I remember watching a video of a promo of this game in 2005 and wondered what all the excitement was about! The game's main flaw is that the marketing element combined with demands of the game industry put too many nails in the coffin before a successful release could be realised. Given that 94% of games never see the light of day some credit is deserved for Dark And Light getting as far as it did purely on its hype. It appears no worse than Archlord but then again I have never played D&L (as I have Project Entropia (free roaming world) which is skills based  too - way too many class systems out there already!)

Enjoyed the review to the extent that I may have got suckered into trying the game out.  But after buying Archlord I have learnt that the fans previews/reviews are way more reliable than the mmorg.com staff.

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Originally posted by tepthtanis

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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

you have issues man. I did not say any of thoes things. Get the voices in your head checked.

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Okay, here we go...

1) You attacked my original statement and called me a moron because I said you were a fanboi...I wasn't rude, I didn't say anything mean and yet you called me a moron. You even said "we" hate you. Sorry buddy! I don't hate anyone!

2) I came back and made you bleed because of your pitiful lies...It's so obvious! I'm sure if we took a poll I would win hands down!

3) Here's somemore...I went back and read your review under DnL ratings. You said you haven't been a fanboi since before SOG. Then why after the release of DnL on June 5th did you say..."A great game! A step above the norm." (Actually you said "I great game". You can't even spell "A" right and you have the nerve to call me a moron!)... then you said..."not an easy game...very complex." The only two things that are complex about DnL are Logging in and getting a refund. Then you said the game has some issues but it was just released and they will be resolved. If you're not a fanboi then no one is...

4) Anyone can go on to DnL forums and read your posts. There is plenty of evidence there of your fanboi status.

5) You come on here and say that DnL is great now because of the dual threading in the latest patch so it runs peachy-keen on your computer. FYI. Not everyone has an "easy button" on their computer. In fact, your the only one. I suppose your computer corrects all the DnL bugs for you. I suppose it adds the promised content that is missing for you. I suppose it has it's own customer support that is 100% efficient.

6) Any game in the world would look good after the stuff that you've been smoking,popping or injecting. "Hey everyone! Let's have a rousing game of hopscotch!!!" 

7)So hey Blood, just drop it. I've had so much experience wtih lying idiots like you that everything you say is painted in red. If you really want to get nasty. E-mail me! I freely display it in my bio.

8) I've had enough of your whining and your bs. All this because I called you a fanboi. I got you dead to rights you sad, sad little boy. Don't go any further if you know what's good for you.

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I don't hate you Mrbloodworth. I never said I hate you. Like I said earlier, I don't hate anyone. I don't even think you read my posts, you just come on here and whine. I said, that you said it's" a great game" in your "rating" of the game. Anyone can go and look at it under "RATINGS"! You know, where you "RATE" the game!!!

You know what! Fine! You're like talking to my exwife. I say blue and she hears green. You win. All this bs because I called you a fanboi. So here it is! "I'm sorry I called you a fanboi."  There! All better right! Now we don't have to clutter up this thread anymore with our rantings...

You're still a moron too!

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Originally posted by Razorback

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Originally posted by tepthtanis
On a side note to everyone. I still haven't gotten rid of that DnL virus that was released during the summer by DnL. I still get ghosts of DnL on my comp. DnL folders popping up every now and then even though I've tried to erase every aspect of DnL from my computer. How do I get rid of it without having to rollback my system??? Anybody? 

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Have you tried using a good registry cleaner ?

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Originally posted by treysmooth
First I would run something such as spycatcher(good software and its free for the basic version) or Spyware doctor if you want to pay for some spyware software thats good.  Delete everything it finds as long as you know its not a file that is legit especially those connected to the startup.  Next download a program called ccleaner its free and is really impressive.  Run the top option and the second option and clear whatever it finds.  If you don't have experience removing stuff from the registry try spyware blaster but be careful its very aggressive but if Farland has hidden a file in the startup that is reassembling files on your machine it will find them.  Finally run somthing like AVG antivirus through your system and do a reboot so that changes can take affect from using the programs that clear what starts up.  Without looking at your system I would say this should do it but you never know beyond that you need some experience with manual registry editing.

