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OP  10/23/06 3:19:37 PM#1

Dan Fortier's second column looks at the return of Thrones of Chaos and his thoughts on their latest reincarnation.

Yes, I'm back from the brink of oblivion to run some more fingernails down your chalkboard. This week I decided to shine a spotlight on a bit of news I found disturbing.

Recently here at we added a new game called "Thrones of Chaos," which according to the new developers is based only on the concepts and engine of the original title known previously by several other names including 'Mourning'. They stated that it was to avoid starting from scratch and building an engine from the ground up. They also promised to give all the people scammed in it's last incarnation a free lifetime account as recompense for the actions of the previous team.

You can read more here.

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Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios


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10/23/06 3:42:51 PM#2
I am curious about this game and understand the shadow hanging over it. Would be nice to see a longer piece than what this is. This article seems more like trying to get a discussion going that really a rant or giving any information. Wonder if this is really more about giving some coverage on the game.

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10/23/06 4:06:11 PM#3
Seriously, get this guy off your site. He's nothing more than a fanboi for WoW and a haitboi for other games. His articles do not provoke thought, just fighting on your message boards between two groups of people who will never agree. Personaly, just out of hate for this guy, I hope Thrones of Chaos is the best thing since sliced bread.

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10/23/06 4:10:51 PM#4

lol next week Eastern vs Western mmo's, or the tough question "What mmo should I play?"

I think loudant decided to use the Mourning engine simply for publicity.  They are pretty much a no name company with no advertising or backing.  Just by using an engine that has been so terrible to the community, they can get alot more press then if they start from scratch.  I think it is a unique marketing tactic that would be great if they can pull it off.  From what I seen of the game, the characters are pretty good looking.  I like some of the hairstyles I have been seeing from them.  However, the environments still need alot of work to be up to quality.


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10/23/06 4:18:42 PM#5

Sadly the author is not getting any better.  So the moral is a game with a jaded history is going to be a hard sell?  That is less insightful than I think readers deserve.

Also, the author needs to lay off the cliches. 

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10/23/06 4:18:57 PM#6
booooring, this guy should get some work 

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10/23/06 4:37:50 PM#7
what about the same attitude with SWG? Or don't mmorpg considers NGE a type of "scam" and what they did to its players.


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10/23/06 5:52:35 PM#8
It's a weekly column you retards, not a news piece. He has every right to rant and rave, thats what columnists do.....

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10/23/06 5:57:32 PM#9

Originally posted by Draven
It's a weekly column you retards, not a news piece. He has every right to rant and rave, thats what columnists do.....
And we don't have the right to share our opinion of it? Go figure.


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10/23/06 6:07:04 PM#10

Usually I look forward to the editorials here, but this one said nothing, and said it with terrible grammar. As a minimum, staff articles and editorials should be proofread by someone other than the author.  Hopefully someone at least mildly literate.


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10/23/06 6:51:10 PM#11
Mourning, eh? Aren't these the people who sent me a CD without an activation key?
And the ones who didn't respond to my plea for help afterwards?
I may have enjoyed their game more, if I was able to install it :)


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10/23/06 8:01:48 PM#12
Who gets physically sick at the thought of an ill-fated game getting a second chance? Completely ignoring the fact that the game isn't opened up yet, I don't see how this actually affects him. Amusement, I can see. Bemusement, even. But the author of this so-called editorial sounds downright depressed about it. I had always thought of MMORPG articles as professional, not the rants of some drama queen.

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10/23/06 8:02:44 PM#13

Wow...poor guy could write War and Peace and people would still have some sarcastic remark. If he wrote "OMG NGE Suzor!!!11" you would still have people crying about how he was just trying to pander to the posters he and is fake etc.

The artile was a bit short and you needed to know somewhat the history of Mourning, but was otherwise just how I felt about the situation. I thought it was cool the way allows it's writers to disagree with the way the site is run. Keep up the good work Dan, some folks are enjoying it.


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10/23/06 8:09:15 PM#14

The post more or less is a warning and informations for the less educated in the mmrpg and I found it quite useful.

I must say that the writer was a bit harsh .

I believe everyone deserves a second chance and the time will show what they can deliver.

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10/23/06 8:11:19 PM#15

Considering he would probably not be allowed to call the game for the scam part 2? 3? that it is, I'd say he did good. Keep the guy around so he can laugh with the rest of us when ToC proves to be the same ol' shit with the same ol' devs.


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10/23/06 8:53:54 PM#16

Originally posted by kyrawolf
Usually I look forward to the editorials here, but this one said nothing, and said it with terrible grammar. As a minimum, staff articles and editorials should be proofread by someone other than the author. Hopefully someone at least mildly literate.

Agreed. Some people can write about absolutely nothing and pull it off, and maybe even bring up a few good points in the process, but not this guy. His misuse of common cliches and grammar make me wince, and the topic didn't even have any information to make it worth suffering through.

IMO, the article written previously about this game, when it was added back to the game list, was more informative than this nonsense.


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10/23/06 9:51:55 PM#17

Your little article should be aptly named MMOSTFU.

That is all.


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10/23/06 11:17:55 PM#18
Hmmm.  I'm not sure which article you guys were reading, because I was intrigued with the whole "mourning" thing.  Not too sure of the history, but it certainly deserves a WTF.  BTW, I don't think the guy is WoW fanboi.  I think that many gamers like my self have come to this site a little tired of WoW, but it is still a great game for the masses; which is all he was mentioning.  Not all of us play EVE you know

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10/24/06 12:41:07 AM#19
  Uhm does this vaporware game have fanbois already ? Whats with bashing of this article ? MMOWTF indeed.

It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.


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10/24/06 2:24:10 AM#20

I don't think the article is as bad as people are making it out to be.  I've read better and worse.

That being said, I too am a jaded gamer.  I've been disappointed many times...seen too many pretty screenshots and read to many promises that were later broken. 

If I was going to guess though I would say that starting out with an existing game engine is an intriguing idea, but perhaps it would be better to start out with a great engine as opposed to one that is not so great.  For this reason I'm a bit skeptical of their success, but I hope I am wrong.

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