I'll pre-order this bitch. While many people see the leaked videos and get negative thoughts (or however you want to put it), I know better.

I've been waiting for years now. Not for this game per se, but just a game LIKE this. I don't care how it looks. I don't care what the audio is like. I don't care about immersion. I care about the glory days of UO before I got laid for the first time. Those days when I would cut school just to GM a skill, then accidentally eat my rare coconuts while clicking around my bank. When tamers got raped, and I had six accounts because I kept getting banned for racial slurs. When I made one person stop playing the game because the anti-social onslaught was too much for him/her.

This game could look like Ultima Online and I would still buy it. Graphics are nice, but this is about a time period of gaming, not a particular game.

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by AllTheZios

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by AllTheZios

Originally posted by WOWthatsucks

     In another thread the subject was brought up about not having a targeting system and having friendly fire.   Do you believe this is going to work well in dfo, or is it gonna cause to may problems in large sige warfare?  If so do how long till it ( friendly fire ) is removed?

 

Bodies strung along a battlefield, your own people getting slaughtered by siege equipment, having to think before zerging into the middle of a melee pile.

 

What's the problem, again? Sounds good to me.

 

Is it more "realistic"?  Sure.

Will it be fun?  Not sure.

I'm starting to see why, in most of the polls I've seen on this and the DFO website, people intend on playing ranged classes more than melee ones.

 

Realism is fun.

 

For melee users, those polearms will be put away in a heavy situation in favor of a blade with not so much reach. Less friendly fire that way.

 

Or, of course, they could do as they want, get their friends hit, and that's more loot for me. I really don't care.

 

Realism isn't necessarily fun.  In fact, I'd go as far as to say that, while some people romanticize their thoughts of what's enjoyable before they get into the game (i.e. "I'm gonna be a big PvP badass, 'cause I've got lots of skill and no one will be able to compete with me" and similar delusions), the "reality" of it in the game is probably going to much less glamorous than they thought it would be, no matter how "hardcore" they profess themselves to be.

"Hardcore" PvP gamers are one step below internet tough guys.

Realism is always fun. Permadeath is fun. Full loot is fun. Getting ass-raped in an MMORPG by some twelve year old who just happens to outping you by 30 ms is fun. Having your heartbeat increase and your hands shake because you just got finished wiping up a four man fagfest at the Brit GY with nothing but a DPed Kryss and GM stealing skill is extra fun.

Yeah. Yeah this is going to be good.

Originally posted by xzyax

Now that there are starting to be quite a few different Beta leaks I couldn't help but remember the debate that was had a month or so ago.

 

Why aren't we seeing hardly any Beta Leaks?  Remember that coming up again and again.

 

One of the reasons put forth by quite a few on this forum was the extremely small amount of people in Beta and that those that were in Beta were close friends of Tasos and other devs.  This was pointed out as being a detriment to the testing of DarkFall as a large number of testers was key to making sure everything was working as intended.

 

Another reason that was put forth by a number of other posters here on this forum was that the NDA was very strict and that all of those in Beta took it very seriously and were afraid to break it because of the consequences that would follow. 

 

So here were are at the present time with a few things that I think everyone would agree with.

1) There are more people in Beta now

2) There are more leaks now

3) The NDA is still in effect

 

So... which one of the previous reasons for the lack of Beta leaks seems to be correct one now. 

A leaked video post was just deleted about five minutes ago. The leaks keep coming, more or less.

Search on youtube for Darkfall Gameplay Leak - REAL VOICE/UI

That should do you fine.

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by AllTheZios

Originally posted by WOWthatsucks

     In another thread the subject was brought up about not having a targeting system and having friendly fire.   Do you believe this is going to work well in dfo, or is it gonna cause to may problems in large sige warfare?  If so do how long till it ( friendly fire ) is removed?

 

Bodies strung along a battlefield, your own people getting slaughtered by siege equipment, having to think before zerging into the middle of a melee pile.

 

What's the problem, again? Sounds good to me.

 

Is it more "realistic"?  Sure.

Will it be fun?  Not sure.

I'm starting to see why, in most of the polls I've seen on this and the DFO website, people intend on playing ranged classes more than melee ones.

Realism is fun.

