Trending Games | Magerealm | Continent of the Ninth Seal | Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn | Guild Wars 2

    Facebook Twitter YouTube
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,996,381 Users Online:0
Games:841  Posts:6,462,325
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Armored Warfare Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Bionic Marine Command Online Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blackguards 2 Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodborne Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chroma Squad Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Heart Online Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dying Light Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthlock: Festival of Magic Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Fable Legends Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Hand of Fate Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Immune Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Necropolis Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Nova Genesis Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Chronicles Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Coast Legends Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Trapped Dead: Lockdown Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utherous Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik Discussion Forums

All Posts by evianwater

All Posts by evianwater

16 Pages First « 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 » Last
304 posts found
Originally posted by eddieg50

or Tera or even Tor. I can only think it is because people are graphic worshipers or have some type of idealized thought about FF. Of course when we play these games it is only natural to compare them to others we have played.

     I am not saying that ff is a terrible game just bland, ie mediocre. Yes the graphics are much better than the years old Vanguard but the crafting, combat, freedom (zones) diplomacy (one of a kind) exploration value, do not come close to Vanguard. Even Tera-both games have generic quests and both have great graphics but the combat is light years ahead in Tera. Even Tor with its average mmo mechanics has a much better quest system and cut scenes.

    I guess what I am asking is How could this game be more popular than Vanguard-beats me? I am guessing it is because we are living in the "Latest and Greatest" generation I do understand the latest, but where is the Greatest?

Because Vanguard was terrible when it launched and still is ? That game was an epic failure, from all its bugs, to lack of content. 


Pretending this is all because of "graphics" is silly. FFXIV does bring some new concepts, but you forget that it all doesnt have to be "new" to be "good". 


People get so damn caught up in that right now "I want new features!" but games that do new things get reamed (SWTOR,TERA, Eq2...etc etc) Simple fact is...mmo players will never be happy.

Originally posted by Alamareth
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Angelxx
I didn't get any emails we were supposed to get on the 20. I've just entered the 18 digit Early Access code Amazon sent me after purchase, that was the only code I had (I had no 20 digit code some other people did). After entering it on this site, they gave me the Promotion Code (12 digits only). I had to redeem this code on my Playstation Network and the download started.

The rep pretty much was telling a bold face lie. A friend of mine that will be playing on Balmung had to point it out to me. She said if I was getting error 3 message to keep trying. After about 25+ tries it finally redeemed. Was also fortunate enough to get the NA code and not stuck with a EU code like some folks.

B1 to B3 went so well. But so far everything after it has been nothing but problematic.  I really hope they get it together. Because once you lose the people. It is very hard to get them back. ARR was their second chance. You piss people off anymore and there won't be a third chance.

The poster is clueless and inaccurately attacking Angelxx as a "rep".

I purchased the $29.99 retail package from Amazon today.  Amazon immediately sent me my confirmation code with a link to the redemption site.  I didn't get any "Error 3", it worked perfectly.  Upon entering the code I received my promotional redemption key, which also worked flawlessly.  The only part I don't know yet is if it all actually worked, although I see no indication to expect failure.

I also checked my account dashboard, FFXIV:ARR registered - 8/21.

This sounds about right for everything thats happened from Phase 4 to now :


Some people are brought to an absolute screeching halt, with little or no clear explanation of how to troubleshoot, what to do, or even where to get information.


Others have no problems what so ever.


Since your code from amazon worked from a pre-order today, I'm wondering if the older codes are what got screwed ? I mean I got my code back in July and I still can't register (error code 3) but game is listed as "EU" for me

Originally posted by falph

This is amazing, thank you.

How do they even have these problems ? This shit is all so convoluted. So 1.0 was unfinished, 2.0 is a great game, but crippled by extremely poor planning for launch ?


Why are there so many codes, so many ways to register, so little information on how to do it, and so many friggin account pages ?


If they couldn't handle multiple outlets for their game, they shouldn't have set it up to be sold through places like Amazon and Gamestop..etc


The overwhelming feeling of being second class to the Japanese customers is getting very frustrating too (now I know how EU players feel)


(I'm one of those people that is "registered" as an EU customer..despite being NA and using an 18 digit code..that was repeatedly sent back with Error 3 messages)

I have my pre-order code (they send it right after you pre-order) but I get an "Error 3" message, anyone else get that ?
I preordered in june or july and still dont have an early access code...anyone have this problem ? (from

I have a major problem with "guns" being in high-fantasy MMOs, and I blame WoW for the growing usage of them. Even primitive guns don't make sense. 


Ninja's on the other hand..they fit just fine. Not sure why anyone would be so against it. I'd be happy for EQN not to be so strictly Euro-high fantasy and include other elements like they did with DoN and a few things in already have monks that are most definitely not "European"

Am I the only one who found it wierd that they linked guns and ninjas ? You have one that starts in about 1400-1600 (depending on your usage of "gun") and another that is up to a two thousand years before guns.


