Is there anything similar out there that is more up to date? Im looking at Dawntide but it looks like there will be no terraforming

Started playing yesterday

... fkin killed 7 hours of my day off work, 2 hours of that was making a damn fishing pole from scratch to feed myself. not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing to be honest :)

Ok no takers let me TL:DR my post

I want to try a game starting as a crafter, what game can I do this from day one where I can be useful to other players whilst making coin from selling. Im assuming it needs to be a relatively new game due to the population in lower levels needing some form of supplies. I was considering EQ2 due to the excellent crafting system but just read that the players still in EQ2 are either vets or vets power levelling alts, with no use for a starting crafter

Whats your thoughts on this being viable for Darkfall or Fallen Earth? Are there still plenty of new starters in WoW (only played the wow trial), Aion? havent read much abbout this game...Can you craft in Conan?

Im looking myself, I already have FE installed from a trial or beta (I forget) but Im also interested in DF, my prob with DF is I have only 1 gig left bandwidth till 4th may so I cant dl it.....Cant play COH again because Im an old subscriber and both wife and daughter now love the game (but there both crap at it) so Im not subscribed atm.

Even if we cant hook up you forgot one small detail btw....What bloody TZ are you haha (Im from the UK but live in Australia)

there are no servers but you can pick us or eu instances,

Restrictions ive noticed are play up to lvl 15...cant use the auction house...not sure but i dont think you can craft but without the auction house its pointless...you cant play agency v agency

Firstly get on the trial, its unlimited play upto lvl 15 (and other restrictions)

Im only in the trial myself, dont expect an mmo though because it just isnt.

PVE is fun at first, you goto a terminal and it makes a squad from other players searching then throws you into an instanced pve area, getting a squad is fairly quick at the minute.

PVP is very balanced imo, fast paced and a whole load of fun

Graphics and stability are very good even on my mid range pc

Hi guys,

Been playing Eve for nearly 5 years and although its an awesome game Im getting bored of it, the only thing keeping me there is my fellow corpies but the game itself has for some time now felt like a chore. So my accounts have been cancelled and will terminate mid next month for a well earned break (I dont doubt I will be back so no you cannot have my stuff :))

Any suggestions of a game with:

1. meaningful/fun crafting where I can make a living selling my wares (Eve was far too competative in this)
2. housing would be nice but not essential
3. decent playerbase
4. Nice world to explore and gather
5. Nice charactor progression tree
6. A level of maturity (No Hello kitty games :))

Downloading this now,

I loved Neocron1, it was my first love, havent found anything as fun since and have been spending my hours/years ganking pods in Eve.

Is this game SIMILAR to Neocron?

To an extent I do agree that she is somewhat young to be playing mmo's, but too young to be playing pc/console games in general  I have to disagree. Her time online is policed and the idea for sharing a game with her will only ollow me to police it further, Im only to familiar at what goes on in some of the chat windows and on the forums.

As far as grinding is concerned she sat for a few hours the other night growing bloody cabbages to sell on Runescape which I found hilarious as I dont suppose its a too lucrative/interesting activity to participate in, she seems destined to be an mmo junky like her dad so I think I will look further into LOTRO and Vanguard.....Do these both have player driven markets??

Hi guys

My daughter (10) has been playing a few mmo's (COH / Runescape) she struggles with the higher end of COH but does pretty well on Runescape. Im looking a game we can both enjoy playing and unfortunately in the years Ive been playing I have never regarded the trade route and have always gone for the more agressive charector roles so Im at a loss in choosing a game.

So Im looking for something where she can go out and harvest materials which she can then manufacture into an end product which she can then sell on the games market, Im hoping she will have fun and at the same time learn something from the experience.

Everquest 2 / LOTRO / Guildwars ???  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Anyone know where I can find any indication of alternative methods of payment other then CC?

I know there bringing out paypal and wouldnt mind knowing wheniiiiiish

Neocron 1 was awesome, Neocron 2 was Neocron 1 with more space and a re-jig of factions and mobs.

Last time I played which was well over a year ago the population was dead....sorry guys but you missed it

Click to play came in....Neocron died, used to be an awesome game, was my first love in the MMO world, then came click to play and Neocron 2, the game pretty much died a few months later.

I get the same message with the forums, they mailed me back saying there aware of the problem and trying to fix it.....They were kind enough to include the playtimes in this mail too.

Originally posted by Warcriminal

dude!

sounds like you should try to get into the Tabula Rasa Beta

Been spamming them but they just dont want me 

Im bored and need some views on what your playing so I might try them. I came onto the scene in 2000 and got settled into a few games but the past year Ive been bouncing around and never been able to settle.

Long term games:

Neocron - Loved this but the population dropped and killed it for me, bugs aside its still a great concept of a game.

Planetside - Still play this but its not exactly immersive obviously, more like a log in for an hour periodically game for me.

Eve - Still play this for the community side but its very dull most of the time and its a seriously big time sink of a game.

Games Ive bounced off but never got into:

COH - EQ 1 & 2 - FOM - Guildwars - LOTR  - SWG - RF online -

So what do you consider your fav mmo and why?

1,           Halflife....I dont think ive missed an episode ;)

2,           Team fortress - yeh I know, see above but this one deserves its own rating for what it achieved, and TF2 looks awesome.

3,           I have to mention Neocron 1, if you never played it or only played it for a few days you will disagree but this game was awesome and still is very unique.

This game was awesome and originally used to be payed via paypal, it was click to pay what killed it for a lot of people and dwindled the population.

When Neocron 1 was live the game was vibrant with a large population and was some of the best mmo fun Ive ever had and is still one of the most original mmo's Ive played.

I feel there decision to go back to paypal is good one but its too late to save what I consider the best mmo I've played.

nvm.....

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Originally posted by jnky

Basically what everybody else said but I do have an option for you to explore if you truly cannot afford to play MMO's

A lot of EVE online players will sell you game time card codes for ingame currency (130isk/30 day code is about right and 130 isk dosnt take too long to get depending on your skill) and CCP fully condone it (why wouldnt they) A lot of people fund alts this way quite easily so it is possible you can play EVE for free and possibly other games that have GTC's as a method of paying.

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well, not to ruin your great idea. but you probably need quit a high level char to get 130isk in a pretty short time. So you will first need to buy the game, pay for it for some months, and then maybe after a time you will be able to get some game cards.

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Not my idea, it happens everyday, look at the eve-o forums

You can join a 0.0 corp and have the skills to fly an indy which can haul for a mining team (badger2 in about 2 weeks)....A Battlecruiser can rat in 0.0 if carefull (Ferox passive tank ftw) and an Osprey (mining cruiser) with T2 lasers can mine as well as the retreiver (mining barge) and should be doable in no time.

Im know anyone of these setups are reachable during the 30 days free playtime you get from buying the game. Once you hit coveter then exhumers I know people mine 150k + per session (4 hours mining = 30 days free play) Plus your corperation will usually supply all the equipment to do this.