Originally posted by NovaKayne

Originally posted by huxflux2004

Originally posted by Mazin

 

Im telling you what left and right means in America, they mean different things in different parts of the world.

Being a whack far right extremist means you believe in no gov't whatsoever, being a whack far left extremist means you believe in gov't being the answer for everything.

America in general (the everyday person that you dont see on tv) is center right meaning we want our freedoms to pursue life as we see fit but realize the need for gov't to keep things civil.

 

Well, I understand what you are saying. Let me remind you what too much freedom to the financial institutions did. And since America is not on its own planet, this freedom hurt the entire global economic system (which includes American companies that trade abroad).

Go back and you will find the changes to what was made by the government in the 2000 to 2004 era de-regulated areas that lead to this finiacial fail.  None of those government "friends" are being held accountable yet, they performed a basic "ponzy" schedme for which Madoff (sp) is being accused. 

I am not sure I understand, but didn't you have a Bush administration since 2000? Again, I might not understand your point here.

I think that you cannot separate the States, as having its own political system and ideologies. We live in a globalized environment. Supporting a government (Bush - Republicans) with no environmental consciousness might seem profitable locally, but it will backfire on America in the near future.

Convince the Chinese, Russians, India and other emerging countries to conform to this first.  The changes that America are being requested to make would have less of an impact than any 1 of those contries.  Why hold US to a limiting system when the rest of the worlds emergeing markets are left to polute at will?

You are putting some third-world countries in front of the States and say "it's their fault"? Is this how much you value your country? US should LEAD the world in environmentalism. Are the Europeans stupid to adhere to the regulations? You -along with Europe- have the diplomatic power to convince all the countries you mention, but choose to leave the pitch and nuke the whole idea. Way to go, America!

Mindlessly bombing far away countries might seem to help expand the economy of the States, but wait until millions of homeless refugees from these destroyed places come to your cities, or your allies cities.

 Mindlessly bombing?  Do you really believe we just pick a country and say "Your turn"?  So, the endless number of attacks on the US from 1993 to 2000 that were not pursed nor punished ended in peace?  Oh, no it ended in a plane vs building match.  Yeah, no "mindless bombing". 

Actually, no. You pick a country WITH OIL and say "Your turn". As for the plane vs building match: give the world a break. Everyone knows what happened there. And for me and many others, controlled demolition is a much more suitable term than terrorist attack. By the way, where are the planes that hit the Pentagon and crashed in Pensilvania? Don't get me wrong, I hate terrorism as much as you do and I know that you have suffered alot. But I don't buy the 11 September tale.

The Nazi government in Germany, was right winged and was one of the strongest, strictest and most totalitatian governments that ever existed. I cannot believe that far rights in the US are anarchists. Put away the book you read that, don't talk again to the person that said that to you. Far right is someone who has the American Flag above everything. Far right is someone who believes in the superiority of the White Race. Far right is someone that would send his police to crush the protesters on the street. Far right is going to burn the books, censor the media, wage war on its neighbours, dissallow freedom of religion. Rule with an iron fist in general. Your belief about the left and right wings is wrong, even in the American context.

See, that is a difference in opinion based upon rhetoric from both sides.  Far left could be taken as those who want to concede to every bully.  Destroy religion and not allow it.  Send thugs into the streets to enforce political correctness.  I think you have right wing confused with fascist.  A fascist believes in might makes right, regardless of ideology.  So you can be a left wing fascist that beats down everyone who does not aggree.

I am talking about FAR right, and Mazin's wrong belief about far right being an anarchy. I totally agree that fascism exists in both sides. Actually the differences between far left and far right are just ...cosmetic.

 

Originally posted by Mazin

 

Im telling you what left and right means in America, they mean different things in different parts of the world.

Being a whack far right extremist means you believe in no gov't whatsoever, being a whack far left extremist means you believe in gov't being the answer for everything.

