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  dippitydodah

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Joined: 9/20/05
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10/07/06 5:00:29 PM#1
I'd want to get excited about this game, however I know better.  Turbine has dropped the ball on everything they have touched aside from AC1 which seems to have been a fluke.  Their ideas are never properly implemented and development times to fix said ideas never come to total fruition. 

After paying and playing games like Asheron's Call 2 and DDO, I can say that this company is incapable at best and I wonder if they ever actully play thier games long enough to understand how game mechanics even begin to work.   Being a huge fan of LOTR I must say I'm grieving the loss of two huge liscenses, D&D and tolkien's work which could have been large splashes in a stagnating mmo pool are simply wasted on a talentless washed up company.

sad very sad.

However that being said, the sun does shine on a dog's ass every once in a while if they pull it off all the power to em, just wouldn't hold your breath.

  majoch

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Posts: 599

10/07/06 8:35:43 PM#2
Lol, I really do hope it shines on this ones butt.
  Povey151

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Critical thought,it's not just for smart people.

10/17/06 1:19:57 AM#3
that being said...ac acquired the license for lord of the rings back before ac 2 was even released. ALL available main devs for ac1 have been working on lotr online since then. So the failure of ac1...ac2...and ddo have all existed without their top dogs working on it....and the one thing the top dogs have worked on was ac1...which in its prime...was quite a success.
  iduums

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10/17/06 10:08:09 AM#4

from mmorpgchart.com

"Launched on October 31, 1999, AC has been one of the most difficult games to get good subscription numbers for.  Historically, both Microsoft and Turbine were reluctant to give out their figures, perhaps because they were not the big success that UO, EQ, and DAoC were.  Still, I’ve managed to get a few data points that I consider reliable, and removed a few that I have since determined to be erroneous.  AC1 saw a peak of around 120,00 subscribers after the release of its first expansion pack, AC: Dark Majesty, but declined not long thereafter to around 80,000.  The current number of AC1 subscribers seems to be uncertain, but the switching of the game’s billing from Microsoft to Turbine has cut the number of paying subscribers drastically.  As of March 2006, AC1 had reportedly fallen to between 10,000 and 15,000 subscribers, although that number is disputed and could be closer to 30,000 "

I would barely call AC1 a success, when it was released there was 3 MMO's to choose from.  People decided to play EQ and UO instead of AC1.  Then DAOC came out and destroyed AC1.

They wish they had a fluke

Something ironic.  When mythic (devs of DAOC) come out with WAR it will prolly crush LOTRO.  History repeating itself.

  AzRaell33

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Joined: 9/04/05
Posts: 155

If it''s not broken don''t fix it.

10/21/06 6:30:45 PM#5

Originally posted by Povey151
that being said...ac acquired the license for lord of the rings back before ac 2 was even released. ALL available main devs for ac1 have been working on lotr online since then. So the failure of ac1...ac2...and ddo have all existed without their top dogs working on it....and the one thing the top dogs have worked on was ac1...which in its prime...was quite a success.

.  

That’s the biggest load of SH*T I have read all day.

 

Those games all three had potential out the ying yang.  turdbine has already shown us what they are capable of.  They will never produce anything better than they already have.  Strike Three.  I only wish they would just roll over before they take anymore money from kids that just look at the game titles.  You know that is the core of there marketing strategy, show them the title and make a sale

  Thamael

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Joined: 9/27/06
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10/22/06 4:23:12 AM#6

Originally posted by iduums

from mmorpgchart.com

"Launched on October 31, 1999, AC has been one of the most difficult games to get good subscription numbers for.  Historically, both Microsoft and Turbine were reluctant to give out their figures, perhaps because they were not the big success that UO, EQ, and DAoC were.  Still, I’ve managed to get a few data points that I consider reliable, and removed a few that I have since determined to be erroneous.  AC1 saw a peak of around 120,00 subscribers after the release of its first expansion pack, AC: Dark Majesty, but declined not long thereafter to around 80,000.  The current number of AC1 subscribers seems to be uncertain, but the switching of the game’s billing from Microsoft to Turbine has cut the number of paying subscribers drastically.  As of March 2006, AC1 had reportedly fallen to between 10,000 and 15,000 subscribers, although that number is disputed and could be closer to 30,000 "

I would barely call AC1 a success, when it was released there was 3 MMO's to choose from.  People decided to play EQ and UO instead of AC1.  Then DAOC came out and destroyed AC1.

