Would be hard for a MMO with a relatively healthy playerbase to bakrupt.  You dont go under when you have hundreds of thousands of people paying you $15 a month for a game that is already made and just needs to be maintained like any other MMO out there. 

Originally posted by Chenlambacca

the game is a poor man's WoW. This game might have been very good about 5 years ago, but not now.

 

It tries to do everything that WoW does, which makes it unoriginal. It makes minor changes, such as RvR etc. but none revolutionary. This is an MMO that does nothing new and is nothing more than a short-term passtime.

 

I do not believe many people can say this is a game that will have them hooked for years and years like other MMOs have. Time to break the mould. WoW-clones will never be better than WoW.

But, I dont play wow, and have no plans (None, zero, Nada) to play it ever again.  I am however a WAR player.
 

Originally posted by Varking

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

 

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

 

The Slayer was NEVER, ever in Beta for us to test. It is completely new, not something they forget. We did get to test the Hammerer but it wasn't all that fun hence the cut of it. Don't speak of things in which you do not know.

thank you.  It is getting old how many times WAR haters spread lies and misinformation on the game.  It is time to give it a rest.
 

Originally posted by Lobotomist

There is a saying in a small Balkan country that borders a fine republic of Greece that goes something like this:

"He hides the truth like the snake hides its legs"

I think this expression is very much suitable to Aventurine and Tasos.

The amount of secrecy surrounding Darkfall is unlike any other game ever produced.

After over 6 years in production nothing is known about the game - that didnt come directly from Tasos or was reviewed and approved by Tasos. No independent journalist belonging to recognizable blog or website ever played the game (except mmo.italia ... that could as well be a pizza caffe in Napoli) The game was never featured on no festival. Simply nobody really seen the game - except few greek investors and 2-3 people that are good friends with Tasos and claim they played it.

Game was supposedly beta tested by players. And now even more suprising there is a joke "open beta" that is closed more tightly than a clam. And yet only beta leaks are 2-3 blog posts that are probably fake and 5 screenshots?

Just to illustrate this - you could see hours of leaked videos from any other MMO in closed beta. Isnt that suspicious?

And just think - they announced there will be PREORDERS , and that they will give a trial so the people can decide if the game is good before they preorder it. And than they pronounced NDA on TRIAL.

 

All in all Darkfall seems to be the best kept secret in history of gaming.

 

Why?

Darkfall is a product. You need to show a product before you sell it ...dont you?

 

Would you buy graphic card from me - if i told you that it can run Crysis on ultra resolution with maximum details and all with 200FPS.

Only catch is that I can not demonstrate this to you.
Nor did anyone ever actually seen this GFX card in action. BUT I PROMISE - buy it and you will see!

 

Its almost like they do not actually want to sell this game...

The fact is actually far simpler..and mostly harmless

 

Darkfall promised a lot. But also Dark and Light did, and Roma Victor and Mourning and Horisons...the list goes on.

They promised. They tried for 6 years. They managed a little - and now its pointless to continue. So they are releasing.

They didnt want to make a big fuss. Perhaps they are bit embarassed , even.

They want to push it in quietly. Get odd few hundred of players ( and i assure you this is the max for their servers ) Perhaps even just Greek and Italian players (hence mmo.Italia coverage) and go quietly into night...

But they unintentionally stirred big fuss... and now they dont know what to do...

 

That is simple truth of darkfall

 

 

 

 

 

For me, I wont be buying this game.  Even if I was considering it, I would never buy it on PO.  Having said all that, and this is no way a flame or me trying to start a negative discussion, but I honestly dont believe the game even exists.
 

Originally posted by Spaceweed10

We on Eltharion in EU, made it to IC today - what a complete and utter waste of time.

This is the WORST end game I have experienced in any MMO - apart from AoC.  It is outrageous.

A huge effort from Order to create the opportunity, and for what?  Order in one instance, Desdemona in the other - doing what?

Farming the same PQ over and over again for gold bags with Invader gear in them?  Mythic, is this it?  Is this what you worked 4 years for to achieve?  This game cannot hold a candle to the end game of DAoC, so what the hell has happened in the interim?

Did you sack your best imaginative brains, or are they stuck in a time warp somewhere, thinking people enjoy this mind-numbing experience?

I sat back whilst watching some of this inane activity, and thought to myself, 'ok, how do I feel about this now I'm here...'

Underwhelmed and a massively multiplayered anticlimax.

Rubbish.

find a MMO or single payer game that makes you happy.  There are plenty of choices out there.
 

