Originally posted by wolfing

I prefer beta access and a few days headstart with pre-ordering

This really is my hope, too.

Originally posted by justamemory

is it Q4 yet? ;_;

Well said.

Hyanmen speaks the truth. Skills CAN cross over from one class to another, but that does not mean they will be fully effective. To my knowledge, there is no official word on this--only NDA leaks. And given the videos and images out there...yeah, Hyanmen is just right and that is all.

Looking good!

Originally posted by Alberel

Just to point out, you'll have selected your weapon/class before you even enter combat since that's the only time you can change it.

Good catch. I was paraphrasing the Famitsu description translated here, and I accidentally read it wrong. For sure, you can only change weapons when in passive mode. Technically, that should mean you could do that before a pull.

Originally posted by Alberel

 

Also you mention VG's focus on reaction based skills... FFXIV does have its own variants of these. I remember an interview mentioned that blocking will be an active ability rather than just a matter of chance. Not saying it'll be at all similar to VG but it does have elements of that sort of system as well.

Good point. The Pugilist Weapon Skill Jarring Strike says "Can only be executed after evading an attack."

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Originally posted by KupoKupopo

One quick question, are you sure this is how it works?  I was under the impression that your action bar fills first and then you select your ability.  Just like how the ATB system works in most of the single player FF games.

I had to go and recheck this, and yes, what I said first was incorrect. 

Your action bar fills automatically, and when it is full you only need to click on the skill you wish to do and it'll go off.

It also seems that in the case of spells, there is a normal (rather short) casting time along with the action bar cooldown. 

To go a step further, here is my rephrasing of what Hyanmen is saying:

1. Target mob
2. Select weapon, which selects class
3. Pick skill or spell to use
4. Action bar charges up like ATB in Final Fantasy console games
5. Additionally, an Effectiveness Gauge charges. You can use the skill as soon as the Action Gauge charges, but the skill is more effective if you let the Effectiveness Gauge fill, too.
6. Finally, consider position. SE makes a big deal about how combatants are positioned in FFXIV.

Originally posted by Xerxies2000

I think you have it backwards. It was Whiting's (Board of Directors) motion that was denied.

What a mess.

 

Okay. Walk me through this. I do not know law.

The document says:

IT IS ORDERED denying The Board’s Motion to Re-Urge the Motion for Relief from Plaintiff’s Corporate Takeover and “Removal” of Director Whiting; and Request for Emergency Hearing. 

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED denying The Board’s Second Request for Emergency Hearing.

The Board is Whiting (the Defendant)? He is asking for Relief from Plaintiff's Corporate Takeover (Deering's removal of him)? And McGill (one of the co-defendants) asked for an Emergency Hearing to prevent the machines from being carted off? And all of that was DENIED.

If you have me straight now, that is GOOD news for once. Even if it is only moderately good news. If I have it right now, I wish I could change the thread name.

 I am not the best legal mind, so let's discuss this here. First, the court document, which is public record, can be found here.

It looks as though the court is denying the attempt to remove Whiting and further investigating whether all those harassment charges were legal stall tactics.

Also, I noted that the motion to have an emergency hearing regarding "The lockout and removal of the game source codes and assets and equipment" is ordered as DENIED on the grounds that the motion came after the initial hearing and "The Motions cite absolutely no legal rule, statute, or authority to grant the requested relief."

It sounds like to me that Whiting wins and CME lost access to all SGW assets. Am I reading this right? If so, consider SGW finally dead.

Originally posted by loveclone

The staff at CME/Firesky has been drastically cut, leaving a tiny development team to work on SGR and man the office.

Where does this come from?

 Maybe Aaron can get a comment out of CME/Firesky. I know he ran the story that the Ch 11 filing was some ploy by Whiting to delay the ousting. Now the court finds that he will not be removed. This would likely mean that the restructuring will NOT take place AND:

Firesky=CME=Gary Whiting=MMOGULS=never a penny of my money

Whoa! Cheyenne Mountain Games is one of the plaintiffs in that games AGAINST Whiting and MMOGULS.

edited to note that Gunther is listed on the docket as a female. 0.o

 If Aaron ever gets his site working, he may have interesting information here. It is my hope that he didn't just kiss ass but asked questions that matter--like whether or not MMOGULS members will be getting SGR.

Awesome response, Adam1902. I wonder if those inaccuracies are errors by the author or things that have changed in the game since November 2008? It doesn't matter. It sounds as though someone should hire you to review the game!

