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This is a guide by Torak, designed to assist players in making Adena. Please feel free to contribute your own ideas and methods, however since this is sticky it MUST remain helpful and ON TOPIC! Any attempts to turn this into pro or anti ANYTHING will be harshly dealt with. You have been warned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Making money in Lineage II starting out Originally Contributed by Torak
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This site is a bit quirky. Games, above all else, are about fun. MMORPG's are no different. If you are not having fun, find something else to do with your time and money and stop your bitchin. |
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I got something too add that I did all the time if you are not a dwarf and don't want to level one up:
First find out what your server is in most need of for basic materials (that is your varnish, iron ore, coal, charcoal, steel, etc.) Then go to Gludin and set up a buy shop for a really cheap price to buy. Then go to Giran and look around for the shop that you can sell for the most (this doesn't take long BUT sometimes people have buy shops with no words - CHECK THESE STORES OUT AS WELL - because sometimes you may get lucky and get some nice prices from *cough*adena farmers*cough*. Trust me I have gotten really lucky). And keep doing the cycle, you can easily just set up a buy shop and left it up for a bit or whenever your afk. You could also if you do not want to move your main, create an alt and put some money on him, go to Gludin and try it out. Then once you get a lot, just sell and then use freight system. ~Greatness~ MMORPG Blog |
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Cryomatrix
Novice Member
Joined: 8/19/05
Currently Playing: SWG trial on starstrider Played: WoW, L2, EVE (.25, .5, 2 years) |
Shame on you Torak,
adena making guide and you didn't ask me for help. Shame shame on you, I go pk you now on Teon. go go go go PK go go go go go. Thorakk DIES TONIGHT. Thorakk must die muhahaha. Here are some of my strategies, also did I ever send you that link of my money making tips that I made? It wasn't a link, it was an excel spreadsheet. Oh my I just checked my email, I never sent that to you. omg. I'm going to vomit some tips on how to make cash. 
Money making strategies08/18/06 at 12:15pm   
I have a few strategies that I use frequently to make some money. I hope this helps a few people start making money. Strategy #1: Buy shop/sell shop: Last night i saw someone selling S crytsals for 41.5k, and right next to him someone as buying S crystals for 43k. I checked to make sure to see how many he was buying. It was 500, i bought 500 S crystals at 41.5k and i sold em to the guy almost next to him for 1.5k profit. It may seem like a small thing, but it's amazing when you don't have money and it gave me 750k profit which I will take any day of the week. So at times check the mat sellers and the mat buyers about pricing, you may get lucky and find someone screwed up or someone is selling at a price and a buyer is selling at a higher price Strategy #2 Placement If I need to sell something, I try to find a person selling it at an obscene price and then I put just a bit lower. For example, I bought a +2 FP shield for 500k (ridiculously low price), i got it to +3, so my total investment cost was 650k roughly. I found a guy selling FP shield +0 for 4m. I put the shield at 2.99m. Sold it the next morning. I'd never buy an FP shield for more than 1.5m, but If someone didn't know prices, like most of the players on this server, they see our stores, they're like woah, Fatimah is cheap, but in reality i was overpriced but not as much as him. I forgot to say the strategy, put your sell store right next to them and make sure you have the same item msg ithat they have so if someone does /findprivatestore fp, yours lights up too. Strategy #3 This is the "I have the item how much do you want for it" trick Basically, since i check every store multiple times, I pretty much know what's on the market, so if someone spams, WTB SoL +10 or more. Which happened, and I know someone has a +16 SoL for 80m near GK. I may say, I have it how much will you pay for it, i'm hoping the guy hasn't seen the store. It sometimes works. Someone yesterday was WTB yaksa mace, of course some guy had Yaksa in their msg but he didn't see it. I msged him, we agreed on 12m + 3 squash seeds (which one went to waste grrrrrrrrr). I bought it at 13m, sold it to him at 12m and 3 squash seeds. I'm hoping my 1m for 3 squash seeds investment pays off