They wish they had a fluke

Something ironic.  When mythic (devs of DAOC) come out with WAR it will prolly crush LOTRO.  History repeating itself.


Barely calll AC1 a success??? By today standards yes, when WOW has millions, but judging by the standards in 1999 and 2000 the game was a  big success. As I've mentioned in other post there were only three games that people were talking about and that were EQ, UO and AC. AC1 had its two years, that were very good. EQ always had more ppl but AC was always there.

Yes DAOC crushed AC1 but DAOC came out in October 2001 so the numbers that you put up there are only proving that AC1 was a popular game :). Also the number of people playing MMORPGs now is at least 10 times more then it as back then, probably more.

That being said, Turbine haven't done nothing good since then.

  Moirae

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10/22/06 12:07:51 PM#7
You know, it's pretty idiotic to judge a game you haven't even taken part in yet just based on the company that made it. 

My website is closed temporarily. Hopefully it will only be a short delay.

  AzRaell33

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Joined: 9/04/05
Posts: 155

If it''s not broken don''t fix it.

10/23/06 12:56:41 AM#8

Originally posted by Moirae
You know, it's pretty idiotic to judge a game you haven't even taken part in yet just based on the company that made it. 

What’s idiotic about it?   To judge an upcoming product by the previous product a given company has produced in the past.  People do it all the time.  You ever bought something mostly because of the brand name on it?  Ever not bought something because of who made it?  Don’t lie and say you haven’t.  When people buy something that’s mostly what they look at WHO MADE IT. Why?  Because we know the kind of quality that given company produces. 

  Jackdog

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Posts: 5673

10/23/06 5:34:53 AM#9

/shrug

different development teams, different design plans. Just for the record I have never owned a Turbine game. I was busy with UO when AC1 released. DAoC and SWG/Eve beta testing when ACII came out and knew the group oriented DDO would not fit my play style. The DDO beta leaks and the weekend long open beta they had confirmed that. 

On the other hand all movies made by Universal ( insert movie studio of choice) are not blockbusters. Like I said in the other thread people will buy what they want to. If the game is good it will sell, if it sucks it won't. No one really cares about your opinions except you Az. All your posts will not stop a single copy from selling if the game turns out to be good. All the fanbois "this game will rock" posts will not sell a single copy if the game sucks. Most of us can make up our own minds. I would guess that most of us will decide after they have a open beta, drop the NDA so the beta testers can comment, or read a few more official reviews.

I would not speculate if it will be good or bad at this point, I will make up my mind after I beta it, or read some reviews on official sites I can trust. I surely will not buy if it gets lukewarm reviews or they have a open beta and I don't care for it. But right now I will give it the benefit of the doubt.  I certainly would not recommend anyone pre order it. For that matter I would never pre order any game that I had not betaed, or was 99.99 % sure I would like because someone I trusted had experienced it and recommended it.

I miss DAoC

  Moirae

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10/23/06 10:46:35 AM#10
Well said jack.

My website is closed temporarily. Hopefully it will only be a short delay.

  AzRaell33

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Joined: 9/04/05
Posts: 155

If it''s not broken don''t fix it.

10/23/06 7:10:54 PM#11

Originally posted by Jackdog

/shrug

different development teams, different design plans. Just for the record I have never owned a Turbine game. I was busy with UO when AC1 released. DAoC and SWG/Eve beta testing when ACII came out and knew the group oriented DDO would not fit my play style. The DDO beta leaks and the weekend long open beta they had confirmed that. 

On the other hand all movies made by Universal ( insert movie studio of choice) are not blockbusters. Like I said in the other thread people will buy what they want to. If the game is good it will sell, if it sucks it won't. No one really cares about your opinions except you Az. All your posts will not stop a single copy from selling if the game turns out to be good. All the fanbois "this game will rock" posts will not sell a single copy if the game sucks. Most of us can make up our own minds. I would guess that most of us will decide after they have a open beta, drop the NDA so the beta testers can comment, or read a few more official reviews.

I would not speculate if it will be good or bad at this point, I will make up my mind after I beta it, or read some reviews on official sites I can trust. I surely will not buy if it gets lukewarm reviews or they have a open beta and I don't care for it. But right now I will give it the benefit of the doubt.  I certainly would not recommend anyone pre order it. For that matter I would never pre order any game that I had not betaed, or was 99.99 % sure I would like because someone I trusted had experienced it and recommended it.


First off if you never owned a turdbine game you need to stfu because that’s what this thread is about. 

