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You know,  why cant we have both sides of the coin in the game?


Keep the cartoon styles, as well as add fine detailed charcters as well.    It would be no differant then adding a beard or no beard to characters.  I think the more options and choices people have for thier characters look is a good thing.


I remember playing wow for quite a while and I would prefer a level of detail of that degree at the very least.  I dont think kids who played wow from ages 5+ had a problem with seeing detailed characters in thier game.


So I say, why not have both kinds, and at character creation we can put a more cartoony look or a more serious look into our characters.   Seems to me, that if you can add facial expressions, then adding differant styles of looks to a character from cartoon to serious would be easy.  


Why would you have to alienate grown ups or children, let them all have their piece of the pie!

As an old EQOA player, I used to play a monk that looked pretty cool.    Blue Hair combed back, with beard, and eyepatch.  Wore cool monk robes, sea farers was pretty cool.

Next I played EQ2,  Had a bard that looked pretty cool as well.  White hair sleeked back, with a mediterranean look to him.

Next I'll be playing EQ Next.   I dint care too much for the simple low detailed look of the characters.  but then I saw a video on thier main website.  Life of consequences -  2:10 minute.

It looks like the character has a pretty detailed outfit on and the looks are more serious then the previous versions you see in landmark.   

I also noticed on their main website the more detailed look of the two characters on the main website background.   Which showes a higher detailed elf woman and a detailed man with a pick that looks really cool and the way I could see the final product of characters in this game looking like.


What do you think?    Are they starting to change characters looks to being more cool and higher detailed and even sexy looking?

Here, this is a list of RACES and SKILLS from SKYRIM

Originally posted by rodarin

Its not a vanity item, it is a class. If it were a cloak or a set of armor that you wore on your whatever THAT would be a vanity item.

ITS NOT A CLASS  it is a RACE....  even your Class skills are more important then RACE SKILLS.....   I hope this can help clear up the misunderstandings you have.   

Originally posted by Miblet
Originally posted by fistorm
Originally posted by colddog04
Actually, racial skill lines are fairly potent in this game. It's one of the things that helps separate it from other games.

What makes you think ESO would hand over an unfair advantage with one race over another?   Every race has its strong points and weaknesses,  what makes you think Imperial will be GREATER then 9 other races?   Do you really need 10 race options when you already have 9?   To me that's just plain VANITY.

Every race will have strengths and weaknesses that is true.  The concern (and it is valid as much as you say it isn't) is that for one or more play styles the racials will provide a significant advantage and make the Imperials THE race to play.  It happens in almost every game that has some form of racial ability, I doubt this one will be any different.  Only in this one they will be behind a pay wall.  In a subscription based game.

Now I'm not saying the Imperials would be the best at everything but then they don't have to be, just one thing.

WoW vanilla Forsaken rogues.  EQ Ogre Warriors.  Balance is a fleeting illusion.

The most powerful THE SKILL to use in game are your WEAPON SKILLS, AND GUILD SKILLS.   your race skills are minor, and will NOT WIN you any battles.   Lets think EQ 2 racial abilies here......    How powerful you think those would be to win you a battle.   I hope I have put this into reasonable sane context for you.

Originally posted by Joejc7135

So by that logic your cool with just 3 zones to level in instead 6? I mean you could pay seperately for the other 3...on top of your box price and sub fee....but you aren't missing out if you don't...just vanity....


In fact...why stop there right? How many melee classes does this game have? Well I say only give us 1, melee class is a melee class after all...only difference is animations/look/flavor....ALL VANITY I SAY.


In my eyes...vanity items are..I dunno...mounts...pirate hats...novelty items that make fireworks...cosmetic effects on skills....


Vanity items AREN'T - Classes/races/Skills/zones/dungeons/raids/pvp maps/skill points/basic social/grouping features


Wow.  what a far out there statement,  1/10 races does in no way equal 3/6 zones....     Mathmatically impossible


You have ACCESS to EVERYTHING IN GAME,    IF you think 1/10 races is so important and so powerful, then pay the 20 bucks, because its NOT!!!    let me repeat,   1 out of 10 races IS NOT WORTH 20 bucks.....


If That was all they put into a CE,  I would NOT BUY the CE,   I'm going to be playing Khajit!!!  DO YOU GET?


Stop trying to twist minor VANITY and SPOILED items and comparing them to actual gameworld access, its not even in the same ballpark.

