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Originally posted by antarek

WOW was way over 1 millions subs after its 1st year (more than 4 millions subs). Look at the charts from MMOData.

beyond mmo data source - i have these sources

April 2005, WOW claimed 1.5 mill

June 2005, 2 million

July 2005, WOW claimed 1.5 mill  in Asia contrast to 2mill US/EU

July 21, 2005   Blizzard's China Success Spawns 3.5 Million WoW Userbase

Jan 2006,  5 million announcement  -- before Burning Crusade released

Originally posted by KissThaRing

Things change man, but things have improved; if you choose to see it. I remember playing games on a 56k modem and getting pissed when 10 meg patch was released. lol. It was just a different era, those late 90's - early 2000's was a very budding and special era for games. u just find one that suits you - don't worry about popularity, just find one that is fun for you and stick with it.

i played EQ on a 56k modem for 5 years,  from 1999 to 2004

-- took forever for internet Cable to be available to my New Hampshire town


EQ raiding with 70 players on a 56k modem was not fun with all the player spell effects,

needless to say i had all visual effects OFF

Originally posted by Arclan

Originally posted by JeroKane
Appearently you started with WoW and so never experienced what REAL Group content and social interaction is!...

JeroKane is 100% correct. The OP's desire for solo content probably has a lot more to do with his first MMO being a solo-friendly game.

Plenty of people I met in my first MMO (EQ) were married; and a I knew several husband/wife teams, and sometimes their children too. OP is simply biased against group content. And by group content, I don't mean dungeon-finders and lobbies. No offense at all to the OP and glad he's enjoying life.


pre WOW, mmos were not "solo friendly" 

(or nongamer friendly for that matter )

Originally posted by furbans
Originally posted by doodphace

In what world did WoW have 14 million subs?

Earth, at WoW's peak of subs... granted it'll nor any MMO will ever reach that number again though since the market is way too diverse now.

i think 12 million was the peak - i have seen no blizzard sources for 14 million

no other sub mmo has made over 5 million anyhow

i still like mmos

but i've gone back to old loves of pen and paper RPGs and boardgaming

Originally posted by AlBQuirky

I dreamed of better graphics than EQ had. Their Luclin models were tons better.

I dreamed of more quests, never imagining how that would come about :)

I dreamed of gameplay that did not require grouping. I should be careful what I wish for, eh?

my wishes from yesteryear  (pre 2004)

- better mob AI

- less dependence on gear grinds

- more team activities  (beyond grinding mobs)

- team quests   (public quests did happen later)

- better ways to group with friends, regardless of their level


mmos being solo friendly is the worst trend to happen

i miss the days when groups were required to be effective  (with exception to a few solo classes)


i recognize that LFG is no fun but it's a lesser evil to everyone soloing to level

Originally posted by OoMpAlOmPaZ

Horizon's is still going fyi.

it is still running but the game that released was a pale shadow of that it was intended to be


what article author said about this list:

There have been MMOGs that I feel should have been canceled before they entered live service.


Horizons  (now called Istaria) is worth being on this list


the game was premarketed with being able to play a dragon!  and dynamic PVE events

before launch, the lead game designer, David Allen, was kicked out of the company and game was redesigned


Originally posted by DMKano

Instead of body modification XL decided to focus more on gameplay features - right decision IMO.

UO, EQ1, DAoC - all of these gen1 games had minimal player customization - but yet they delivered in what *really* counts - gameplay.


Black Desert has ridiculous character customization - maybe wait for that?

agree, gameplay is more important

Dark and Light belongs on this list

and maybe Vanguard   (pre-release, Microsoft dumped Brad)


Microsoft also dumped Asherson's Call 2  (post release)

i dont think EQOA belongs on this list

there were 3 mmos on the console 10 years ago .. EQOA was one of them

Originally posted by Infantryonline

Dont mind my spam but some of this stuff is too amazing.

thanks for sharing the scifi style Landmark screenshots

Originally posted by jusomdude


Starcraft was my favorite RTS - i'd like to see it as a mmo

Originally posted by Bladestrom

GW1 @ 2 removal of endless gear power ups + shared resource nodes + rewards for rezzing peeps, no trinity (latter had positives and minus - but above all it's different)

agree with the original guildwars


optional Level scaling

- first implemented in COH w sidekicks,  another variant is in EQ2, called mentoring


appearance gear

- first seen in EQ2 in 2007 and now seen in many games


Public Quests

- first seen in warhammer in 2008

Originally posted by lizardbones

I don't think gamers in general are opposed to the idea of many people playing video games, but I think many of them are opposed to the idea of people who are not gamers directing the market on styles and trends in gaming because of the money that non-gamers are spending on video games.

no question there are money grabs,

but that's always been the case   (example movie tie ins - w books / games / candy )


online gaming is more popular than it's ever been thanks to social media sites like facebook, Browser games, and the emergence of mobile gaming like Candy Crush.

but i haven't seen this nongamer popularity impact new pc games  (or maybe my head is in the sand )


disclaimer -

I'm not counting adding new features to existing games, like WOW Pokemon battles

even EQ had the minigame gems  (a derivative of TETRIS) for downtime 10 years ago


nongamers are not going to fork over $40.00 for a videogame unless its something like The Sims
Originally posted by CasaFranky

Sadly the MoP addon is not included.
I would really like to try monk.
But i wont buy the addon or resub.

on my inactive WOW account,

i was given a different promotional email from Blizzard last week regarding MOP

but...  a resub is required

reading the comments at this link,  it seems like MOP has been added to lapsed accounts

I'm willing to challenge being called a Gamer (regardless of what you play or platform)

will not lose its negative stigma with the mass population of adults


videogames to me are like comic collecting  (but a bigger market)

they both have billions of fans


but i still get the same strange looks from adult nongamers

when i tell them i'm a gamer  -- which is equivalent to me telling the same people

I play Dungeons and Dragons !  


I'm happy with my recreational choices, i dont care that most adults cannot relate


related article

To declare that you spent a weekend playing video games to some would make it seem as though you’d partaken in a slovenly and perhaps slightly shameful activity, but saying you spent a weekend watching sports, it would seem to almost everyone that you had committed your weekend to an entirely socially acceptable activity, even though the difference between these two activities is not all that great.

In fact you could argue that if you had spent your weekend playing video games as opposed to watching sports you would probably have gotten more mental exercise. However, when these are the prejudices held against people who would play video games on a regular basis, it’s understandable how those who have dedicated a large portion of their lives to video games haven’t exactly been met with praise and admiration.

Originally posted by lizardbones

You don't spend billions of dollars on a sub-culture.

guess it depends on your definition of subculture


I think console gamers are a subculture -- and thats a billion dollar industry


another lucrative subculture - Trading Card Games

Konami’s Yu-Gi-Oh! $26 Billion in Sales in North America


related to her conclusion

(Videogames) are becoming simply another medium—one with no inherent bias towards any group. In twenty years, it may sound as old-fashioned to call someone a “gamer” as it is to call someone a “moviegoer”.


disagree with her conclusion, 

a common phrase with boardgaming meetups are "go unplugged" - play boardgames

implying a negative bias with video games


videogames will always be a subculture  (as will be boardgaming)

in my biased opinion, from 40 years ago,

Pong in the 70s had a similar subculture to anyone playing WOW or Grand Theft Auto 5


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