and i get more than 1m worth. I could get one EWB and i've made money. Strategy #4 Don't feel afraid to pm the person A lot of times i'll see something I want but i'll pm the guy, even though it's a shop, they sometimes respond and when you talk to a person you can usually lower the price as most rational people aren't patient (a la myself). Plus you make good friends this way too. Strategy #5 The helmet craze The prices of helmets have increased substantially, the prices are double for B grade basically. So if you find Doom helm recipe/Bw helm recipe, i'd think about purchasing it. 60% is preferable. Then get the mats and craft away. I spent 2-2.5m crafting a doom helmet (60%) in which half the cost was the 1m recipe. I sold it for 6m, making 3.5-4m profit right there. BW sells for like 7-9m, don't bother with FP helm unlessyou have the materials there. FP helm fluctuates from 3-5m. I've bought and sold that helm multiple times getting 500k to 1.5m profit each time. It's a very easy item to sell and get rid of. Strategy #6 You never know who is a noob/ebayer If you have someone and they pm you, always give them a ridiculous price just in case they bought the account or are ebayers, when i was selling my top D +10 SoL (that i bought for 20m). I was asking for 40m or best offer. 40m is a ridiculous price to pay but you gotta always try and it usually sets you up to sell at the price. Also, be polite to whoever pms you, someone pmed me, i told him 40m he said he couldnt' afford. Then he keeps pming me and says 20m + (+3 sol) i say nope and everntually we reached an agreement of 31m and (+3 SoL which i sold for 4.5m). Always recognize who is desperate and who is patient. Strategy #7 I think everyone should do this I truly believe eveyrone should have a sell shop up 24/7 with all slots filled if possible. At times, I sell the gear that I'm using off my gear at a ridiculous price knowing that I can easily buy it back at a cheaper price. I wouldn't do this with tallum plate armor as that can get tough to find, but FP armor/helm, brig helm, BW stuff, i'll do it every time. Like last night I put up a +4 FP armor for 7m (a bad price, but not as bad as other people putting it up for 7m). I guess I should hvae done that, but then someone bought it for 7m. I know i've seen FP armors +4 for 5m, I've seen FP +0 for 4m which is just 4.5m to get it to +4. So I could replace it easily. I said what the heck, i put up my maj necklace for 15m, what do i know, someone bought it. I go look in town, see one for 12m, buy it and boom 3m profit. I wouldn't suggest doing this with weapons, as weapons aren't as liquid. Strategy #8 Craft soulshots plz. Don't buy soulshots/spirit shots, just craft it from town,yeah you don't save much , but do it over 1-78 levels and you'll save a crap load. I know i've used easily over 200,000 bss. If crafting bss saves you 6 adena per shot, then you're saving/making 1.2m adena. I know some people don't care, but over time nad the long run this adds up. I wouldn't be surprised if i've used over 500,000 bss. Strategy #9 buy low/sell high This is a good strategy but be prepared to hold on to things for a long time, this is a more feasible strategy when you have lots of liquid cash, but make sure that you do your market research before hand. Check www.l2wh.com to see price and the trend. I personally make sure the item is very liquid and can sell easily as having inventory pisses me off to no end. Strategy #10 Check stoes without msgs on them There are many stores you see in giran in which people forgot to put a msg, i check those immediately, because if they made a mistake in price, chances are it won't be picked up. So always check blank msg stores, you never know what you'll find, i've seen things i've been looking for very cheap from stores like that. I mean EAA for 822k is very cheap price, but it stayed up for 24 horus it stil lmay be up, but that store had no msg. Also, if you see someone make a sell shop right in your face, CHECK IT IMMEDIATELY to catch any mistake they make. I made 1m adena from this, when someone put stem price for 725. So check those stores immediately. Strategy #11 Staticpulse's strategy Set up buyshops, people are always willing to unload stuff for cheap cuz they dont' want to waste time in giran. So if you're logging off everynight cuz you have all your A grade or don't need anything, it's a good idea to set up buy shops in giran for key mats and what not, you could get cheap crafting items and help yourself out. Also, to those who assume they have their A grade they are all set, i think new items are coming out in C5, so you may want