Originally posted by MadnessRealm

Originally posted by egotrip

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

How about a Demo? Basically, a single player Demo of DarkFall with a single race and starter zone, scripted PKers who comes by from time to time, decent crafting spots, goblins/zombies/trolls with good AI. Demo would not have a time limit. Player could play as long as they wants and once they feels confortable with the game mechanic, well he can buy DarkFall and join the MMO server.

 

I'm actually serious. It's somewhat easy to make.

I have not seen the results of the 10 day free trial cards on EU yet but I would really like to avoid a Free Trial. It would be terrible.

I'm not gonna elaborate too much on the morality and ethics behind this "idea" of yours because this could go on forever ; so i'm just gonna touch the issue of players that will try the "single player demo", will buy the game and after the month is over and are unsatisfied will claim a refund based on false advertising . In lamest terms : the experience of the single player version does not depict an accurate portrait of the actual  Massive Multiplayer Online experience which completely changes the whole concept of the game  and that is a situation that AV could find themselves into should they go that way.

On the light side of things if they do decide to go with that idea they wouldn't find themselves in a situation too unfamiliar to them (double-billing, being blacklisted by major credit card companies etc, etc)

And for the record the 10 day trial is the best idea they had so far (yeah i know it's limited to Greece and not every potential customer can get access to it but it's A) Better than nothing and B) speaking volumes for the company's decisions so far)

P.S.Next time leave the picture in ,it's there for a reason

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

How about a Demo? Basically, a single player Demo of DarkFall with a single race and starter zone, scripted PKers who comes by from time to time, decent crafting spots, goblins/zombies/trolls with good AI. Demo would not have a time limit. Player could play as long as they wants and once they feels confortable with the game mechanic, well he can buy DarkFall and join the MMO server.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by egotrip

Besides once one is done playing games on the PC one can always download porn, that's what the internet is for.....isn't it?

 

Dude I want to click your link feeling that it maybe a awesome porn site that I may not know about but im afraid.

No guts, no glory

Besides once one is done playing games on the PC one can always download porn, that's what the internet is for.....isn't it?

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by egotrip

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Anubisan

Originally posted by Fariic

 

This.
If you join while there's still only a EU server, you can transfer to the NA one free when it opens.

 

I feel like I've heard that somewhere before....

 

DFO kept their word

/facepalm

Yeah but only after they were faced with the "crucial" dilemma of  losing 50%> of their current playerbase due to a typo { yeah that's what we'll call it } of changing their policy from "one character per server" to "one character per account"

Phew that was a close call, imagine if they actually had lost half their playerbase due to a "typo"

 

Wrong. 1 character per account means simply what it says: i character per account. If you had an account with a dfo character on it and you wanted to transfer you character you would need to create another account or delete you character. /facepalm

Must we go to the part where they claimed that in order to play in the NA server on launch one must buy the client due to copyrights for the NA server being owned by a different distributor *couch*, bullcrap,*cough* and that transfers would be allowed from EU to NA in a few months time from the NA launch for a nominal fee , which caused all the uproar and had a good portion of the playerbase screaming bloody murder and threatening to quit?

No really must we?

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Anubisan

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by sickan

Yeah, there will probabely be N/A servers soon. But you should be able to play fine even at their EU server. I am playing with americans daily, hell, even players from Australia and they are at same fps as me!

Just come join, and when the N/A servers is up, just switch to that one... =)

 

This.
If you join while there's still only a EU server, you can transfer to the NA one free when it opens.

 

I feel like I've heard that somewhere before....

 

DFO kept their word

/facepalm

Yeah but only after they were faced with the "crucial" dilemma of  losing 50%> of their current playerbase due to a typo { yeah that's what we'll call it } of changing their policy from "one character per server" to "one character per account"

Phew that was a close call, imagine if they actually had lost half their playerbase due to a "typo"

Originally posted by Cecropia

Originally posted by Devour

Originally posted by Ruyn 

You are talking like you are an investor not a player.  All a player needs is a full server.  Darkfall has this although it is a huge world that can hold a lot more.  The updates and expansions are occurring regularly.  Darkfalls niche is getting bigger.

A player also needs the promise that the game will survive to at least validate the box purchase, nevermind the subscription fee.

Darkfall does not have this.

 

Nobody knows if the game will survive, only time will tell.

That's true but people can always keep guessing.........

I don't know if it's the best time to drop the NDA since i believe that if it was a matter of choice for them they would've gone with keeping the lid on things and maintaining the hype until the game actually releases.

However at this point lifting the NDA is a more , ethically speaking , "honest"  decision than acting like an ostrich and bury their heads in the sand trying to simply wish the bad things away by keeping the NDA up after the proverbial shit hit the fan with those video leaks ; as to how is this gonna prove to be a smart decision or not only time will tell..........

Darkfall  Hardcore > than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3

Originally posted by Forumfall

Men that play females have some serious issues. Probably some cloth fetish they can't live out in the real world.

Get professional help you pathetic people.

Judge not, that ye be not judged

EDIT: Besides i thought that was what the acronym MMORPG stood for in the first place

just j/k

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by xanphia

I think we can all agree that a free trial would bring in more players, but would also upset the delicate balance of world pvp and economy that established. Depending on how long the trial would be.

 

I don't see how a bunch of naked people with no skills would upset anything.

 

 

That's what they said about the Zulu!

And here i thought all this time that the British won that war......