They're so far apart when it comes to the question of "fitting" in high fantasy that it just didn't make sense.

Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by krulux

I've been reviewing and watching the Everquest Next reveal videos this morning (again).. and you know, actually enjoying all of the hype! 

As I am enjoying myself I noticed the number of thumbs up vs. the thumbs down on each video and the general flavor of the comments as such.


Well, the legion has spoken.  Overwhelmingly, the thumbs up and general comments are proof... EQN is being accepted by the general masses. 

The running thumb count for the channel is:

Thumbs Up - 6416

Thumbs Down - 305


Best up-voted comment:

  • David Georgeson - "What do you guys think? Do you like it?"

    Someone from? the audience - "TAKE MY MONEEY!!"





Of the 6416 I believe we have about 16 of them posting here.

Of the 305 I believe we have 298 of them posting here. forums are a haven for negativity. Just like at the venom with which people talk about SWTOR, GW2, WoW, Everquest 2...etc (In other words all of the current most successful and profitable games out there).


You'd think no one plays any of these games anymore.

Originally posted by pvpirl


Originally posted by bingbongbros
Alrighty the naysayers and trolls have found there way in.  Let me see here...



- No Levels/Horizontal Progression

- Voxel built world/fully destructable

- Minecraft building style ability throughout Norrath

- 8 starting classes, up to 40 interchangeable advanced classes

- Permanent changes to the world via Rally Calls (PQ's), described as being the lore of the game as you shape the world.

- Layered world, able to break through to deeper parts of the planet.

- Factions that matter, like in EQ1. KOS to certain towns/guards


I could go on, but with a starting list like this what else do you people want? Set aside the character models, and set aside the limited hotbar.  WHAT ELSE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT!


And how the hell can you still call this a themepark?


I said this in another thread and I'll say it here. A sandbox means freedom, not being able to literally dig in the sand. Georgeson and Co. went to great lengths to mention how one could not negitively impact rallying calls, how one could not in essence act as a counterpart to the "Heroic" and virtuous image the devs envision all of the players opining to represent. I can't be a healer or tank, my role in combat is relegated to DPS, and despite the patchwork answers to these questions given at SOE live, your advancement and achievement will be tied directly to DPS contribution.

"Play your way, as long as it is doing DPS, and following the storyline" isn't a Sandbox.

Seriously, for sake of argument, remove the voxels and currently-empty promises of storybricks (which two of the most acclaimed sandboxes, UO and SWG had neither of) would EQN still be a sandbox? No. It wouldn't. It's a chassis of minecraft built to carry mechanical parts from MOBA titles, coupled with what was the latest and greatest and trendiest combat system at that time in EQN's development, GW2, without waiting to see how that system panned out.

Everything in EQN hinges on middleware. Unproven, and currently non-functioning middleware.


I was hoping you'd post in this thread. 


Your definition of a "Sandbox" seems a bit like anarchy, not a game. Remember UO ? Attack anything in a city and you insta-died. Steal..and "Guards!" insta-die, try to build a house ? Sorry too much shit is already here, or sorry too close to a dungeon, sorry too close to a city. Remember SWG ? Where they had missions for cash, where you were limited again by borders ? Where there was definitive "level" progression on planets ?


All of these sandboxes had structure, just because you could play around in the center doesn't mean they were free.


Also, you keep bringing up this idea that "Everyone is a dps" yet..we saw a tank, combat is far from finished (this game isn't even alpha) and yet you know exactly what the combat style will be. There's no way in hell anyone got that from either the reveal or the classes panel. The closest thing I recall was when someone compared combat to GW2 in the classes panel and asked if you could be support they got a round-about answer about "Well everyone has to do some kind of damage"

They've also alluded to their being tanks, but not npcs that will sit and hit one dude because he has anger procs or Terror of Thule over and over while getting ass-raped by 30 rogue,wizards, and rangers(teehee).



Originally posted by Jetrpg
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by Jetrpg
Originally posted by tkreep
UO and SWG did fine without levels

Odd i played SWG a lot and it had vertical character progression driven by exp ie levels. They were Vertical not horizontial this is the topic being disscussed not if their is an arbitrary term used called levels.


OP is right mmorpgs are made by their effective use of Vertical content .. not the other way around.

Really what level were you in SWG?

The last character i made was a level 120ish SP Commando/TKA and you?  Wow i played the game you?

You played the game post NGE...they added levels with NGE. Before NGE they had different sort of levels where you'd apply exp to skills of your choice for different classes. (Yes that still counts as levels..just with more player input)

Originally posted by tkreep
UO and SWG did fine without levels

UO had levels..they were called skills


SWG had levels (they even had exp) they were called skills.



