Originally posted by Ceclis

Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?

I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.

What are your opinions?

Welcome to Riker's Island. That's what its going to be. Stabbings, beatings, and ass-rape. Get a rep or get slapped. This is going to be good.

Forget about SoE. Even if they did bring back a Pre-CU forum, that's like an abused wife going back to her husband after she gets her ear cut off. Its just asking for more.

All we can do for Pre-CU is hope the emulation scene gets their act together. Although at this rate, they'll be releasing a working version of SWG Emu about the same time that Darkfall is released.

Originally posted by Romancandle

Discuss!

There is no discussion. When the announcement was made regarding an interview with KFR in which he made mention of designing a virtual world, and how he succeeded, we knew we were duped. We were suckered into an investment scheme. All of our crying and whining for more features or bugfixes had no meaning.

Our constant patience with the lack of development had no point at all. We didnt know it at the time, but we were just tools to be used for money-harvesting. KFR sucks. I'm a total dick, and even I wouldn't do those things to a community of loyal fans.

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by Hodo

I love the "combat is over in 5-10sec."  gripes....

Have any of you been in a fight with swords, spears, bows, or anyother leathel form of melee weapon?

 

I don't care if 5 second battles are more realistic. Walking for an hour to fight a 5 second battle isn't fun. Thats why nobody plays this game.

 

No one plays the game because the game doesn't function correctly. It never did.

No one plays the game because KFR banned a tenth of the population.

No one plays the game because Vlad is fat.

No one plays the game because implementation of features took years to finally get finished, and they STILL aren't finished.

No one plays the game because (and this is the big one) no one plays the game. Seeing a huge world utterly devoid of anything resembling a playerbase isnt good for morale, let me tell you.

I wonder if the trial server will have the same problems as the regular server. Ah well. At least trial players will get the REAL RV experience that way.

Originally posted by Fearmeirl

1.) Re-release the 97' game. I still have my CD. I will take it out of its frame for this date.

 

2.) Make 1 server for the old players to play.

 

We are so fed up with the current MMO's. Warhammer, World of Warcraft, Age of Conan, any others Im not going to list: Are NOT for US. We've paid these companys thousands to millions of dollars that we would of gladly given to you to keep up *ONE* server for us. No game will ever be like the original UO. We are still waiting, currently mostly waiting for Darkfall, yet even DF will not fully mimic the good times of old UO. Please reconsider your "We will never have a retro server" mindset. Your killing your game when you could be progressing. 

When I say "we" I think I speak for anyone who has ever played UO from October 1, 1998 to February 28, 2003.

 

Thanks.

I.. I can't believe I have to keep saying this.

Free shards. Google it. You'll get everything you want. As long as you dont disrespect the staff on those shards, you'll be fine.

Originally posted by Gyrus

Originally posted by AllTheZios
.....

 

And there was no reason to delete my previous post. Hell, it was the least inflammatory post I've made in the past two days.

And with that you just broke the forum rules - well done - well on the way to getting a third thread locked.

 

Dear MMORPG.com Mods,

Instead of locking all the threads where AllTheZios has posted and incited a flame war - how about just editing the damn things?

By locking the threads you are just being used... this is a tactic that has been used on a number of Developer forums in the last year.

Someone posts something you don't like?

• Derail the thread.
• Start a flame war
• Incourage people to make personal insults against you (so YOU don't do anything wrong...)
• Sit back and wait for the thread to be locked as a result... FTW!

Honestly guys - you are getting used.  I am really disappointed you are falling for it.

You are insane. I backed up this guy on the fact that not everyone speaks English at a Native skill level, and that was good enough for a post delete? No flaming, no excessive foul language, just an opinion. It made no sense. Someone tore into the guy for not speaking English well, and used that as a basis for their "U R STUPID" flames. I disagreed with that.

Nothing deletable there. Certainly nothing lockable.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by daarco

Let us explain this:

I live in Sweden. We have a law thats named "Every mans Right!" It means that everyone can walk anywere in Sweden, even on someone slses property without asking. You can pick berries and fruits everywere. I think you almost can walk into someones house.

But you cant destroy are disturb anything! As soon you do that...the right to be everywere is gone.

 

 

Same with "freedom of speach" i guess.

 

Here in America, going on someone else' property gives you the right to be shot. I like that much better.

 

You still have that?? Its 2009!

 

That's okay. So is the new model Mossberg.

Greatest quote ever. I'm sigging that bitch for some other forums.

Originally posted by Triggger

Originally posted by Chieftan

That reporter liked it better in Iraq when throwing a shoe at the president meant watching his wife and daughter get raped while his toes and ears were cut off.  What a piece of human trash.