to have some cash laying around. Also, i assume once the c5 market hits, there will be a lot of fluctuation, so be prepared to have some cash to own the market. If i 2-boxed, i'd have one person either in buy mode or selling mode 24/7, I wouldn't have to sell items so cheap either, but alas, I don't  . Strategy #12 Do your research before you need items If you know you're going to use tallum set at lvl 61, start looking for the items early, you never know what good deals you may find. Perhaps if you buy now, you can save yoursef money later also if you do your research early, you can recognize good deals when they come up. I found tallum boots for 6.5m early on when i was lvl 60 or so and I bought it and it saved me. Also, it allows you to be patient, if you see an item for a decent price and you're not that level yet and you know that's an average price, wait awhile, if the item doesn't sell the seller often times decreases that price, if you see an item decreasing you may want to email them giving them a lowbie offer so they just get rid of it. Also, take full advantage of those people who've been spamming in giran for hours, they are desperate and you can often times get a really good deal off them. Strategy #13 Check unfamiliar sellers always I've noticed that in Giran there are 80% of the same people there 24/7. I know which guys actually give relatively good prices for sell/buy. There was a guy who gave very good prices and very bad prices he was dibanzhuan, but i haven't seen him since the PW fiasco, also Frindd usually buys for a good price, ventiloquist sells for a good price but he buys at a terrible price, him and masochist are brothers i think. Elizabetha right before you enter into crafting corner is horribly overpriced, decbolin or whatever is okay priced, jinwan buys at a decent price. lao4, or lao5 are decent but usually sell the same thing. Kiffy is was overpriced he's shouldn't even be used to measure pricing. I don't have a complete listing but I do know most of the sellers/buyers in giran and if they buy high/low or sell high/low. Getting back to teh point, if 80% of the population if not more stay the same and sell the same crap and know the prices down to an adena, check the unfamiliar names that you see. You may end up with very good deals or terribly bad deals if you dont' know pricing. I've bought FP helm for 2m, for 2.5m off people like that. I mean some idiot was selling SoM for 55m . . . I make sure to check his store everytime i see it now. I may just contact him and have him as a supplier. NOTE FROM ME: Be very wary from buying from my sellshops, in general i'm cheaper than most people as I like to get rid of inventory. But there are times, like i've shown above, that I overprice, like the +4 FP armor for 7m. It wasn't a gross overpricing, but about 1-1.5m overprice. |
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Ebay. only way for new players now adays. |
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Wow, then you must be horrible at this game then. I have never ebayed and I am pretty rich. My current character has top C-grade and some have enchants on them and plus I have almost 2.5 mil extra at lvl 42. ~Greatness~ MMORPG Blog |
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Cryomatrix
Novice Member
Joined: 8/19/05
Currently Playing: SWG trial on starstrider Played: WoW, L2, EVE (.25, .5, 2 years) |
Good job Greatness,
Most people ebay and you have top C grade and 2.5m extra at your level. I commend you for doing a great job. And yeah i was tempted by ebay very much, but I stuck to not doing it, but I did have help. Also, top C grade varies in price depending on what class you choose, if you are a mage, then it's pretty cheap, if you go melee it's kind of expensive. But good job greatness and to make you feel better, most people do ebay. I had help, when I hit lvl 40 i was able to amass only 6m in net value by myself, it's the price of soloing i guess. Then in got help in the aid of about 25m from a friend and I was able to afford FP set and +4 duals. That took all my money. From there on out I went from 30m net worth to 450m net worth in 3-4 months, then i got lucky and jumped to 1B then i became stupid and dropped down to around 750-800m. yayayayaya. Just so you know greatness, if you get lucky you'll be able to afford top B grade, but affording top A grade is a whole new story, it is so expensive it is bloody insane. If you can resist the urge to ebay when you hit A grade then you've done a really good job. Cryomatrix |
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You guys pretty much said everything...
