Originally posted by Jalice888

#2 for sure, you must move over to that thread. TY Devellicious

Flaw 3: Apart from being dumb to try to make more real life money, Jagex keep slowing all skills ability down. Even Meelee nowdays is full of '0' hits so lets say they make 1 player take 3 times the time to kill something while they seem to make about 20 people quit aswell doing this. Only the biggest idiots would do such a brain-dead thing and yes Jagex are doing that!

            

This would not surpise me at all if jagex would do something as low as that.  One day enough will be enough and they will have no choice ,but to listnen to what the games players want. Who knows though by then it will probly be to late.

*oh yea and the latest game update caused a complete and total market crash. Also jagex is so smart they thought it would be practical to take down all the main trade servers on the day of the crash. Way to go again jagex way to go.

Originally posted by Blissey

About 2 Million people pay for memberships and about 6 mill play for free.

Yea Blissey's right the latest I saw was a total of 8.5 million players total and with Jagex bringing runescape to new countrys. Runescape is definetly not dead and if you have been looking at the recent numbers of online players there way up during this summer compared to a few months ago.

Thanks for the review!.  After reading I have decided t go and give it a try.  I do however have to disagree on it having a one of a kind graphic system I have seen these graphics in many other games ,but the gampleplay itself is unique.

Anyways thanks for the great review!

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by b2i12

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by b2i12

Originally posted by kesleri

Nothing on the market can compete with RuneScape...

 

Agreed, espcialy with them bringing back the wilderness!

 

LOL! That is funny right there.  What runescape is greatly lacking most of all is overall fun. It is mindless repeitition, nothing is hard ,only time consuming.  I mastered everything the game had to offer .. and didn;t even have to think about it, even the most time consuming quests I never even risked dying even when I solod desert treasure on my level 48 ... it is just that easy, so easy that young children can play the game fine. There was no challenge not even in killing Jad. No, just poor AI,bad community, poor management and lame quests, yes and I mean LAME.. I could write more interesting and amusing storylines from the ramblings of 5 yr olds than this game has to offer.

All this mindless grinding and with no rewards, not only is the armor in the game butt ugly , your faceless noob doesn;t even get rewards worth the time it took to actually gain the levels. I leveld the hard way, before they made it easy for the kids. We asked for decent rewards for our levels and they gave us stupid looking capes with lame emotes, like  I could care less about emotes, that might entertain an 8 year old, but unless it is a punch in the face emote I am not amused in the slightest.

The chaos of the original wilderness, winner takes all environment, where you could actually help your friends and anything could happen was the only thing that made the game worth playing at all. When they nerfed trade and wildy it stripped the game down to the point that you would have a much better time playing a single player rpg.  I liked to help my friends on the game, and unless I can give them my drops from my kills  what is the point in getting a drop at all? I mean I did everything the game had to offer, I had every item in the game, I had everything in the game that i ever wanted, and have no desire to stockpile poorly drawn usless pixel crap so that it can collect pixel dust in my bank .. I would rather let someone else have it that could actually use it, and I can't even do that any more.

Not being able to trade freely ruined this game. Don;t give me the BS .about real world traders.. sure kids will buy that nonsense, but when I know for a fact that not only do they track all programs that access their site, they have the ability to block them entirely with no need to harm the game at all. RMT has been around and dealt with by many companies, just Jagex was the only one stupid enough to try to use it as an excuse to remove core content to make their game more child friendly while lying to their players on the game site, at the same time bragging about their child safety venture to the rest of the gaming community.

That is the customer service and honesty that many of us in the gaming community have come to expect from Jagex, so little respect for their own player base, they take them for idiots that will believe anything they tell them while boldly telling the rest of the gaming community something entirely different. LMAO

That being because they know they would not be able to convince anyone in the actual gaming community of their nonsense, because everyone who can tell their head from their monkeybutt  knows better.

Im sorry ,but I have to respectfully disagree with most of your post. Runescape's community has to be one of the best in the mmorpg genre. For example, you can go any where at any time and start up a full conversation with literaly anybody! This key feature is lacked in many MMOs. I have to say I have met many friends from playing Runescape; many of which I now play with in other MMOs and online games. I do have to agree with you when you say Jagex's customer service is poor ,which indeed it is. They are working day in and day out on making there players expierence the best it could possibly be. I also have to agree with your opinion of the way they dealt with RWT. There were other options ,but they did what they thought was best for the game at the time. When there is another logical and practical way of going about combating RWT I trust Runescape with implement it.