This is a typical dumb comment from someone who really thinks that bush saved Iraq from saddam.

Yeah. What happens under the rule of a despot isn't any of our business. I lost a good friend of mine in Iraq, and while that goes with the job, it was utterly pointless. I could give two shits less about Saddam, or Iraq, or anywhere else save for the US. We have enough of our own problems, let alone bringing the hammer down on a third world shithole with more AK-47 wielding ambush squads than Vietnam.

SO glad I'm out of the Army now. That wasn't as fun as I'd thought it be.

On the flip side, there isnt anything wrong with invading a country. I simply wish we would have stated - Saddam, we don't like you. We're going to kill you, and take over your country.

Hell, even Hitler eventually said "You're getting invaded, son."

Originally posted by upallnight

I'm seeing Prop 8 pass in California.  I see bills like the one in Arkansas squared directly at not allowing gay loving couples to adopt.  I watch people who call themselves Christians take aim at us every day in so many ways.

I wonder, what exactly do you want us gays to do?

Would you like for us to remain in the closet and hide from who we were born as?  Would you like for us to be celibate and never have sex or experience sex for our entire lives?  Would you like for us to ignore the only way we can love another person and instead when we find someone that we fall in love with deny it to each other and live a complete life of loneliness?  Would you like that we feel so dispicable about ourselves that we find each day a struggle to carry on?  Or would you like for us not to carry on and instead play out that internal hatred that society teaches us to feel and go ahead and end it by taking our own lives?  Or, would you rather take it for us by rooting out who we are in society and having us all exterminated like you would a disease or an annoying insect or rodent?

I'm confused about what you want from us.  It is completely out of any concept I can grasp when we come to you and honestly ask for your understanding and you deny it to us.  We tell you with all honesty that we did not choose to be who we are, that we are capable of only falling in love with someone of the same sex, and that we don't want to feel the unbearable agony of being alone while having to go through life being scorned and called wicked and evil.

I don't get it.  I can't.  I am unhappy at what I was born into.  I love my God, but I do not understand my fellow humans.  I cannot believe that God has taught us to hate one another or to put limitations on love for another adult.  I cannot believe what I see when I look at people executed, denied liberty, denied freedoms, or told that they'd rather us just go hide somewhere and leave them alone.

I am happy we have a black president now.  It's nice to see that we can at least get over our racism.  But I wonder how long it will take us, if we ever do, to get over the hatred that is for gay people.  And I wonder what is going to happen to us. 

Would another holocaust aimed at us make some people happy?  Or does it make you happy just to know that you can keep us in a spot where we cannot experience a good life, just one you "let" us live?

Blah blah, whine whine. No one -cares- what happens to you. No one wants you to get massacred in a holocaust, no one wants you to get persecuted. We simply don't care.

You will forever be nothing more than an insult thrown at straight people in MMOs. For that, I pity you. I also think it kicks ass. Homosexuals have a legacy that will never die. That's almost as good as getting married and having a family, right?

"I can't marry my boyfriend!"

"That's okay. Another newbie just got called a homo"

"We will never die!"

Hats off to you. You make this country more interesting.

Originally posted by tro44_1

I come to ask for some tips to improve my social life.

So far I quit all MMOs I played, and focusing on school.

Whats the next step I should take to have a more social life?

 

Thx in advance

Join the military. You'll get all the social skills you need. Deference to authority, screw everyone else. Good business. Once your switch gets flipped in your head, you'll thank me. You'll be seeing the world with new eyes.

Originally posted by Neithan

I thought it might be a neat idea for Turbine to offer accounts for Monsterplay only, for those people that might like to play it regularly without the rest of the game. Turbine could allow accounts for about $5.99 a month for people who only want to play as Creep, and market this to all the multiplayer-games sites. It would be brilliant to release it on Valve's Steam client, for example (company name was made for this partnership!) This would really keep the Moors alive, and make end-game constantly exciting for players. There could even be an optional "freep-generator" for creeps to play as/against (with lesser rewards than PC freeps) when they want to (bring back those Fell Scrying Pools creepside).

 

Integrating it with the full LotRO PvE game could give you two superior products for the development of one! This would give Turbine an extra revenue stream to improve PvMP without cutting into LotRO's PvE resource time and budget, adding new PvMP zones and instances etc.. Not to mention Monsterplay could be a fantastic advertisement tool for players who might want to check out the full game.

 

I would most certainly get down with this. The problem is that carebears would whine about it.

WAAAAH! THEY GET TO PLAY LEVEL 50s WHILE WE HAVE TO LEVEL. WAAAAAH! 