I'm satisfied with my candybar even though I'm getting my CE and STILL playing Khajit!!
And as for being another race in another alliance....  You can do that at 50 if you don't want to have that luxury at the start of the game.
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fistorm

Really?  You have 9 choices of races, and your mad about 1 extra one?   If you don't have money to spend why would you spend 20 bucks on just one extra race?   Very very VANITY.   I'm going to be getting the CE, but I'll be playing Khajit, that Imperial race can sit on the self for me collectiong dust.    I dint like imperial race in other ES games why would I want to choose that?   You pick the race that you liked most in past ES games.  


Crying about not having access to 1/10 races when they are all equally as powerful seems a bit SPOILED to me.   Its like crying over a candy bar because you only got 9/10 of the candybar... 

It's actually not just vanity. Your racial choice gives you a skill line that affects your character directly.

AND that's why I'm being KHAJIT.... 

Originally posted by TinglySidewinda


Its bull**** not to give everyone the same choice.  Charging 20+$ more for that option is retarded.

I dont care about playing imperial scum, but if they have the option to play any race any alliance... that is not fair.


Really?  You have 9 choices of races, and your mad about 1 extra one?   If you don't have money to spend why would you spend 20 bucks on just one extra race?   Very very VANITY.   I'm going to be getting the CE, but I'll be playing Khajit, that Imperial race can sit on the self for me collectiong dust.    I dint like imperial race in other ES games why would I want to choose that?   You pick the race that you liked most in past ES games.  


Crying about not having access to 1/10 races when they are all equally as powerful seems a bit SPOILED to me.   Its like crying over a candy bar because you only got 9/10 of the candybar... 


If you want to be SPOILED, which is what a CE is for, then spend the cash.  If you don't care to be spoiled, then don't spend the extra 20 bucks, save it and be one of the other equally powerful races.

Originally posted by colddog04
Actually, racial skill lines are fairly potent in this game. It's one of the things that helps separate it from other games.

What makes you think ESO would hand over an unfair advantage with one race over another?   Every race has its strong points and weaknesses,  what makes you think Imperial will be GREATER then 9 other races?   Do you really need 10 race options when you already have 9?   To me that's just plain VANITY.

Most people should have realized by now that Race skills are no greater then Class skills.   There is no advantage to having imperial race.  It is the equivalent of a VANITY ITEM. 


I don't understand the outrage over this.   Your Characters skills most important to battle will be your WEAPON SKILL and the GUILD you choose to join in game.   Not some race or class,  lets put this in some prepective here at the very least.


The choice to be on any Alliance as any race, is also just VANITY,  as all races are not more powerful then each other..... 


The main reason to ACTULLY WANT this is to join friends of other alliances as the race you want.   I'm sure it took development time to make this happen, so 20 bucks extra for not just that, but all the other goodies is definatly reasonable for them to ask for.


You will actually have the option to join friends of other alliances at 50, that was talked about in the Q&A,  so having that option at the START of the game is a LUXARY,  NOT A MUST to play with friends of other alliances.

Originally posted by Moodsor

I am disappointed in you Bethesda and Zenimax.


Dunno about you guys, but to me this is not ok as a pre-order perk, and it also seems wrong lore wise.

Its my money, I spend it how I WANT TO SPEND IT.   


something someone else gets is NOT OK with YOU?  


You either be JEALOUS or you PONY UP THE DOUGH..      Alliance race is no more then VANITY.....



Standard edition gets ONLY 3 days.


Collector edition Buyers get 5 days.

Ouch, you broke your NDA in OP.
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
See poll and title.




I will be buying the collectors edtion.    For only 20 bucks more you get the race choices, which is just like paying for the first month which is the 30 day free trial anyways.




[mod edit]

I wont lie, I am an ES fan and have really liked what I seen over the last month here on the game.  So take what ever I say in context of that.  I don't expect you to be as excited as me but at same time I am what I am!


Probably the first CE I been excited to buy even before its annoucment since when I bought my AoC CE.  I just hope they offer lifetime subs also,  I really wanted the LOTRO lifetime sub back in the day and regreat missing out on it, I think this one would be really great to have.  Cause this is the game I would buy a lifetime with, and that's coming from a person who felt burned by the STO pre order lifetime. 

More to come I think.


Originally posted by PsychoticHamster
Paying extra for race now... what's next? What usually guaranteed and inalienable part of the MMO are companies going to start monetizing next? Are we going to pay for access to a faction next?