First off Jagex catering to children making this a young child safe game is what ruins the community. IF your Idea of a great community is a bunch of 9 & 10 year olds walking around calling each other noobs and mispelling swear  words just because they can then, sure, It would be just the game for you! If you want to see 53 yr old truck drivers dating little boys, and grannies dating 16 yr olds.. you will fit right in! The stuff I saw in my time there was just sick ... lol
 

This game had the strictest chat filter but the most terribly rude potty mouthed players I have ever seen, and I have played quite a few MMO's. This game make the WOW crowd seem mature .. and anyone who has played WOW knows that is a HUGE statement. This is how they promote their game outside of the runescape site:

"Adam Tuckwell is the “Safety Minister” and Head of PR at Jagex. He was proud to talk to me about Runescape's effort to make the game a safe environment for under children under the age of 13. Previously, players had to to be 13+ to play the game. Runescape launched the under 13 game in June. This provides a Quick Chat interface, and children under 13 can only see Quick Chat text from other players of the under 13 game. This game is Coppa compliant, and have been awarded Best in Class by the IWF (Internet Watch Foundation). Since the launch of the under 13 game, Jagex has seen a 40% increase in Runescape registrations.

In the Quarter 2 or 3 of 2009, the Parental Controls dashboard will be launched. This provides parents with the means to set how often and how long their children can play Runescape, set various chat settings and have various controls over their children's Friends List – such as the ability to add friends with or without parental approval.

Just as MUDs were the precursors to MMORPGs, Henrique described Runscape as a Junior MMORPG. A great training ground for other MMORPGs. "
 

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/37/feature/2065

They do not even consider themselves a real MMORPG but a " junior mmorpg" a starter mmo for children. This is why they target children with their updates, and dumbed down the game. They DO in fact, target children and make the quests easy enough for children to do, that is why they are not hard.

Their customer service does nothing more than try to convince their players on their site they are doing their best, while they solve nothing. It is funny that you buy into that so easily. I strongly disagree they are doing their best . that is funny considering the rest of the industry doesn't try their best and give a 110% Better customer service than Jagex provides.  Jagex is the most 2 faced company I have ever dealt with. They tell their community one thing, while telling the gaming community another. Is that how to treat their customers?

There are practical, logical, and better ways to do just about everything they have done recently, but they have other plans in mind. Those methods do not fit into their" child friendly framework" they have already started putting in place.

In time, you too will see the " big picture here". Took me a while to see it as well.

 

Well I do have to say great post. After reading this I actually rethought how much I liked Runescape. It was a great starter MMO ,but Its time to move on. Its a shame that Jagex wants to ruin the game for its veteran players; those that have been there since the beginning. I guess it really is all about the money for them; they are going to ruin a once great game, just to make a couple more bucks off eight year olds so be it. Any Suggestions on a good community MMO, Deviliscious?

Originally posted by Theocritus 

       Sorry but I ahve always considered Runescape to be the worst MMO experience I ever had....It was teh only game where I had to completely shut off all chat channels because there was so much swearing and just plain stupid chat........The community was flat out awful........The graphics also rate dead last of all MMOs I have ever played (with FFXI a close 2nd)..... THe community was so bad that it completely ruined whatever enjoyment there was in the game.....Anyone that thinks this is the best game has either never played another game or has serious bad taste in gaming.........I think people just post these  "runescape is the best game ever" threads just to annoy everyone else.

I am not claiming it to be the "best game ever". I am saying it is a very good game that is in dire need of new managment. Also the graphics have greatly improved; espicialy if you play at the best settings available.

There is no need to insult people for liking this game. You have just as much right to your opinion about Runescape as they do.

***  "Anyone that thinks this is the best game has either never played another game or has serious bad taste in gaming"  *****

Originally posted by Simiswimm

Originally posted by Blissey

Much better when it comes to wide scale compability or speed, but other than that, it's a shame of an MMORPG. This coming from a veteran.

 

I give that a QFT.

Is b1i12 being paid to advertise runescape? Because that's what it looks like he's doing, anyway. I can understand a positive review; we all have our dislikes and likes, but this guy is somthin else.