Yeah, well... You get to carebear your way to leet equipment. I'd call that balance. Oh me oh my, I'd miss out on raids on super mobs! OH GOD I'D MISS RAIDS! GUILD INVITES! OH NOES111!1

MP is where its at.

Originally posted by boomheadshot

every time i swear..if your from meneldor server you know how Feaking frustrating it is when some loser rolls a troll just to fuck us freeps

 

and no rangers dont do shit

Rangers one shot creeps. I'd call that "shit".

The fact of the matter is that trolls and Rangers are "Keep breakers". They aren't going anywhere. FFS, the troll was nerfed a few months ago, right? There you go.

I've said since beta that MP had to be balanced, and no one listened to me. Now you're understanding.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by AllTheZios

Originally posted by zymurgeist

You don't get freedom of speech on someone else's forums. You get rules that must be obeyed.

 

Rules which few give a second glance to. No, I'd prefer the freedom of speech theory. That is to say, if you don't like what I'm saying, disagree with me. If  one of us gets banned, its that person's responsibility to make another account and finish the discussion.

 

Alas, no one can fight the lock stick, however. It destroys worlds.

 

One of those rules is if you get banned you're not allowed to make another account to post on. Odds are if you're banned you have nothing to contribute worth reading anyway.

Yeah. All of the ban bunnies -really- pay attention to that one. Fifteen minutes later they open another "WHY DO SOE SUX SO BAD? I TOOK MY CAR N HIT DEVS LUL U SUK SOE!" thread. Fail.

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by Gnomad

Is English a second language for you Raiden?

Just wondering because you once again prove my contention that the most vocal sycophantic fawnbois write like they are using a translator from some foreign language.

 Which leads me to believe that either A) you are a shill for Aventurine B) You are quite young and don't understand proper grammer C) You failed grammer school English  D) You really don't give a F how stupid your comments come off as.

 

English is a second language to me, and to many others. When will you egocentric, pompus a**es stop trying to assess someones personality based on a written text on a forum on the internet?

You should take it to heart and stop spewing this kind of sh*t around you, it only belittles your standing in most educated peoples minds.

and what on earth does "sycophantic fawnbois" mean anyone?

have a great day!
 

 

Like I said, I agree with this first half. English isnt a native language for a lot of folks. No reason to tear him down for that. If he has "stupid ideas", then sure. However, bad grammer is no good idea to hate for.

And there was no reason to delete my previous post. Hell, it was the least inflammatory post I've made in the past two days.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

You don't get freedom of speech on someone else's forums. You get rules that must be obeyed.

Rules which few give a second glance to. No, I'd prefer the freedom of speech theory. That is to say, if you don't like what I'm saying, disagree with me. If  one of us gets banned, its that person's responsibility to make another account and finish the discussion.

Alas, no one can fight the lock stick, however. It destroys worlds.

Originally posted by stayontarget

whats up with all the lock downs and deleted threads over nothing. Freedom of speech is surly lacking at the DF forums.

 

A lot of them are posting links to the leaked beta videos. A simple google or youtube search will find them, so its not really needed to actually give a link.

Originally posted by GungaDin

I still don't understand why UO doesnt have servers pre-trammel.  I'd love to show the rest of these MMO's what PVP is really like in an open and free world. 

Its called free shards. All the Pre-Trammel carnage you could ever want, with a decent playerbase. We can't post info about free shards, but just google it or something.

As populated as OSI (EA ) ? No. An alternative to dreaming about the glory days? Yes.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

These quote is from a leaker  who started out very negative  , whine about server  unstable, combat not connected yadda yadda..look what he has to report after some time now  in beta :

"Updated Impressions
I've spent hours and hours in Darkfall over the weekend. I believe that people who have been following the game for years will probably find what they are looking for in Darkfall. The features they've promised are all in the game, and working as best as I can tell. But more importantly, the overall feeling one gets from an adventure in Darkfall is genuinely unique.

PvP
While small-group PvP is somewhat simple (at least at my skill level), it's a great deal of fun. What makes PvP in Darkfall different are its terms. You aren't in an arcade-like battleground, like in WoW or WAR. You aren't playing for points. You are trying to survive, and to prevent your opponent from taking your stuff. I've gotten ganked several times, and each time it pisses me off! But, those times that you get a kill of your own easily make up for it. The ability to step aside when a spell or arrow is tossed at you is incredible, and seeing the blood splatter is great. The only major complaint I have with PvP is the lack of overall responsiveness in the UI. This is something I am constantly hopeful that they will fix.

PvE
The PvE is good for similar reasons. Since you're not constantly getting overloaded with quests, you are free to play the game however you like. When a friend logs in, he doesn't have to worry about catching up on quests. He can just join the action.