America in general (the everyday person that you dont see on tv) is center right meaning we want our freedoms to pursue life as we see fit but realize the need for gov't to keep things civil.

Well, I understand what you are saying. Let me remind you what too much freedom to the financial institutions did. And since America is not on its own planet, this freedom hurt the entire global economic system (which includes American companies that trade abroad). I think that you cannot separate the States, as having its own political system and ideologies. We live in a globalized environment. Supporting a government (Bush - Republicans) with no environmental consciousness might seem profitable locally, but it will backfire on America in the near future. Mindlessly bombing far away countries might seem to help expand the economy of the States, but wait until millions of homeless refugees from these destroyed places come to your cities, or your allies cities.

The Nazi government in Germany, was right winged and was one of the strongest, strictest and most totalitatian governments that ever existed. I cannot believe that far rights in the US are anarchists. Put away the book you read that, don't talk again to the person that said that to you. Far right is someone who has the American Flag above everything. Far right is someone who believes in the superiority of the White Race. Far right is someone that would send his police to crush the protesters on the street. Far right is going to burn the books, censor the media, wage war on its neighbours, dissallow freedom of religion. Rule with an iron fist in general. Your belief about the left and right wings is wrong, even in the American context.

The freedom to pursue life and the government to guarantee that the system does not brake down is represented by Obama and the Democrats - at least that is what is closest to it currently. Don't mistake the right to own gun with civil liberties. It is just a cheap trick to make you think the Republicans are "liberal". People don't need guns in a correctly working society anyway.

Originally posted by Mazin 

 <Left============================Center========================Right>

Total gov't control over everything          Middle Ground                             No gov't anarachy

As far as theory of politics goes, this is very simplistic and also wrong. You can have anarchy on both sides and you can have totalitarian regimes on both sides as well. I quote the following from Wikipedia, which contains a wealth of very neutral information about politics:

"Generally speaking, it can be said that the right wing often values tradition and social stratification while the left wing often values reform and egalitarianism."

It seems that in the States you define the world around what policies and actions your governments want to push. The whole American ideology still revolves around the Cold-War anti-communist passion. "We are free people, they are communists". This is far from the truth and if you want to have a serious opinion about these matters, you need to read and break loose from what McCarthy was preaching in the 50's.

Originally posted by Mazin

Originally posted by huxflux2004

Originally posted by Mazin

 

Even if they are extremely poor?

Yes even if they are extremely poor, no one is denied healthcare in America.  To go further on that I mean no one is denied it even the 40 million illegal aliens.

Is this why the States are ranked 46 (according to the CIA factbook) in infant mortality? That is 2 places below Cuba, by the way...

Originally posted by Mazin

Originally posted by huxflux2004

You guys were ruled by an idiot for 8 years and now you complain about Obama? Gosh, some Americans are unbelievable. Even if you are a war-petrol-and-destruction-loving Republican, you have to admit that Bush was not the most suitable person to be the leader of the most advanced and powerful country in the world!

 

In the next election, just vote for the dumbest guy possible. That way, you will at least know you cannot expect much and everyone will be happy. Obama's biggest challenge is the Americans expectations from him. Something that was not the case with Bush! He was just to stupid and corrupt for people to expect anything from him...

 

And that's why Obama won the election, because most Americans were so fed up with Bush, yes even Republicans.  America is a center country, Obama is far left.

He is popular, yes.  He's policies are not.

If you read on international politics, you will find out that what you consider "far-left", is conservative or center-right in most European countries. But, even for the States, Obama is not far-left....

Originally posted by Mazin

Originally posted by huxflux2004

Originally posted by Mazin

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by AJ2ME

 

P.S. >> Most people in countries that have free health care, if they can afford it they come to America 

 

Without a doubt. US healthcare is the best in the world but only if you can afford it which most people in the world cannot.

 

Wrong again, take my story, take the story of the person right above you.  Do you live in America obviously not.

