DUH. obviously If they were banned it was for violation of the eula. Botting or w/e , good riddance. Useless post however.

 Not to be mean, but I really don't care to listen to a bunch of kids or "Hardcore" dbags on a regular basis. Keeping it as it is now where i can selectively go to vent works for me. I mean seriously, its already quite evident with the low amount of pug raids I join and get on vent with  ....that is how it would be . Given, it isn't like that all the time .... but I just don't care for it.

 Hell ... for that matter I doubt many really want to hear me talk ...

Originally posted by Lork

Originally posted by Legato89

Originally posted by Lork

I got an email and I played the game for 10 minutes 3 years ago.

 

Good to know you give games enough time before judging them.

Oh, so you assume I didn't enjoy the game. Good to know you don't think before you judge.

What else would one assume from your ever so long post.

Originally posted by darklordofsp

of course cost would come into this

money is always No.1 in buisness

i find it strange how Australia always misses out on almost everything!

Australia is totaly uptodate with technology, so there are tonnes of gamers and stuff yet America chooses not to care about us one bit.

Like for eg; i use to play Last Chaos

All thier bloody GOOD events started at like 1-6am in the morning (in Australia) and its almost immpossible for me to stay up at those times and since people from other countries are missing out on those events they fall further and further behind and begin to lose interest.

They dont consider extening the time even a little so more players cant be online during the events. Why don't American companies try to invest a little in Australia. I don't get it :(

and the more countries the events on this site will be availabe for, the more people will come online and perhaps join in the forums.

how many people just join this site only for the events and not once talk on the forums, i wonder how many 0.o

 It has nothing to do with America not liking you as a country . Laws are a major reason.

 Meh, Im in no way saying Aion is the greatest thing on earth. But alot of what you said leads me to believe you may be a vet but not a very good one. Money is hard to come by? Maybe If you don't know or care how to work an auction house, or for that matter just find what is selling. I've had loads more than I need to buy armor and even level crafting (real grind).

 Leveling is a grind? I found 1 to 10 to be fairly pleasant as well. Of course like you said it is run of the mill as far as that goes. From that point on its not too bad, but I might agree with you that you may have to grind a bit If you want better xp. Although this game may be nothign special, I'd say its still a pretty good game, will only get better with time to add mroe content.

Originally posted by brostyn

Originally posted by Goronian

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by Gameloading

Actually I have played WoW. Pretty silly assumption you made there.

Considering everything you typed was the biggest bunch of bollocks ever, the assumption was valid, and actually still stands.

I've played WoW. Have those two battlechests to prove it. I can sign under his every word. WoW is not really thought provoking, unless you're the first one doing the content.

 

And I've played every major MMO. They are all like that. The one exception being DAoC's RvR system.

 

I really hate people who think to play a MMO you have to be some sort of rocket scientist. My 6 year old son plays EQ and EQ2. Its not that hard.

 You would be correct, but not all of them are a cake walk either and imo WoW is just that.

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by Gameloading

Actually I have played WoW. Pretty silly assumption you made there.

Considering everything you typed was the biggest bunch of bollocks ever, the assumption was valid, and actually still stands.

 From a 5 year vet of the game, I think he is pretty spot on. Great game don't get me wrong, but challenging in any aspect other than some possible achievements it is not. Of course I have seen some pretty poor players in my day, so who knows ...

Originally posted by bloobers

Gents.

I didn't say, I hate WoW. The game is great and I like it. My post is just a result from an observation, which I would like to discuss and find out, if it is only on the German server Destromath.

The meaning of an MMORPG for is, and please correct me if I am wrong (which I am sure you will), based on a purely and solid social aspect. Like:

a) Interacting with each other
b) To play together, dive into adventures and find time to help others.
c) To play with an avatar of a real person and to understand how the person behind the avatar influences his behavior.
d) To live and breathe the lore.

..and so on..

Now currently, I have the feeling, that the social is in depression and the we experience the boom of "gear and achievement." I am not my avatar anymore, I am just a number against a benchmark.

And this, this is such a problem already in the real world, where we all are just numbers against a benchmark: Performance aggregation

Regards
-Bloobers

 Unfortunately raid games revolve around performance. It's the nature of the beast, and some unfortuantely have little to no patience with people who also do not understand basic fundamentals on how the game works or their own class for that matter. So at least when a raid forms with people who are geared there is a decent chance you can at least hit the average of what is needed on dps.

 Being placed on ignore or being belittled really isn't necessary but we don;t have both sides of the story to know why either. And let's face it , some people just don't have very good people skills on how to let you know why you wold nto be able to go and what you need to do to go in the future.

Originally posted by Euphoryk

This trend of using Hitler references as satire needs to stop.

There is nothing comedic or amusing about the leader of the third reich, a man who gave the orders to slaughter millions of innocent people, for no reason other than his own insane ego trip.

Seriously, I know it is meant to be funny and lighthearted (yes, I've seen the videos), but it really isn't appropriate at all.

 Its highly appropriate. It would be inappropriate If you took it and showed it to camp victims and other few circumstances. Most people think its funny, some don't. But thats life, not everyone will agree.

Originally posted by chrisel

Originally posted by pussaykat

Basicly you don't want to grind, you don't want to team and you want to hit max level.

This sounds an awful lot like wow, why not play that instead. It might be more suited to your expectations.