Um First of all You spelled my username wrong its, b2i12. Second of all I am just a avid supporter of Runescape and its community. Runescape is in desperate need of a revival and me and several other veterans who still play are taking on that very challenge. Shame on people who feel the need who need to critize and insult anybody who thinks differently than them.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by b2i12

Originally posted by kesleri

Nothing on the market can compete with RuneScape...

 

Agreed, espcialy with them bringing back the wilderness!

 

LOL! That is funny right there.  What runescape is greatly lacking most of all is overall fun. It is mindless repeitition, nothing is hard ,only time consuming.  I mastered everything the game had to offer .. and didn;t even have to think about it, even the most time consuming quests I never even risked dying even when I solod desert treasure on my level 48 ... it is just that easy, so easy that young children can play the game fine. There was no challenge not even in killing Jad. No, just poor AI,bad community, poor management and lame quests, yes and I mean LAME.. I could write more interesting and amusing storylines from the ramblings of 5 yr olds than this game has to offer.

All this mindless grinding and with no rewards, not only is the armor in the game butt ugly , your faceless noob doesn;t even get rewards worth the time it took to actually gain the levels. I leveld the hard way, before they made it easy for the kids. We asked for decent rewards for our levels and they gave us stupid looking capes with lame emotes, like  I could care less about emotes, that might entertain an 8 year old, but unless it is a punch in the face emote I am not amused in the slightest.

The chaos of the original wilderness, winner takes all environment, where you could actually help your friends and anything could happen was the only thing that made the game worth playing at all. When they nerfed trade and wildy it stripped the game down to the point that you would have a much better time playing a single player rpg.  I liked to help my friends on the game, and unless I can give them my drops from my kills  what is the point in getting a drop at all? I mean I did everything the game had to offer, I had every item in the game, I had everything in the game that i ever wanted, and have no desire to stockpile poorly drawn usless pixel crap so that it can collect pixel dust in my bank .. I would rather let someone else have it that could actually use it, and I can't even do that any more.

Not being able to trade freely ruined this game. Don;t give me the BS .about real world traders.. sure kids will buy that nonsense, but when I know for a fact that not only do they track all programs that access their site, they have the ability to block them entirely with no need to harm the game at all. RMT has been around and dealt with by many companies, just Jagex was the only one stupid enough to try to use it as an excuse to remove core content to make their game more child friendly while lying to their players on the game site, at the same time bragging about their child safety venture to the rest of the gaming community.

That is the customer service and honesty that many of us in the gaming community have come to expect from Jagex, so little respect for their own player base, they take them for idiots that will believe anything they tell them while boldly telling the rest of the gaming community something entirely different. LMAO

That being because they know they would not be able to convince anyone in the actual gaming community of their nonsense, because everyone who can tell their head from their monkeybutt  knows better.

Im sorry ,but I have to respectfully disagree with most of your post. Runescape's community has to be one of the best in the mmorpg genre. For example, you can go any where at any time and start up a full conversation with literaly anybody! This key feature is lacked in many MMOs. I have to say I have met many friends from playing Runescape; many of which I now play with in other MMOs and online games. I do have to agree with you when you say Jagex's customer service is poor ,which indeed it is. They are working day in and day out on making there players expierence the best it could possibly be. I also have to agree with your opinion of the way they dealt with RWT. There were other options ,but they did what they thought was best for the game at the time. When there is another logical and practical way of going about combating RWT I trust Runescape with implement it.

I would have to say I use Tip.it and Rune HQ more than any of the others listed; both of which have a decent community.

Originally posted by kesleri

Nothing on the market can compete with RuneScape...

Agreed, espcialy with them bringing back the wilderness!

Originally posted by Blissey

My goodness, where have you been during the past 5 years? there are alot of MMORPG alternatives and opportunities aside from that rotting stinkhole that obviously hasn't seen any major improvement ever since. Give Guildwars a try or for the complex MMORPG enthusiast, give Eternal Realms a try. I myself play WoW. It's not that expensive, if you have a job.

Im sorry but not many Improvements. Um where have you been. Everything from game play to graphics have been improved. Also WoW not being very expensive! There is the $20 for the game and $15 per month ouch! Guildwars and ER are both good games ,but in my opinion Runescape is much better.