But enough of recent history let's go back in time with a time machine..............time machine.............time machine ,     2 o'clock .......5 o'clock ........ 3 o'clock ...........trrrrrrrrt........

All the way back to 11/17/09 12:04:02 PM when this thread was created and dinosaurs ruled the earth

Originally posted by trashburnin

<SNIP>

Its time to retire this claim that AV lied to you and is out to scam you by not having all of the features it said it would have at launch.  If you notice on the box of any mmorpg it says "gameplay experince may change".  I have never bought an mmorpg game that had everything in the game exactly as it was in the game manual.

Just to point out  that Darkfall doesn't even have a boxed version of the game; which i believe is imperative in order to have that statement actually written on it ;so your entire "argument" goes out the window right there without me having to actually go through the rest of your post pointing out the sheer lunacy of it, thankfully..................

And no, no funny pictures for you or at least not from me, it would be a complete waste.

Originally posted by Ruyn

He doesn't need to pvp at all.  You can harvest and craft to your hearts content.

Originally posted by Agricola1

Well I agree with Zorvan that this is a disgusting attempt to have decent honest folk like myself shill the game for child slave worker wages and I refuse to be a part of this immoral and depraved plan masterminded by the evil Tasos!

 

Having said that,

 

Click the link below or the kitten gets it see, and any squealers to the MODs will get swiss cheesed see?

This is getting out of hand i'm calling the S.W.A.T

Originally posted by Cecropia

Originally posted by egotrip

Hmm, and you figured this out from a picture of a lolcat i posted?

 

 

Or maybe he checked out your post history which consists of constant negativity towards DF.

You spend too much time in forum you seem to rip apart far too often.

Oh yeah sorry i forgot that if one has 300 or 3000 posts mindlessly praising a game without bothering to question the {why} and the {who}  it's "ok" that just makes one a fan ,,even a passionate one for that matter. But if someone goes the other way is simply "a hater", "a troll","not hardcore enough", "an unworthy one" [put your ad hominem here]..............Thanks for perpetuating this concept and please feel free to add further labels to people in these forums but don't expect people just to stop posting on a public forum just because you or anyone other just don't like their opinions ;if you want a place where people only post the opinions you agree on create your own blog.

Originally posted by Izure

Everyone else noticed egotrip is complaining about every thread about darkfall? lol it is like someone bashing a toothpaste brand because he works for a different toothpaste brand, yet he does not get paid. lol

 

Anyways this advertisement scheme is a good start for population.

 

But I feel that the reason why egotrip trolls and hates darkfall, is because he sucks at it. Now I do not mean this in a bad way( not for him at least) but darkfall in its current state is a strictly pvp game for the most part. And with the less content it has the less players it will attract and it is a dangerous slope downhill when it comes to population.

Darkfall needs more pvp balance, but most of all it needs Carebear activities, RPG activies, Lore Activites, More options in crafting, a better economy, Specialized crafters of all sorts that can make their own name brand items the way they want. Also better PVE, more dev events, continued big expansions, local banking, more melee depth, virtual address space( it is not that bad just got to relog once every 3-5 hours), continue the fight on hackers/exploiters/buggers( they getting better, only heard about lol 1 on NA and seen  none since launch on EU). Casinos gladiator  gambling, they are starting to add more options in game, WHICH IS GREAT IMO.

 

I told the DEVS of MO that a pvp only based game will be a horrible game, Unless it does not have a grind and has a timer on matches... oh wait Counter strike is like that.

 

I like seeing the devs putting the RPG back into the mmorpg of darkfall kudos.

Hmm, and you figured this out from a picture of a lolcat i posted?

 EDIT: Also plsplsplsplspls point me out the "hating" part................if not for anything else just to satisfy my curiosity

Originally posted by xzyax

Heh... you should know by now Egotrip that I don't offend very easily. 
 

 

Not sure what you mean by "similar research" though?

 

As far as I know, the numbers presented from the two links:

EU: df.urme.com/index.php

US: darkfallinfo.com/pmap/index.php

 

Are the numbers exactly as they appear in the in-game clan journal.

Can someone who has an active sub. confirm or deny that part?

 

I know of no other metric that will give clan counts other then the in-game clan journal. 

If that is not what you meant, by all means elaborate.

 

No, you just about got it right i simply expressed the thought that many have pondered before : that it would be nice to have a more accurate way of counting player numbers (unclaned people, banned people, re-subed people etc, etc)because as you mentioned "since now one doesn't have to be subscribed in order to see the Clan counts." .Which basically is just people in clans leaving a 10-20% gap for error for the entire population of each server (yes it's just a number i pulled out of my a$$) , plus i can't help but think of the day that somebody gets some funny idea of limiting the viewing of those number to subscribers only, which go ahead and call me a pessimist but it has been proposed before for Darkfall.

Still yours and rhinoks's numbers as good as we can get atm and definitely more accurate than other numbers that have been thrown around here from time to time since Darkfall is portrayed to be a heavily clan based game even by the most loyal of fans so even they can't disproove their own words (but i'm sure they'll try anyways ).

Not bad xzyax, not bad at all.................

Still i hope that nor you nor ripper don't take my following words in anyway offencively and whilst i overall agree with the numbers since they definitely seem both as plausible and as accurate as numbers of such can be ; it would be quite nice to see some similar research by a seemingly, fairly , reliable source using perhaps same or better plausible and accurate numbers.

I mean just for the sake of conversation and to have something to compare your numbers to......