 

I have played WoW for many years since release. It is THE best MMORPG, but it burned me out. I will not return to that game. To me, the MMO would some which could offer alot of world PvP. Like the early days of Anarchy Online, and/or just like WoW was in beginning.

Right now I fell WoW is too overwhelming, it just has TOO much stuff to get in every corner; you must hardcore that game to get anywhere at all. When I play it, I get obsesses, my mood changes; I basicly turns into a totally different åerson. There are no room for that in my life anymore.

Maybe just as well that LOTRO is without any pvp...

  Well If you like a game enough , it will have the same exact effect on you. I'm playing Aion now myself, dumped WoW finally, not sure If I'd ever go back ... not into having a game charge me a sub and extra for fluff in a shop.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Bama1267

 I see where Cryptic is probably dropping the ball with their beta deal, but you have no problem with a company charging a subscription and having an in game shop as well? And I don't really care how miniscule the items are that they are selling, It all should be part of the game. think If I had my pick ...Id let em sell w/e beta' they wanted as long as I knew I could pay 15 bucks a month and have a shot at EVERYTHING designed for the game without having to pay extra.

 Interesting how this bothers you , but paying more money for in game content doesn't.

Not sure if you meant any of that for me personally, but I can tell you (and you can check it) that I was probably the loudest voice on this site decrying that cash shop (or any other). Same for WoW's recent fall from 'grace'.

No, its for the editor.

 I see where Cryptic is probably dropping the ball with their beta deal, but you have no problem with a company charging a subscription and having an in game shop as well? And I don't really care how miniscule the items are that they are selling, It all should be part of the game. think If I had my pick ...Id let em sell w/e beta' they wanted as long as I knew I could pay 15 bucks a month and have a shot at EVERYTHING designed for the game without having to pay extra.

 Interesting how this bothers you , but paying more money for in game content doesn't.

You come off as a child or a douche from your conversation.

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by McAvoy

Guild Wars is not an MMO. It is a Co-op RPG. Get it right or get out.

 

this statement is incredibly funny, specially when you realise that you have absolutely no power to "kick me out" from wherever you think we are in.

Guild Wars is a mmo. yes I agree with the OP that its the best one ever made so far. but thats just my opinion. if you dont want to respect that opinion you can always "get out".

... still not an MMO no matter how many times people try to say it is. Look it up.

  Meh, you can do it now via vent. Don't really see much of a difference. Besides ... world pvp in wow is a joke, like it would have much if any effect overall in the game. Most of the time the other faction already knows if your coming to there capital city regardless of chat or spies.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by pojung

@ Zorndorf

You described a one-dimensional competition base. A sliding scale that goes up when you win, down when you lose. This is the definition of a grind: when the result (not reward) is nothing. You win a title, which does nothing. It gives you gear, epeen or whatever, but it is void of 'meaning'. Unless gear and epeen *is* the meaning you attempt to define.

 

Apparently, a ladder based competition has NOTHING to do with grind.

A ladder based competition - like the ELO rating in Chess - is ALL about winning the competition and get the titles and the championships. You loose a fight: you go DOWN, you win a fight you go UP.

Like I said a Furious Gladiator title is spread uniquely over 17 different Realms on our Blackout Battlegroup.

Those few players (ONE team) that got that unique title are the REAL PvP champs among us.

You do it for the competition, for the title, for the very very rare Gladiator flying mount.

---- > That's the way our own society is ticking my friend.

Winning in sports and games and have a rating vs à vs other people ...is THE way people want to game and do sports for ... and WATCH sports for.

That's the name of the game. That's the name of ANY "meanigful" competition.

Not owning some pixeled ground for 24 hours.

 

 

 I guess thats where people differ in how they want to pvp. Soem consider it a sport, some consider it war and want to play it as a war. Personally Im not here for sport ...Im here to play a game. Territorial control, destroying real player controled bases or seiging castles is what im interested in.

Originally posted by Glazed

I didn't know Dragon Age: Origins was single player. I guess I assumed too fast. Is Torchlight single player?

Yes Torchlight is also single player. I tried the demo and it was great though. Should be a multi player up in teh distant future. If you liked Diablo 2 I would guess you would like Torchlight.

 Meh, it all depends on the person. Only you know what you like. All the games listed have tons of people playing them, so all are obviously pretty good. Personally I think GW sucks , wasn't even close to what I was looking for in a game. Dragon Age is a single player game, haven't played it yet. ANd teh other 2 were both good, but If you read anythign on them ...they both have a grind. Im currently playing Aion but it isn't much differnt than any other game out there, just some different scenery which is nice for a change.

Originally posted by jugface

Hello,

I was wondering, will cataclysm include graphical updates?

When approx will it be released? 

Can I save a character I deleted possibly over a year ago?

 

 No ETA, but you can guess a year to a year and a half. Doubt you can save a character you deleted over a year ago, but you could try and say you got hacked and just resubbed and it was gone If its worth that much to ya. Who knows, maybe they woudl do something.

Originally posted by Boltonsquad

I disagree with what your saying about WoW's item shop. They dont sell anything what will effect how you character plays, Gear, Weapons, Potions etc etc, until that day ill keep subbing. 

 You are correct. However alot of people play the game for more than just combat. Those players however few in number got the shaft.