Hope that helps

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Thanks Treysmooth! I will begin finding all these programs right away and follow your directions. It's going to take some time but I'll let you know what happens...

Thanks again!

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Originally posted by Lepidus

Dark & Light launched recently and now we have our review. It used to be the most hyped game on our list, but in late beta fell out of favor in grand scale. Find out what we thought of the game.

The game is relative hard, especially in the beginning. The first few levels you can only kill things of your own level. The problem is that level one mobs are mixed in with level five mobs that will kill you if you are not careful. Generally, mobs are placed in groups of up to 20 or more which makes solo hunting very difficult at first. Once you are past citizen level (10), a well-equipped character can kill creatures twice his level. The difficulty of the mobs themselves is very diverse as well. One level 10 mob might be easy to kill while another level 10 might be almost impossible to kill. This can be either good or bad, depending on how you look at it. On one hand, there is a sense of discovery. On the other hand, a hunting experience can be entirely unpredictable and have dire results. The naming of monsters themselves is dull. There are cows of destruction, of blunt, of death, etc. It seems that the dev team ran out of inspiration when naming them.

You can read our review here.

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It's a really good thing you guys took 7 months before you reviewed the game. Honestly, it was one of the most anticipated game out there and you just now got around to reviewing this POS..?

It's an all out score of 2.5 ..!   Given the fact that it's been out for 8 months and it is STILL in this condition. You missed the mark and i feel this Review isn't an honest one at all.

-Zvorak

I gave it a 1.6 and I thought I was being generous. But I look at mmorpg's rating with a little patience because they came in much later than I expected to give this review. They are capturing their rating in a moment in time where the rest of us had to experience the full blown dismal and jaded DnL experience. I agree that they were overly generous but they haven't seen what the experienced DnL refugees have been through.

Good point though Zvorak!

You gotta love the fact that these jokers are still making money while the honest abe devs over at Runstone are cleaning out thier desks right now.

Life is not fair FTW

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Originally posted by Naar

Life is not fair FTW

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Originally posted by Naar
You gotta love the fact that these jokers are still making money while the honest abe devs over at Runstone are cleaning out thier desks right now.
Life is not fair FTW

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But, because Runestone had the balls to admit they fumbled from the beginning and were honest and communicative with their customers, when they come back to try again, they will not be laughed off the stage, so to speak

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Originally posted by Corpoces
I think most of these compenies that release these games too quickly or incomplete have no plans for the game to to be big. These companies are full of people who are breaking into the buisness and just want something on their resume so they can get a job with an arlready established big company or a project with a big budget. But promising big things bring a large following and a large following looks good on the resume. Those are my thoughts on the matter

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In any case, I suggest steering clear of any games involving Alchemic Dream. It seems they have a jinx about them...lets review their mots recent 4 games-

RF Online- lawl, damn near dead as DnL last I checked.

Archlord- again, damn near as bad as DnL with the same bugs since the beginning of beta

Seed- Cancelled, nuff said

DnL- Biggest piece of shit to grace the MMO scene in a long while

SWG- They weren't part of it but I bet one of them had an SWG acct they played on...

Could just be coincidence that they decide to get a contract with bad developers, but I can't help but feel they've somehow infected these games with their poison and killed them.

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Originally posted by n00bit

In any case, I suggest steering clear of any games involving Alchemic Dream. It seems they have a jinx about them...lets review their mots recent 4 games-

RF Online- lawl, damn near dead as DnL last I checked.

Archlord- again, damn near as bad as DnL with the same bugs since the beginning of beta

Seed- Cancelled, nuff said

DnL- Biggest piece of shit to grace the MMO scene in a long while

SWG- They weren't part of it but I bet one of them had an SWG acct they played on...

Could just be coincidence that they decide to get a contract with bad developers, but I can't help but feel they've somehow infected these games with their poison and killed them.

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Anyone wanna buy a lifetime free acount