Well race actually is just like class, its not going to mean anything in the end,  The skills from your weapons define who you are, like your Bow, or Magic, or Axe,  and your choice of Guild.

ESO this morning has now Officially released the Collectors Edition this morning for preorder.  Let me start by going over each item in detail.   They say the digital will be 79.99 and the retail box will be 99.99


Digital Collectors Edition  $79.99  for PC and MAC.  This includes the Digital Bonus items, and if you preorder the Digital Collectors Edition. 


What you get:


1. Play as an Imperial

Play as an Imperial and play in any Alliance. Gain unique bonuses, crafting styles, gear and more!





Summon this Imperial mount and journey through Tamriel with increased speed.                 




Explore Tamriel with this vanity pet scuttling along by your side.




Complete the Ritual of Mara with a friend and receive an experience bonus when you play together.




Ability to craft Imperial style when crafting gear.





Transform any gear you own into imperial styled gear.



If you Pre-Order the Digital Collectors Edition you get these four items:






        VANITY PET


        MAPS Your bundle of bonus treasure maps will lead you to hidden chests full of loot. 



 It looks like a lot of bonus items witht he digitial pack.   Mudcrabs were in a lot of the streams in past ES games that gave crab legs for alchemy.   Another instresting thing was the Rings of Mara.  Mara in ES games happens to be the goddess of Love,  marriage and family.   Now you REALLY can marry your xp buddy...  Bromance anyone?    The Transforming of gear into Imperial Armor seems to be really nice, I think a lot of people will like this feature of the CE,  great Vanity item to have. 


Now the preorder things are really Special,  the ability to be any RACE in ANY ALLIANCE that you CHOOSE to be.   People have really been asking for this and its part of the PRE ORDER bonus.  Another thing I find VERY instreasting and looks to be a really cool feature....  BONUS TREASURE MAPS...   It appears to be a picture and says it will lead you to treasure.   I love these kinds of things, It really makes you feel like a pirate.


Well that's all for the DIGITAL COLLECTORS EDITION.  



Here is the OFFICIAL Retail Collectors Edition and what it includes:


Box Collectors Edition    for PC and MAC

You get Everything that is in the DIGITAL COLLECTORS EDITON and the SAME Pre Order Items and also:


Collectors Box Imperial Edition:  $99.99



The book,  A Map,  The Statue of Molag Bal  (which is the main badguy in ESO, and a Game Manuel,



I think the CE is a great deal.    If you look the Regular edition is 59.99,   for the Digitial its 79.99,   So your actually paying 20.00 for all the a ton of stuff,  a mount, a race, xp rings.   I think that's a pretty good deal there.


The retail box which I'll be getting is around 99.99,  which is 20 bucks more but you get the two things I like the most, the book and the map.  The statue, not to be mean but will probably go bye bye.   I think that's a reasonable price to pay.   I think the statue could have been left out to reduce the cost and should have maybe added a coin or a comic book for collectors out there. 


Other then that, I'm pretty pleased with this.     I think I probably still wont play imperial just because its offered though, and the race skills are like class skills so I'll STILL be Khajit my favorite race,  I'll put my map on the wall and have the book handy for any referances in game I see.   Will be really fun I think.


Another great thing I think the retail box is offering is the ability to CHOOSE any Race for ANY ALLIANCE you CHOOSE.  Which means I can now be Khajit and STILL play with my Friends on another ALLIANCE.





Originally posted by skyline385

I was genuinely excited and waiting for this game and was willing to put it past that they are including a cash shop right at the launch seeing that it's only name changes and stuff like that. Then they drop the ball with this yesterday. No matter what angle i look from, i can not think of why it is okay to let a class be playable in a P2P game (including crafting bonuses) only if you pay 20 USD OR Euro more than the standard edition. The inclusion of things like being able to play any race in Alliance if you preorder is also not ok. The fractions were a big and integral part of this and they want to destroy just to get people to pre-order? Seeing all this,  I am terribly disappointed and this might end up the first AAA MMO (AAA because of the IP even if it fails) in years that i might just skip. What about you guys? Are you still pre-ordering this?


Wow and yest ANOTHER post that's filled with crap and speculation from something that was relased illegaly and speculated on and twisted,   over the last 12 hours its gone from lets see what they say about it first,  to   YUP ITS DEFINATLY A RACE....   guess this forum is going to crap for the next few days.  I'll still buy a CE no mater what, here comes shit train.....

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