 

 

I can’t say I agree with you jack. Matter fact I would have to say you are dead wrong.  In an obviously ignorant sort of way   The game will sell regardless weather it good or bad because of the TITLE on it.  Yep that’s right jacko people that don’t know better will buy it simply because of the title.  Do I need to say that again so it sinks through to that brain of yours.  Don’t try and say it won’t because you will have proven yourself a liar again.  .

 

The title is the only thing that keeps DDO from being a TOTAL flop. In less than 6 months there will not be a DDO.  When word gets around population will drop to near nothing, turdbine will pull support to work on something else, and next thing you know they announce that DDO is no longer viable and they are shutting down the servers.   

 

Furthermore I don’t expect to be able to influence everyone not to buy this game.  But I will get a few people that didn’t know before to stop and think a bit before ordering a turdbine game.  

Another thing jacko if you intend to follow my every post and try to discredit them you can come on with it.  You have already proven yourself a liar once I bet you can do it again.    


 

  AzRaell33

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/04/05
Posts: 155

If it''s not broken don''t fix it.

10/23/06 7:14:41 PM#12

Originally posted by Moirae
Well said jack.

Some of the above was for you to. 
  Jackdog

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Posts: 5673

10/23/06 8:14:29 PM#13

Never owned a Porsche either, does not mean I can't have a opinion.

So what did Turbine do to piss you off so bad Az? Or is this just your form of entertaining yourself?

I miss DAoC

  Shazzel

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Posts: 473

10/24/06 4:48:00 AM#14
Turdbine sucks.. Dont let them rob us of LOTR the way they have with DnD. Nucking Foobs  
  Jackdog

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Posts: 5673

10/24/06 5:37:57 AM#15

Originally posted by Shazzel
Turdbine sucks.. Dont let them rob us of LOTR the way they have with DnD. Nucking Foobs  
your flaweless logic and eloquent debating style almost has me convinced

I miss DAoC

  Bissrok

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10/24/06 8:14:32 AM#16

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Shazzel
Turdbine sucks.. Dont let them rob us of LOTR the way they have with DnD. Nucking Foobs  
your flaweless logic and eloquent debating style almost has me convinced

It was the "Turdbine" that made me re-think my decision. Now I don't know what I'll play...
  Moirae

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Posts: 2467

10/24/06 3:55:04 PM#17
You can't judge a game just based on the company that made it. People do that to SOE too even though they don't really deserve the reputation. EQ and EQ2 are fantastic, even if they destroyed SWG.

Why not wait until you actually play it, or at least hear real reviews other than rumors, till you decide whether you're going to bash the game or not. To do anything else is foolish.

My website is closed temporarily. Hopefully it will only be a short delay.

  Jackdog

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10/24/06 4:40:30 PM#18


 Originally posted by Bissrok

 

It was the "Turdbine" that made me re-think my decision. Now I don't know what I'll play...


He has such a way with words doesn't he? I bet he is a English Lit teacher at Oxford in real life.

 


I miss DAoC

  AzRaell33

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If it''s not broken don''t fix it.

10/27/06 1:18:23 AM#19

Originally posted by Jackdog

Never owned a Porsche either, does not mean I can't have a opinion.

So what did Turbine do to piss you off so bad Az? Or is this just your form of entertaining yourself?


Yes I think everyone is entitled to have an opinion. 

 

You know I have never owned a Porsche either but you won’t see me on the Porsche forums expressing my opinion of those cars.  You know why?  Because I don’t know sh*t about them that’s why.  They look nice and I would like to have one but that’s a pretty useless opinion to someone who is reading through the forums because they are considering buying one.  You don’t know how they handle, what plugs work best, what customer support is like, how much trunk space they have.  Hell you don’t even know if they have a trunk. 

 

Stick to stuff you know something about


  Jackdog

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10/27/06 5:45:22 AM#20

Originally posted by AzRaell33
 

Yes I think everyone is entitled to have an opinion. 

 

You know I have never owned a Porsche either but you won’t see me on the Porsche forums expressing my opinion of those cars.  You know why?  Because I don’t know sh*t about them that’s why.  They look nice and I would like to have one but that’s a pretty useless opinion to someone who is reading through the forums because they are considering buying one.  You don’t know how they handle, what plugs work best, what customer support is like, how much trunk space they have.  Hell you don’t even know if they have a trunk. 

 

Stick to stuff you know something about



 

You contradict your self in that post you know.

Also I know as much about LoTRO as you do, maybe more. This is a LoTRO forum not a Turbine forum. Chill out dude, you take this stuff way too serious.

I miss DAoC

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