I have to disagree with some of the previous posts in this thread. I went on a mission a month ago to find a game better than Runescape. The results, I could not find a game that was in my opinion better than Runescape. There is downsides to RS ,but overall I think it is one of the best MMOs if not the best. The have made huge upgrades to the graphical part of the game*. Many new and fun quest are added all the time. The game is regularly updated with new content. The number one feature however in Runescape, is the amazing community. Out of the 27 games I tried in the past month not one even compared to the community of RS. In Runescape you can start up conversations about virtually anything with anyone. For example we were talking about the NBA playoffs last night while fishing in the fishing guild. It might just be me ,but I cannot stand a game where you do not talk to anyone. I know Jagex has made many updates that people disliked including me at first, but I actually like most of them now. Another great thing about RS though is the very cheap membership fee and the option to play for free. Trust me just give RS a genuine try and most likely you will like it. **

Ok I agree with you on alot of what you posted ,but who in the world ever uses 40 accs, i been playing runescape for about 5 years now and i only have 3 member accs. Although WoW by many peoples reviews is considered better than runescape I tried it and was very dissapointed im going to give it a go again sometime this month ,but I think RS has the best first time player introduction system out of any game I have ever played.

I posted awhile back how much I disliked this game and after weeks of trying other games I really have not found a game that compares to Runescape. I definetly suggest if your reading this go back and give it a try again. There updates from the better graphics* to the automatic logout timer being made longer, made this at least to me a whole different game. Now you can actually do other things while your playing (Youtube, Facebook, ect.). I do still dislike the censorship , but it at least looks to me that their letting up a bit. I also think RS needs a jump start so invite your friends back and tell people. So in close take a look at some of the HD pics below and give RS A TRY!!!

Wow the 3D modeling and facial expressions were downright amazing! I can not wait to see these kind of graphics in our games!!!!

Originally posted by deviliscious

Hell no they do not need more regulation.  IN fact the government has NO business regulating any business.. that isn't their job.  You only posted part of the problem .. like where is the community of reinvestment act and the alterations made by clinton on your post as that directly applies to this as well?

I do not think that our federal  government should have any say in what our businesses do, their job is uphold and protect the constitution of the United states against all enemies foreign and domestic ...not meddle in business affairs. ALL business laws should be left up to the indvidual states, and let the people who live in the state determine what needs to be applied to their state.  The only thing the federal government is supposed to do is protect our rights .. yup that is it. 

 

Yea I completely agree I mean really that is not the goverments job to regulate private businesses. All the regulations is part of the reason businesses leave the US and move somewhere else. Which then in turn leads to the loss of jobs and look where we are now!

Originally posted by adamgcl

No.. Im sorry.. Runescape does not have better graphics then this game

For starters the textures in this game are much better then that of runescapes and the models dont look like a lump of clay.

This game is good, and it has a great community. So stop bitching about its outdated graphics, if you care about something like that why bother even posting about how horrible the game is?

Yea I definetly have to agree, in no way does Runescape have even close graphics to this. Also Runescape gameplay is not even fun, I got to 92 in three skills and its not even worth playing. Another thing is Runescape has way to much censorship and the game itself is being ruined by Jagex. In my opinion there really is no question what the better game is here.

Thanks alot for the info I am dying to get in to the beta!

Yea im having the same exact problem with getting in! Its been like 6 days now. Im getting a little concerned that after all this time that their not able to go full beta! And ahaha whats up with their 18 and older only thing, they got to know there is no way thats going to work.

Haha nice thread I cant really think of a topic that could do all that ,but if I do I will let you know!

Originally posted by ThePreventer

Originally posted by GreenChaos

Originally posted by ThePreventer

i do smoke pot and drink, i am 14. been smoking for a year now, i can still freerun just fine, and i wrestle. and it is addicting i get headaches at school in my last class, from lack of it. but i just get a sorta rush from nicotine. i cant really explain it though.

 

There will come a time when you won't be able to stop.  Now everyone is differt and you can hear a few stories about people who found it easy to quit.

But most people get very addicted. 

Trust me, it's one of the most destructive things you can do to your body.  If you need a pick-me-up try coffee.  Also  addictive but not as bad for you. 

 

i thought about picking up dip, but thats kinda disgusting and my GF says not to, she's kool with me smoking but she smokes to...i have thought about quitting but never really tried.

Trust me dude dip is definetly one thing you dont want to pick up. It messes up your teeth and many many girls would not even considering dating you if they know you dip.