Enjoy the game , but don't waste money on useless things. ( Mass Teleporting everytime , Haste Potions , etc... ) Try to Socialize , make a Clan , Party , Friends , etc... Because EXP / Drops are better. You will enjoy more , even if you get less Adena , it will be more fun and they can help you on many things. ( Damage Dealing , Tanking , Buffing , Healing , Selling at cheaper prices , giving items they don't need. Learn how market works : Like Razorback and Cryomatrix said if you know how the market works you can always make profit from the Ebayers , Unaware people , Idiots , Desperate people... Buy Low / Sell High , be patient , don't depend on people that are not your friends ( Your own dwarf... ) , learn to buy your items part by part so you can have it easily when you achieve the right level for the Item Grade , not only it will be easier , you will use less money to get them and they will be easier to find. You just need time , knowledge and practice. |
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Brenelael
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Joined: 10/19/06
"If I'm not back in 5 minutes... Just wait longer." -Ace Ventura |
You want to be careful with this one. This is also one of the oldest scams in L2. Example of the scam: Someone with 2 accounts will set up 2 shops right next to each other, one buying and the other selling. The one selling has D Crystals for instance for 725a each, a very high price for this item. Then you look at the buy shop next to him and you think, "This guy is an idiot....He's buying D Crystals for 750a!!!!". So you quickly buy the Crystals at 725a thinking your gonna make a tidy little profit off this other guys stupidity. Then when you go to sell the crystals to the other guy you find out that he set up a buy shop on a character WITH NO ADENA!! You just paid an outrageous price for D Crystals you are now stuck with........you got scammed. This scam has been around since Open Beta and is still used today as far as I know so buyer beware.  while(horse==dead) |
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All this is bullshit. The only way to make money in a noticeable way is buying low and selling high. If you have a dwarf you can also buy the materials low and sell the final product. |
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I find it to be most helpful to NOT buy soulshots. This saves you so much money. Sure it will take longer to kill, but you can afford your higher grade items instead of supporting the bots. You don't NEED soulshots to level up. I went from level 1-40 with a minimal amount of SS. The only ones I used were the ones given from the beginning, and some that I earned from winning D grade items from a party and getting a dwarf friend to crystalize them free of charge.
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"Make a Dwarf" You should never and i mean never be forced to roll an alt just to financially support your main. Yes many if not most people do this (go count the naked dwarves in Giran) but imo this entire mode of thinking is wrong and points out a huge gaping flaw in the fundamental design of L2. L2's economy is fucked and if you want to know why, check out this link http://soltys.ziu.info/l2.html - Everything here is good, but first read the second paragraph. http://soltys.ziu.info/l2stuff/L2isbroken.txt - Linked from the above page, last updated in August but the economy hasn't changed much since C5.
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If you're a bit desperate for some extra cash and have a friend I came up with a way a while ago that works.
Get a lower level guy (like lvl 30) and then a high level. (like 50+ or w/e). Go into a necropolisis and have the lvl 30 guy seed the mobs. Once he seeds them the level 50 kills it and the 30 harvests.
It can really speed up the killing there as the level 50 probably doesn't need to use SS and can probably kill them in a few hits. I did this for a little bit back in the day, depending on how your manor economy is it can be a huge help.
Anyways I was lucky because I had a good guild. When I hit 20 I had a guy let me get an extra SOL on my caster. Ever since then I've made my own money, a lot of it was actually from raiding.
Raiding can be great or horrible for money depending on the boss. I've gotten up to 1m of items from a boss before and I've gotten nothing while spending a few thousand SS. It all really depends on how lucky you think you are, but after awhile you can really make some cash. I personally made enough to be able to get C grade like this (just raiding a lot) and got a Sword of whispering death and full demon armor on my caster at 40.
Also events! Events can make you a ton of cash as usually any level can really do them well. Definitly take advantage of these events because a lot of times (for example) I have made a good bit of cash from them.
Finally don't worry if you can't get top gear or near it when you ding a level. I quit for a while because I was getting discouraged about B grade at 52, turns out it really isn't worth getting.