Originally posted by lorndarken

as much as i would love to see them putting in the new cities and opening up the game more for city sieges to take place , that was more quest , more armor, / weapons, and fixs to the game take place,

it just wont happen till maybe later this year , so most likely it will be something lame, that no one will care about .

new classes  = bs . why dont they fix the problems that are currently plaguing the game already instead of addin more crap to it.

because mythic likes to beleive its own hype

So who says they cant be doing new classes AND fixes ?  lets not assume until we know all the facts.  But if we are to assume, I would say classes are just one part of what they have planned.  Maybe the most gmamorous part and the one that will generate the most internet buzz. 
 

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by Recant

SOE weren't very good at making games imo - they weren't masters of user interface, balance, or even gameplay, but they did manage to conceive a believable fantasy world to lose yourself in.  Initially EQ was a very social game, where your relationships with people and your social status were just as important as how uber you were.

 

That's it, this quote explain why EQ (with UO, AC, DAOC and SWG) was so good comparted to the recent shit.
Even EQ2 to a certain extent was a bit like EQ, at least at the beginning.

The new MMOs are just games online, while EQ was a living world were people was the main reason to log.
I liked to build my reputation within the community as much as building my gear set, if not more.
In modern MMO this is totally absent and that's the reason why people who played EQ cannot find a MMORPG to play for more than few months.

I couldnt agree more.
 

New classes, some new PvP ideas implemented and a good amount of new PvE content. 

Originally posted by NightBandit

I didn't even last the first month, for me it lacked enough content and while the PvP was fun it didn't hold me and I pulled the plug on another repetitive game. Time has come for these companies to start producing games that can do what it says on the box and if they fail then we need to be getting our money back, the laws need changing so that these companies are held responsible end of...

your sig, says you play Vanguard...do you think that game delivered any of what it said on the box ?
 

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Don't believe the hate.  This game kicks ass.  While there is room for improvement in tier 4 RvR, the game is still a blast to play and well worth the money.

agree.

Originally posted by orlac

It's like a medeival Team Fortress 2.

 

Just wish they used that engine....

its all about the WAAAGGGHHHH !!!!
 

Originally posted by tigris67

 No thanks. the day they made took out corpse retrieval was the last straw for me.

this is one of the reasons I quit, way back in kunark.  One night after spending hours trying to find my corpse I decided the game was turning into something much more as it cut into my nights sleep for work the next day.  I realized I had better things to do with my $12 then paying SOE to frustrate the heck out of me.
 

I will believe DF exists when it releases.

Originally posted by Elikal

Its something I ponder. I realized, often I leave a MMO on my HD for a long time, but in the last 2 years or so, when I stopped played a MMO, I never returned for more than a few weeks. Most of the time after 2-3 weeks the same badness begins and I play less and then not anymore again. Best is 6 weeks, and then I leave again, when some big expansion pack came. When I leave a MMO, I usually see it has reached its max. potential for me, and often when I come back out of a whim or curiosity or boredom, after some weeks I realized it was right to leave. I just dont find me way back into games, once I quit.

Do you really return and stay and feel the MMO really has changed? Examples??

most of the time I only stay for a very short period of time.  In general, I think I am liking the MMO genre less and less.  Playing the Witcher right now and loving it.  At the moment I have cacelled all my MMOs.

Originally posted by ZtyX

Do preorder this game.

 

It only costs a few dollars and you get to actually play the game when it finally releases after all this time.

It would be stupid not to preorder. It's your right not to. But, I definitely don't recommend it.

besides. if you pre-order you also give them more money so they can set up more servers, run the game for a longer time if it turns out to get into difficulties.

You even get to play the game for like a week or so prior to the release. I think that's pretty neat.

 

But, hey!.. If you don't preorder it just means that somebody else will. :) I know I will preorder within the first hour of those news. If I see it. I hope I do. .. I just wanna get in and give this game a chance. 

 

No matter what happends with Darkfall, it's still the most daring and visionary game out there. I think we all deserve to give it a real chance and treat it well. Cause we've been bitching for years and we keep complaining. Now Darkfall is coming around to save us. Finally. .. let's show some gratitude.

 

I know I will.

Be a smarter consumer.

 

I appreciate your opinion, but I will NOT be Preordering this (if it even comes out).
 

Originally posted by Axxar

WHA even has Slayer and Choppa forums up now.

oh ya.
 

Originally posted by JudgeThane

The OP sounds like a whiner. I have a 32 IB that does quite well in scenarios. It does help to have good healers but I have done just fine and stayed alive for most of the time limit in some scenarios. I  don't even know how to play my IB all that great either.  lol

I will admit that I hate most of the SC maps tho.

I miss Reikland Factory SC.  Would love for them to bring that back on a permanent basis.
 

my character is lvl 60, so as long as their are a good amount of players post 40 I think I would be fine with that.  When I was playing years ago the newbie areas were always deserted.
 

martial arts type rpg.

thinking on giving it a try myself.