of the MMO completely dead? Is there a game I may have overlooked? Just so someone doesn't mention a game I have already played here is a list.

Age of Conan: UnchainedAionDark Age of CamelotDarkfall: Unholy WarsEntropia UniverseEVE OnlineEverQuestEverQuest IIGuild Wars 2Lineage 2MU OnlineRiftTERA: RisingWorld of Warcraft

I played DAOC for about 3+ years and EvE online for 3+ years and enjoyed them a lot. Most of the others I played here and there for maybe 6 months or so.

Thanks for your time!

Please rant.  It's the only thing these forums are good for.

Originally posted by syntax42
Originally posted by Magiknight

Why so many whys?  I was just wondering about Iris vs Iris Pro.....

Your logic for desiring a MacBook is not based on function or budget, apparently.  Quizzical is just trying to help you understand the products and offering alternatives which may help you save money while achieving the same goals.

The biggest problem with Macs is that the selection of games is limited.  If you buy a Mac and install Windows on it just to gain access to games, you might as well buy a Windows computer in the first place.  If you have some other program you must run on a Mac, then you will need a Mac.  Otherwise, Macs are only for the uneducated consumers who pay extra for equivalent hardware they could get for half the price if they didn't care about the Apple logo.

I understand them already.

I already said I don't play a whole lot of games anymore.  Just because I set up a windows partition to play a couple programs does not mean that I should only use Windows.....  How does that make sense?

Why so many windows fan boys?  Why can no one stick to a subject on these forums?  The subject was Iris or Iris Pro?

Someone said their Iris Pro wouldn't play FFXIV, but youtube has videos of people playing FFXIV on a Intel HD5000 (specifically, a macbook air).  

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Getting two laptops is actually good advice if you don't need to have your gaming in a single unit. You can also look at some refurbs on the Apple site and get a better deal than a new one sometimes.

Both ASUS and Lenovo have some nice laptops with good discreet cards for $1000 - $1400.

Newegg: Lenovo Y70 (17" screen) for $1099: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834318071

Newegg: ASUS ROG G551 (15" screen) for $1099: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232122&ignorebbr=1

Newegg: ASUS ROG G750 (17" screen and GTX-870M) for $1299: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232276&ignorebbr=1

Newegg: ASUS ROG G751 (17" screen GTX-970M) for $1499: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232202&ignorebbr=1

You can get some of those models much cheaper by sacrificing the high end graphics cards in them for one less powerful like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834232195&ignorebbr=1 which is $950.

You can get a cheaper deal on some of the better models by buying and open box or refurb model. I like to buy things new and so I normally don't look at those, but if you're just looking for a second system only for gaming it might be something to consider. Quizzical and Ridelynn would know better about that than I would. I just thought I would toss out a couple of ideas if you went with 2 systems.

edit: I was assuming you would need the gaming rig to be a laptop too, but if not then those two could recommend desktop hardware that would save you a lot on the laptops and likely get you much more power for the money.

I am getting a refurb.....

If I spend $1000 on a macbook and then over $1000 on a second gaming laptop I'm spending well over 2K, which I'm not doing.

Originally posted by Ridelynn

I buy a lot of Macs. For personal and work use.

If your gaming (as most people on this site are) - anything Intel is bad, and you need to step up to one of the discrete cards in the Pro lines (pretty much just the top end Retina 15" any more). You won't play FFXIV on anything by Intel - even under Boot camp (since there is no native OS X client... yet) - without turning down every single option and running it on pathetic low.

If you are doing serious graphic work: Photoshop, Illustrator, CAD, video creation, etc. You should really consider stepping up to one of the discrete cards.

If your just using a Mac because you love OS X, and use it for typical Mac laptop things (surfing web, Office-type stuff, i-Suite software, etc), you won't notice the difference between Iris or Iris Pro anyway, and discrete graphics just means your battery gets about 2/3 of the run time it otherwise would.