Now I'm back on a PK I'm going to make into a BD and I'm sure I'll be working on getting a lot of cash. Just remember no matter what you do don't ebay. I know it sounds tempting but the truth is if you spend $40 on a ton of gold you'll be back in no time wanting more. It might only seem like 40 bucks at the time but you'd be suprised how many people have no knowledge of making money at low levels.
Either way thats my little bit of advice. As a spellhowler leveling up raiding was probably my favorite to do, and now with the population a bit more top sided more raid bosses are open at lower levels.
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/agree i just want to say that (after u earn some cash) , u can buy and resell items . Thats prob the easy way to get fast money, Need to have some cash allready and u will need to spend a while at town checkin shops , about prices of the items, for how much peepz pay for specific items, and if u got the luck to c those items for cheap,,is indeed a easy way to get fast money.I made 85% of my money just buyng and reseling items L2*Erica BladeDancer 77/Necromancer 54 |
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or you can start again on KAIN server ( the best ) and earn adena as much as you like The Dark Myth is substance without a hint of style, a huge uncarved rock of back story, kept pure of any human interference that might have produced a consumable piece of fiction. |
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thank you for that info. It can help me a lot ^__^ thyrene ^__^ |
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Hmmm......
Torak?..... really?
He must have written this before he was killed by the child of light I guess.
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The best way to earn adena's that i was showed is hunting fortresses gaurd's for knight’s epaulettes, but you need about 3 player's at least, that has to have the lvl's from 61 to 67, a healer and 2 DD's with outside buff's. If your to lower lvl then i it's pretty much work the market a lot to afford the gear for your current lvl.
Coins of Magic lvl 40 to 60:
Wharehouse Keeper's Pastime lvl 40 to 52
Enchance your Weapon lvl 40 to 75 maybe this quest isen't worth the hassle but if you do end up in a spot where you can lvl Soul crystal's without slowing your hunting speed down then go for it. |
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www.harukonetwork.com |
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Chatting a skill!? Just play the @!#$!%@ game! 
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Another good try -if you are lucky indeed- is to enchant weapons and armors. You can get tons of millions by selling them. I know.. how the bloody hell can you enchant successfully too much an armor or a weapon? The total price for a random enchantement in a weapon, let's say a Sage's Staff +11... Able to buy it from a shop, try it. Count how much adena you will spend for the scrolls and the staff itself and how much it would be sold.. Randomly pickup items and start enchanting. I know it will be waste of adena -and time- if they all break, but they can be really well-sold.
Another way to make money is to start another char, like others said, the rich dwarves can be seem really helpful. Assistance Mages/Healers such as Prophets, Shillien Elder or Elven Elders can be also great, as you can sell exact buffs, such as Arcane Protection or the Mythic Prophecies for what some beg for..
If you find trouble in getting a nice party to go out and hunt in difficult regions, you can either start a Party Commander, what this means? Party-based Characters, such as Blade Dancers, Swordsingers, Overlords and Warcryers that provide full Party Assistance - except for the healing part. Parties is way better than soloing when needing adena. With parties you can get greater awards, as you may travel to more dangerous areas and your SS/SPS consumption will be way lower than soloing. Be patient and you may be diving into adena once! ^^
Destiny will be soon revealed, don't be that curious mortals, cause when it comes, you will painfully know.. |
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Wow nice guide. |
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Good job. Most of the options are well discussed. I have just one thing to add. For higher level characters 25+ I would recommend using the manor system as much as possible and if possible do the "sowing" in catas/necros. When sowing for materials in catas and necros you get 3-5 times the amount of the seeds that you use and thus you exchange the seeds you get extra materials and therefore more money. When doing manor in cata/necros you get aa and this you can also sell or exchange for crystal with the same grade as your weapon(and craft soulshots). The expenses that are used to by seed from the manor manager are covered completely up to 9-10 times(depends on the ?xhp increased are the mobs in which you use). |
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You can just set an item with over price and someone could actually buy it