Poor writer could have saved a load of time by simply reading the same review I read back in 2008. The author of that article seemed to better address the complaints I have seen in this thread. For instance, he said the music is nice (like many in this thread) but the sound effects are lame (like the MMORPG reviewer). I have not played the game, though, so I cannot say if either is an accurate review.

Originally posted by shepx22 

He added that while Stargate Resistance is being made, "we continue to work towards SGW's release."
 

Don't confuse this statement designed for the press with the concept of real work being done on the game. Work towards release likely means raising money rather than any programming.

Originally posted by yellowperil

SG:R...doesnt fit into the business model

I agree with this. But for now, I maintain the position that any money that goes to any ONE of the companies Whiting runs has a chance to help fund MMOGULS. I refuse to help make that happen.

Even if every penny gleaned from SG:R gets reinvested in the production of SGW, the launch of SGW WILL support MMOGULS. Again, I ain't willing to contribute to that!

Originally posted by orgill3

I spoke with MGM - I just asked one of their legal minions about MMOGULs and Stargate.  They assured me that MMOGUL's is not tied to Stargate or CME, despite their false advertising to the contrary.  The recently amended CME license with MGM specifically prohibits any relationship with MMOGULs.  MGM has specific letters from MMOGULs and their attorneys indicating that MMOGUL has no relationsip with CME or any kind.

Lets kill the MMOGULs discussion - it supports MMOGUL's - they are trying to make it seem like they have some tie or rights to Stargate - it just aint so.

You'll forgive me if I ask you to produce evidence to support this claim--evidence that would make me VERY happy. In the meantime, I am forced to go by what Shane Hensley has said:

Gary Whiting does own MMOGULS and CME, and if he makes money on one it's certainly his perogative to support the other with *his share* if he decides to do so....Moguls did originally show SGW and other internal projects at their presentations...an MLM gaming site is not illegal and no different than Amway or Avon from a business perspective....some of our artists did a few pieces for their website at one point...We also had some people do some freelance work for them way back in March

Thus, I continue with my stance, which I will share with any and all who enter this forum: MMOGULS is real, and if you subscribe to SGW (assuming it ever releases) or buy Stargate: Resistance (assuming it ever releases), you are funding MMOGULS.

Originally posted by Remon255

I just think you all frame Gary for something thats been blowen up on the internet.

Greetings! It seems you are new to this discussion. I'd invite you to visit the SGW section of the MMORPG forums and read as many threads as possible. Aside from one member occasionally spamming "funny" pics he makes, the discussion there is about the facts. There is no framing here. We have shown over and over again that Gary Whiting is the guy in charge of both Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment and MMOGULS. It wasn't until the post by Shane Hensley I linked to that CME would admit. Instead they used deferral tactics to try to distance themselves from the situation while simultaneously making the media outlet that exposed the MMOGULS story (TenTonHammer.com) look bad.

I appreciate the respectful way you call for people to not make wild accusations here. Check out the threads with the evidence of business registrations and court cases on government websites and then let me know if you think this is a frame job or blown out of proportion. :)

Originally posted by Remon255

CME has and is still denying that MMOGULS have something to do with them.

But see my questions to Shane Hensley (current CME president) here and his answers here.

Originally posted by PEGShane

2) MMOGULS was never the official plan for anything directly related to CME. Gary Whiting does own MMOGULS and CME, and if he makes money on one it's certainly his perogative to support the other with *his share* if he decides to do so. Whether you care for him or not, Gary has put everything he owns into the company and is the most passionate person in the world about SGW.

Moguls did originally show SGW and other internal projects at their presentations. I know because some of them went up on Youtube. But they also showed World of Warcraft and other games. We at CME asked them to stop showing our projects because we felt it would be seen exactly as you've seen it, and it would imply an official relationship since Gary was involved with both. But an MLM gaming site is not illegal and no different than Amway or Avon from a business perspective, as far as I know. And if it ultimately proved to be a "pyramid scheme" rather than a legitimate MLM, those behind it would be prosecuted, I'm sure.

How it all works I'm not privvy to--MLMs are definitely not my cup of tea either--and as I said before we have no official involvement with them whatsoever. We don't know the people who work there and they don't know us.I beileve some of our artists did a few pieces for their website at one point, but that was before I was involved with that group, and those people are gone now. We also had some people do some freelance work for them way back in March, I think.

MMOGULS is real, and if you subscribe to SGW (assuming it ever releases) or buy Stargate: Resistance (assuming it ever releases), you are funding MMOGULS.