I personally do prefer the SWG model, where you can pick and choose your skills and such in advancement trees and mix and match. EQN seems like it kind of has that..kind of.

Originally posted by ThomasN7
When all you have is a tech demo I don't think it was wise idea to show anyone without solid gameplay because first impressions are everything. SOE is their own worst enemy. Then again it wouldn't have mattered anyway, very few  like the art style and the GW2 style combat with only 8 skills per class. 

This is kind of how I feel..unless they are genuine about using the Roundtable to change the game. I'll believe that when they put something meaningful up there (like combat, classes, trinity, art style) instead of..."Do you like Ratonga?"

Originally posted by ThomasN7
When all you have is a tech demo I don't think it was wise idea to show anyone without solid gameplay because first impressions are everything. SOE is their own worst enemy. Then again it wouldn't have mattered anyway, very few  like the art style and the GW2 style combat with only 8 skills per class. 

Don't make assumptions. The vocal minority might not like the art style, but they picked it with good market research,


Also, the whole "8 skills" thing is the next phase of MMOs, Eq2 is stupid with how many skills you get, and its very difficult to balance. WoW has tons of just useless crap and a rotation of maybe 5 skills you use (that's being generous)


So the question became..all the fluff ? or just make it realistic.

Yeah, they really picked possibly the worst looking stylized character they could have in the looks just, so bad.
Originally posted by magickal32
I love how some people automatically condemn a game that is far from finished, and they have yet to try.  There are things I do like about Eqnext, and things I don't like, same with all games.  I think the "cartoony" graphics are a bonus.  I really don't see why so many people will hate on those type of graphics like that is what makes or breaks a game.  As long as the graphics aren't a total eyesore, gameplay is my primary concern.   I will reserve judgement for when I can actually try the game.

This is kind of the one has any idea how the game actually plays. It's all rampant speculation, and SOE needs to jump on it. They're aware of the comparisons to GW2 combat and have tried to stress while there are similarities it's not the same. That's kind of what its being condemned for most of all.

Thank you, can't friggin wait to play a monk-type class again.

I suppose it was all expected, I don't remember a time when there was ever as much positive reaction to anything here as the mounds of negativity.


I get the feeling that if Smedley saved a baby from a burning building people would say "He probably set the building on fire"


Or if EA donated millions to funding cancer research, people would opine "Yeah but you have to buy the Cure separately"




That said, to  what this post is actually about. I wanted to bring up a couple trends I've been noticing :


Everyone has their own opinion of what a sandbox is :

I mean literally EVERYONE, hell, some people see any structure at all as anti-sandbox. I don't understand what people expect..some of the descriptions I've seen or gripes about EQN would make UO or SWG seem like they werent sandbox games.


People are very paranoid about Landmark :


We all cry for a sandbox. We're literally given one to play in and the cries turn to "They're outsourcing development and making us do it!" or "It's too much like minecraft"


This should be a crafter's wetdream..but I suppose everyone is too focused on any idea of intellectual property (which considering you're using all of their tools and resources..would be very hard to argue, even down to textures)


The cartoony art-style :


Yes...I freaking hate it, I don't feel like it fits with the serious nature of EQ and it makes the game seem like a joke. That said, its still early and I can hope they alter things a little, its too late to change the style, but it can be toned down (The human female wasn't awful, most of the outrage is over Mufasa)


Also, bare in mind EQ2's art-style initially was very much the "clay-look" that we saw for EQN, so there is at least precedent in eq games for that.



Endless Speculation : 

The reveal was kinda crap, we learned very little about the game. This has led people to run around screaming doom and gloom. It's frustrating from both sides, but hopefully that will change as more information is released.

Absolutely would make no damn sense.


Not to mention it's too damn "WoW" for me..WoW played fast and loose with the idea of high fantasy just to appeal to broader audience. 

Originally posted by pvpirl

the reveal killed the very modest expectations I had for EQN.

Heres a gaming using middleware as the groundbreaking features, that placed so much emphasis on nonfactor gimmick features like SOEmote that the graphic style was specifically crafted to accommodate it much to the determent of the fanbases' reaction.

Voxel-based destructibility is a novelty and for a game that centered its' off-putting class system on AI, which wasn't demonstrable at the reveal, coupled with a combat-style from a game which did poorly as a result. Sandbox means freedom, not literally being able to dig up sand.

So, after outsourcing the content to the playerbase, and utilizing middleware for the meat of the game, all they had left was the Everquest IP, world, and lore, which they summarily eviscerated for the sake of simplification of content and market-research i.e. 1 starting zone, 1 elf race, smart ogres.

I love that you have so much more knowledge about a game not even in Alpha than everyone else +1 for creativity :) 

16 Pages First « 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 » Last