PvE in Darkfall is motivated by wealth. Gold has a lot of value in Darkfall. It's used to buy skills and outfit your character - and the cost of things is not cheap. The spawns are no longer "bugged", but they are definitely way too sparse. There is still no wildlife to hunt, for example. I am still scouting for dungeons to explore, but no luck so far. I know they exist though, as I've heard people talk about them in Global.

Overall
I think overall Darkfall is fun. It's still very rough though, and Aventurine must address this before they officially release the game. As someone who has been following the game for years, I sincerely hope they get the game at least a little polished. I'd really like it to be a commercial success, not another MMO failure. "

These ! is from a leaker with negative opinion (he started with a negative one and game "teached" him otherwise in most of his initially false impressions in his first days )  !

 

nice words.

words are not proof.

repeatedly, we have asked for proof.

there do exist official videos, which show pretty much NONE of the "unique" features listed on darkfall's site.

 

where are THOSE videos?  where are the videos that show me an archer in medium+ armor that stops shooting arrows and starts doing magic?   where's the big tough warrior guy that can do magic?  where's the magic guy that starts shooting arrows or grabs a mace and pops someone in the head?

that's JUST the skills... where is the proof of all these other wonderful features, which are touted on the website?

 

proof or stfu is a rule that still applies to this day.

lots of words do NOT equal proof.

I'm 95% certain that the "latest" leak video shows a guy get smacked around by "Mana Missile" from some elf, who proceeds to catch up to him and take him down with a two-handed sword. I don't know how unique that is, as even UO had tank mages who used Halberds, but still.

Originally posted by zaxtor99

All Aventurine needs to do is turn the mobs on, turn the NPCs on, turn the collision detection on, turn the speed switch to "fast" instead of slow, and turn debug mode off...

Yep. As beta leak after beta leak is revealed the public, the excuses from the Darkfall fanatics just keeps piling up. I'm so sick of hearing that they need to turn "debug" mode off or that problems are only because they are in debug mode.. I am about to scream.

It truly is frightening at the depths that the fans here will delve to cover up the problems as they are revealed. Aventurine, even with their "top secrecy mode: on" and them continuing to keep it all undercover is obviously trying ridiculously hard to keep it all a secret for a reason. They aren't releasing the NDA for a reason, and it's not because its as Tasos has told us, trust me on that one. Tasos, ofcourse has told us all months ago that this game was ready for launch over eight weeks ago and was running better then most mmos on the market, blah blah blah. Well, if that were truly the case, do you think the NDA would still be up and everything would still be kept such a secret? Ofcourse not, they would want the publicity and word of mouth about how great their game was for as long as possible if they were REALLY confident about the state of their game. Any fool can see that.

To me and others, there really isn't much mystery at all about the reasons for their keeping everything so "shush shush" all these weeks. We have seen this before with many other mmos. Their game, if the truth were to be known to the public, is in a state of shambles and simply not running even half as good as the great Tasos has been publicly proclaiming for months on end now.

This is not hard to see or understand.

So really fans.. Why all the excuses now? Why all the backing up of Tasos and the game when you really don't even believe what you are saying yourself. You know better. And what about all the fans a couple of months ago that have suddenly went into hiding? Where did all of them go?

Look guys (and ladies).. I totally understand your desire for a game that isn't like all the others out now and your desires for a game that is 180 degrees opposite of WOW and LOTRO. I get that. I would like seeing nothing more myself, trust me. But I cannot let wishful thinking or desires outweigh the cold, hard truth that stares us all in the eyes now.

To make it simple, do you really think Blizzard or Turbine would trade even 1/100th of what they have now on the market to be in Aventurines shoes right now? Now be honest. Ofcourse not! Anyone that envy's Aventurine right now isn't thinking straight. All their promises after such a long history of development with this game. And their game probably is not even close to being ready and in a state that can even be competitive to the major mmo games out right now. And furthermore, I don't even think they have the knowledge or ability to fix it and make it work as they have told us it would work. Right now, I honestly think that Aventurine is up the creek without a paddle and praying that this mess turns up the best that is possibly can.

Lord help them. They are gonna need it and all the magic dust they can get their hands on. If they just had a magic reagent vendor in their client working, maybe they could even double click him and hope that he had some magic dust for sale that they could buy out. But even that magic vendor is still not a part of their own game yet. Lord help them, like I say....

- "Wis Quas" (Time to come out from hiding Tasos and Aventurine) {grin}

- Zaxx

 

 

As much as I'm creaming for DF, isnt that the same excuse that AoC used? Ugh. I wish they would just say "Look, man. The game doesn't look excessively good. It has problems. We'll release it when its finished." Then they would get points for some kind of integrity.