I love my Macbook Pro, it has Iris Pro graphics. I use it for 6-8 hours a day. I also play FFXIV. I would never, ever play FFXIV on my Macbook. Seriously. Get the 13" Macbook, use the extra $1000-$1500 you would have spent on the Macbook Pro to build a gaming desktop PC that can play FFXIV very well. You get both then.

The price difference between the 13in and 15in macbook pro I'm looking at is $300, not $1000 - $1500

Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by Magiknight

My last mac was my first.  I never had to worry about a virus and the system never crashed.  It was a lot smoother than windows.  And I just like how OS X is designed.  I don't miss windows at all, but I've never used Windows 8.

I was looking at the refurbished macbooks, as opposed to the brand new ones.  So I'm not spending 2K.  

If the system never crashed, then how do you know it's dying?  I've had a WIndows 7 desktop for over five years and it has literally crashed exactly twice in that time: one system lockup and one blue screen, both immediately fixed by rebooting.  It certainly doesn't seem to be dying to me.  The blue screen a day era of Windows 95/98/ME is long since over; that entire code base is completely deprecated.  You can get mediocre Windows hardware that is likely to crash a lot or have various other problems, but that's a problem of getting mediocre hardware, not something intrinsic to Windows.

Having a Mac doesn't mean you don't have to worry about viruses.  While there are a lot fewer viruses for Mac, your anti-virus protections are probably also much weaker.  You're probably less likely to get a virus on Mac than Windows, but you can still get them if you assume you're immune and get reckless.  Running Linux wouldn't make you completely immune to viruses, either, but it will get you closer than Mac OS X.

If you like the design of Mac OS X better than that of Windows 7, it's not likely that Windows 8 will change your mind.  If you like OS X better than Vista, well, basically everyone likes Windows 7 better than Vista, too.

There are problems with a lot of games being awkward or impossible to run if you don't dual boot Windows.  But you're presumably familiar with and accept that if you've just had a Mac for the last three years.

Why are you looking for a laptop in the first place?  Laptops are intrinsically much less reliable than a properly built desktop.  They're also more expensive for slower hardware, much harder or impossible to upgrade or repair, and a variety of other things.  If you need the mobility of a laptop, then sure, get a laptop.  But if you don't, then get a desktop.

If you're set on a Mac and want games to run decently in Mac OS X, then you should probably look for something that doesn't have an outlandish monitor resolution (1920x1080 or 1920x1200 is fine) and does have a discrete video card.  Apple doesn't have anything like that in their current lineup, but you can probably get that in a refurbished model from a year or two ago.  Do be warned that if you're doing to dual boot into Windows for games, discrete switchable graphics probably wouldn't work properly in WIndows.

Why so many whys?  I was just wondering about Iris vs Iris Pro.....

Well other than the issue I'm having now I never had any trouble with it.  It IS dying.  Google "2011 macbook pro GPU failure."  I'm left with a Intel HD3000 that crashes and gives weird images all the time. 

I wouldn't think a couple crashes means a system is dying either......  I'm glad your Windows 7 computer worked out for you.

I've probably had 7 windows systems in my life.  Been there, done that.  No thanks.

I do keep a copy of Windows on my current macbook and might do so on my next one.  The discrete switchable graphics always worked (until the GPU failure).

I want a laptop because I travel sometimes.  And I like to take my laptop places that are local.

 

Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by Magiknight

HELLO!

I'm debating about whether I should get a new laptop with an Iris or Iris Pro.  I can find benchmarks for both GPUs on separate pages.  What I can't find, which would be helpful, is an article that compares the Iris and Iris Pro.  From what I can find, the Iris and Iris Pro are the same card with the exception of the Iris Pro having 128MB of memory dedicated to it.  

The reason for only considering an Iris or Iris Pro (because I know it will come up) is that I'm getting a macbook pro.  My current macbook pro is dying (google early 2011 macbook pro gpu failure).  SO.  I'm going to be a tool and buy another laptop from a company that is obviously unreliable.  I can't decide if the 13inch with the Iris or 15inch with the Iris Pro is right for me.

