Originally posted by erictlewis
I just hope that soe does not let him come back to eq2 or to vangaurd.   We got enough stuff wrong with our game without letting him back in. 

Eh? The guys been at the helm of both eq2 and rift, when they were at thier peaks in popularity.

Coincedence ? who knows ?

My geuss is he's come back to SOE for EQ2 next. or he's at some big MMO coming soon.

In his bio it says he's been involved with over a billion dollars of MMO revenue.

Ask 100 people what a sandbox is and get 100 different answers.

A sandbox can most certainly have thempark elements like quests/dungeons even raids.

The key to a sandbox is having degradable/destroyable items and a robust crafting system, this in turn creates a supply/demand ecconomy where player interaction is essential.

The key to a sandbox is also having an open world area of the game where pvp can take place usually with a reason to be there i.e resources.

And thus begins the endless cycle of territorial control and crafting supply and demand

A sandbox has nothing to do with non instanced player housing or terrain deformation like i've read in some threads. Just look at EVE which has neither of these things.

The ability to effect the game world comes primarily from player interactions, and the stories that arise from said interactions.

Originally posted by Greyface
I think it just shows how much pent-up demand there is for a game like this.

Yeah i can appreciate the fact that people want to see industry/Genre grow, so Kudos to you all.

But once all the dust and hype settles, you're in for a damn long wait lol.

I'd rather just buy the game in 2016, if the reviews are good. 

I'm just amazed people would pledge for a game that's due out in 3 years time, lol 2016.

A lot can happen in 3 years.

I missed the voting, Was Defiance in the list of most anticipated ?

Because it should be.

Originally posted by gobla

Crafting is definitely a cornerstone of a traditional sandbox, along with PvP.

Crafters supply equipment and items of all kinds, from weapons and armor to constructions, to the PvPers to fight with. These can be destroyed to create a constant demand for crafting.

PvPers fight over territory containing valuable resources for the crafters to make things with. These are used up in crafting to create a constant demand for the territories containing the materials.

Those two demands interacting with each other is generally what creates the dynamic player-driven world of a sandbox.

That being said, I'm sure it's not the only way to create a dynamic player-driven world. But it's one way that's been proven to work.

Youv'e just described my exact definition of a sandbox, and basically the same as EVE, which is what any new sanbox game should have at the core level. 

The number 1 rule of sandboxes is... "Items must be able to be destroyed".

Every single item must either degrade on use, or be completely destroyed from either A NPC or a Player / Environment.

This in turn creates an ecconomy, and prevents market inflation.

It creates player jobs/crafting/trading etc etc.

I think the number 2 rule should be "Every item in the game can also be crafted"

Just like eve online

I loved EQ2, played it for 5 years.

Games don't last forever, they eventually get old and tired.

I would like to see todays MMO's last 5 years.

I thank Smedly for giving me 5 years of friendships and adventures, there's nothing more i want in an MMO than this.

Smedley also plays EVE Online in a nullsec corp, so i think he has some idea about Sandboxes, that and the fact that he created the fucking genre you are playing :)

Bring on EQNEXT.

Sedition sword of the bloodmoon from eq2.

Quest was epic

Originally posted by delete5230

I'll admit I've never really liked crafting in any mmo.

Anyway, I'm playing a Sylvari Necro. My crafting choices are Jeweler and Tailor.  Well finding material drops for both suck at least in the Sylvari area 1-15.

Tailor requires lots of Jute ( cloth ) No drops at all, in fact the only way to get Jute is by salvaging my replaced armor.  I asked my guild and they say yes, players are having a hard time finding Jute.  One recommended going to Queensdale and fighting Centaurs, ok but the drop rate is very low......YOU NEED LOTS OF JUTE.

Jeweler same thing you need lots of Pebbles......Well good luck.....I harvested three Pebbles so far and I'm level 15.

 

I just can't make anything of any value for my levels. Any suggestions?... because I'm ready to give up on this time consuming pain in the butt thing they call crafting !

Take your time, go out and kill some stuff, what's the rush ?

You'll level it eventually.

You'll never be competitive, as there are already lvl 80 crafters ready to corner the market,  so why rush ?

Originally posted by waterwizard

 

Yeah. I'll stay subbed to WAR. GW2 is just the pretty good pc game I bought to play every now and then. I don't feel like GW2 is ever going to be worth spending any more money on, so I don't plan on ever using the shop.

It must take quite a while to beat down the keep doors with only 10 people playing :P

I'm enjoying GW2, it's very polished, but i'll still be raiding in RIFT.

I'm in absolutley no rush to smash through the GW2 content, for the first time in ages i'm stopping to smell the roses.

Awesome game so far.

Playing at 2560x1600 on 7970 the game is maxed out and smooth as a babies bum, awesomesauce..

either way I been around these forums a lot lately(obviously) and have seen a trend of the same posts over and over and over..

I'll say, lol 300 posts and joined since 2012

I've seen the same trend since 2004 on these forums, same trend different game :D

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by sgtpitt

I don't know why people are hyping guild wars up so much, the game isn't even that good, the first one was nothing spectacular.

Typical fantasy MMO imo, from being in the beta tests, DE's copied straight from warhammer PQ system and Rifts invasions.

So much blind fanyboyism for a NCsoft/Arenanet game, when really nothing great has ever come from either camp.

I bought it anyway 'cause i'm a mmo veteran and that's what i do, but no doubt i'll be off playing Firefall, Defiance and Wildstar, because fantasy MMO's are getting real stale real fast.

Anyway once the hype wears off after 1 month and the fanboys pipe down, we will see where we are at, and what the next big game will be.

two in a row.. swear you all must have a flowchart

I just find it funny how you think you're the self proclaimed defender of gw2, i've been reading your posts laughing at how you think the game is the be all and end all of MMO gaming.

I used to think like that once, when i was young and naive..

It will be the same as the last 10 MMO's.. big for a few months, till the next big thing.

Me personally, i'm waiting for the ultimate sandbox, Archeage looks ok but meh it's asian, and they don't translate well. 

Don't get me wrong i'm excited for the game too, me and 3 other mates have bought it. We're currently raiding Infernal Dawn in RIFT, for us GW2 will be a filler between raid nights. TBH RIFT isn't even that great, i just log in for the raids.

Oooer Gimme a key please :)

This is the crafting system in PoE, it's also the currency in the game

http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/currency

Originally posted by Atlan99

 

you only have five character slots.

 

So... i only need 1

They have to pay for thier servers somehow, how about just paying some money for making a good game ?

I donated 50 bucks to GGG for Path of exile, because they made a good game not because i wanted anything, i was already in beta.

It's time to man up and pay for the hobby you love, if you don't support these artistic creations there won't be any left. You will have COD 78 rehashed generic game instead.

Hell don't pay for extras !! you can still play a good game. 

Originally posted by Scypheroth

 

and u dont think it is? considering it is the only top down killer  relased in 2012 what do u have to compair it to for its current year tat is playable?

 

 

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