For melee users, those polearms will be put away in a heavy situation in favor of a blade with not so much reach. Less friendly fire that way.

Or, of course, they could do as they want, get their friends hit, and that's more loot for me. I really don't care.

Originally posted by WOWthatsucks

     In another thread the subject was brought up about not having a targeting system and having friendly fire.   Do you believe this is going to work well in dfo, or is it gonna cause to may problems in large sige warfare?  If so do how long till it ( friendly fire ) is removed?

Bodies strung along a battlefield, your own people getting slaughtered by siege equipment, having to think before zerging into the middle of a melee pile.

What's the problem, again? Sounds good to me.

Originally posted by Fishermage

I have seen people on this forum and others that Smedley and other SOE DEVs have said that they lost the code to pre-CU/NGE and that is why they couldn't roll back or open classic servers.

I never saw anyone official say that. Did anyone save these very important quotes? Any info on this would be helpful, especially any links and/or well referenced quotes.

Thanks in advance.

That. Is. Horse. Shit.

Just like Mythic lost the code to Legends of Kesmai, MageStorm, SpellBinder, etc? Horse shit.

Legends of Kesmai leaked as a matter of fact and can still be played to this day. Two player servers run it (And they have some kind of immature drama whore feud going on).

MageStorm, for instance, is probably the greatest game ever made. Those bastards WONT bring it back. Not CANT.

These business folks, they dont give a shit about what we think. They WONT bring back Pre-CU. Not CANT. At least one dev on the planet (or one FTP) has the old code saved as a backup. To tell us otherwise its just a bare faced lie.

They care about looking like idiots, and about money. They feel that pre-CU wouldn't turn over as much profit as feeding their dying horse, so they won't bring back anything. It makes me sick.

I hope the entire management team dies in a plane crash. Less people in the world I have to worry about.

Originally posted by Jackarro

To pay a $30 sub?

If SOE/LA would sell the rights to the Pre-CU to an independent developer for a revamp and relaunch?

I,for one would be willing to pay.

This question has been stewing in my mind for months....Am I alone?

Feel free to speculate on the gross number of subs a revamp and relaunch might net. (At  a $30 sub)

Discuss....

 

The emulator is free. Forget $30 a month.

The only problem is that they make progress about as fast as the Darkfall folks. We can simply wait and hope.

All of that and one dev who offed himself because he failed at every aspect of his life? Yeah. I hope it was worth it, SoE.

Its like those idiots screwing up Spore for the more simple minded gamers out there. Tons of complaints. But they don't care. As long as they turn a little bit of money as profit, its all good, right?

I wish SO BADLY that I had the power to order summary executions.

Originally posted by Wizardry

Honestly how could you roleplay anyhow if the game has no roleplaying mechanics?This one always confused the heck out of me.As far as i was concerned EQ/EQ2 has the best and pretty much the ONLY mechanics to have real roleplaying,most other games struggle to make normal content let alone adding in all the lore/language and other mechanics that go into RP.Not only that but DF is all about PVP,so you cannot RP anything except fight or be killed lol,that is why PVP is so one dimensional boring.

I am not a RP'r but EQ2 if any game came close to making me get into it a bit,just because they have so much into the game,like all the different races and languages,and the different lore that is associated with each race.Most games are so shallow,a race is nothing more than a different looking model,not much more sfter that comes of it.FFXI did it pretty good,there is a huge distint difference in each class,but that game has no RP mechanics outside of the distinct difference in stats,most games do not do that part even very well,so you can see how far ahead EQ2 is in the RP dpeartment.

I know many think writing abstract stories outside of the game is part of their RP experience ,i do not follow that way of thinking ,but whatever,RP in a game is just that "IN the GAME",if there is no mechanics ,it does not exist.

Text+Actions in-character=Roleplaying.

Its a simple formula. A hardcore roleplayer doesnt need mechanics. I love raping poor newbies as much as the next guy, but I still roleplay my ass off when there is a situation I can do it in. Hopefully, we'll have some Roleplaying servers. Hopefully, non-RPers wont bother us. Not because I'm a carebear, but because when I kill someone, I want it to impact their soul.

Anyway, just avoiding terms like "LOL" is one "mechanic" that the players can make themselves to create a roleplaying environment. That and staying In-Character at all times.