I don't game a whole lot anymore, but I do want the capability.   For example, lately I've been using the Dolphin emulator for my Wii games.  The last MMO I played was FFXIV.  

Does anyone here play FFXIV with an Iris or Iris Pro?  Or use the Dolphin with an Iris or Iris Pro?

 

THANK YOU!

If the goal of getting nicer graphics is to play games, I'd dismiss both out of hand as being obviously bad options.  They're both Intel integrated graphics.  They also come with extremely high monitor resolutions, and that will add a ton of load on very weak graphical chips.  As a quick comparison, they have 160 shaders; AMD's current top end integrated graphics has 512, while both AMD and Nvidia offer discrete video cards with over 2800.  Nvidia will even sell you a tablet with 192 shaders.

If you need a Mac but want to play games, you'd be better off getting a cheaper Mac together with a dedicated gaming rig with sensible gaming hardware.  The combination of two machines will actually be cheaper than getting a single MacBook Pro with Iris Pro graphics.

Or you could just not get a Mac at all.  $2000 will buy you a very, very nice Windows laptop (or better yet, a desktop) for whatever you want, unless it's something that requires Mac OS X.  Is there some reason why you're set on a Mac?

My last mac was my first.  I never had to worry about a virus and the system never crashed.  It was a lot smoother than windows.  And I just like how OS X is designed.  I don't miss windows at all, but I've never used Windows 8.

I was looking at the refurbished macbooks, as opposed to the brand new ones.  So I'm not spending 2K.  

HELLO!

I'm debating about whether I should get a new laptop with an Iris or Iris Pro.  I can find benchmarks for both GPUs on separate pages.  What I can't find, which would be helpful, is an article that compares the Iris and Iris Pro.  From what I can find, the Iris and Iris Pro are the same card with the exception of the Iris Pro having 128MB of memory dedicated to it.  

The reason for only considering an Iris or Iris Pro (because I know it will come up) is that I'm getting a macbook pro.  My current macbook pro is dying (google early 2011 macbook pro gpu failure).  SO.  I'm going to be a tool and buy another laptop from a company that is obviously unreliable.  I can't decide if the 13inch with the Iris or 15inch with the Iris Pro is right for me.

I don't game a whole lot anymore, but I do want the capability.   For example, lately I've been using the Dolphin emulator for my Wii games.  The last MMO I played was FFXIV.  

Does anyone here play FFXIV with an Iris or Iris Pro?  Or use the Dolphin with an Iris or Iris Pro?

 

THANK YOU!

Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Enbysra

You missed the point to what exactly is disturbing. It has nothing to do with just "opinions," but has everything to do with intellectual and creative interests being lost, and by extension the future being of humanity being lost as well. This is even though I generally think in terms of "civilization" over just "humanity." 

 

See .. what is disturbing is that you think there is anything "disturbing" about mere entertainment.

"Future of being humanity"? really? In an entertainment product?

Games don't require creativity and intellectual interests because that is not what the audience want to waste some time having fun. And don't tell me you think having some "mindless fun" is the downfall of society.

 

Recreation is one of the three biggest decisions a person can make in their life.  The other two being diet and where he or she lives.

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Enbysra
Originally posted by Battlerock
Mmorpg - obsolete video game genre from the late 1990's and 2000's. Also known as the genre that f2p killed.

MMORPGs are far from being "killed." This just happens to be the dark age of the MMORPG.

Just because you are unhappy with the current state of the genre - doesn't make it dark age of MMORPGs.

The MMORPGs today are better than any previous games by far (you just have to take those nostalgia glasses off first to see clearly)

Yes EQ1 and UO and DAoC and SWG were amazing in their time - but its time to move on and embrace the new.

Yes the latest is certainly the greatest.  End sarcasm.

I define a MMORPG as the reverse of WOW and any game like it.
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