 

One person's story does not make the rule or norm, dude.

 

There is 2 stories in this one thread. 

I will repeat this again, AMERICANS ARE NOT DENIED HEALTHCARE.  Believe what you want, if your news tells you otherwise, here are 2 Americans in this thread that do not know each other from anything telling you different.  Americans are not denied healthcare!

Even if they are extremely poor?

Originally posted by Mazin

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by AJ2ME

 

P.S. >> Most people in countries that have free health care, if they can afford it they come to America 

 

Without a doubt. US healthcare is the best in the world but only if you can afford it which most people in the world cannot.

 

Wrong again, take my story, take the story of the person right above you.  Do you live in America obviously not.

One person's story does not make the rule or norm, dude.

You guys were ruled by an idiot for 8 years and now you complain about Obama? Gosh, some Americans are unbelievable. Even if you are a war-petrol-and-destruction-loving Republican, you have to admit that Bush was not the most suitable person to be the leader of the most advanced and powerful country in the world!

In the next election, just vote for the dumbest guy possible. That way, you will at least know you cannot expect much and everyone will be happy. Obama's biggest challenge is the Americans expectations from him. Something that was not the case with Bush! He was way too stupid and corrupt for people to expect anything from him...

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by huxflux2004

Originally posted by zymurgeist

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Audio Visual has nothing to do with Darkfall and Aventurine. At some point they signed a pre-agreement that never materialized.

They're still listed as Darkfall's European publisher.  That would be "something to do with Darkfall and Aventurine."

Where is that?

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Next step should be to ditch Audio Visual who have done zip point squat up to this point. Seriously why didn't these poltroons just come out and say "We can't launch NA-1 on current resources so we're going to have to charge everyone to play on each server." Would it have been that hard? Take your lumps like a man Tasos. And EU-2? Only if they close EU-1 bubbah.  You don't have the population for two servers and now you want three?

Audio Visual has nothing to do with Darkfall and Aventurine. At some point they signed a pre-agreement that never materialized.

Originally posted by patrikd23

Originally posted by -Zeno-
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By europe you  mean Athens in greece right?

Do you mean that Greece is not in Europe?

Chargeback your EU account. Buy US game.

How much did they pay you? Was it Blizzard?

Whether you like it or not, the only credible magazine/site that has reviewed DF is Eurogamer. So, until Gamespot publishes its review and gives DF a 9.5, i'll stick to the 2.

Originally posted by Cristina1

Dont buy the game because some clan members whine that they lost a city due to server crash? you must be joking, dont be a selfish kid,  lol.

I am downloadign the client since last night and I will be playing in about three hours.....buuhhhhh bye.

You are in for a bad surprize baby!

"ground braking game"

lol

Originally posted by gruminator

Originally posted by Dawnherald

Originally posted by gruminator

the question is.

what ideas can people propose that AV dont have on their frontpage as something there is ingame allready?

 

 

Ooh! Ooh! I know! Shut down the servers?

i wouldn't go that far.

i can only propose 2 things to get Darkfall back on track.

1. hire more hands, start to make it the game they promissed,, not a shadow of it. 

i know its a pvp game, and the pvp is there. but if they want to have more subs than the hardcore core of pvp'ers, they should really start make some of the none pvp stuff they have promissed.

2. sell the game to someone who can make the game the game AV wanted.  harsh, but its an option

 

Aventurine sells, but who's buying?

still just a big, empy, coccoon of shit

riginally posted by jaxsundane

 One question people look at this game as it is currently and then please logically explain to us non believers what in the blue hell have they been doing for the past ten years?

Trying to write a rendering engine (twice) and failing, while they could easily license a third-party one and save time to work on all the great features that they had promised? It would even look better. But this needs a management decision that Tacos the Lieing Monkey obviously could not make.

LOL, what does Tacos have to say about this review? DF is finally getting the official bashing it deserves!