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  indiramourn

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MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/24/06 1:55:26 AM#1

This link from the official forums sums it up nicely:

http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69012

  tepthtanis

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The key word in any game is "Fun!"

9/24/06 8:03:40 AM#2
Could you give me some more info Indira? I've been perma banned.

Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  majoch

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9/24/06 9:15:23 AM#3

Ugh, must be the top notch communication between the dev team and the select few elite patch testers which continues to make this work so well.

  qotsa

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Posts: 830

9/24/06 1:02:18 PM#4

Originally posted by tepthtanis
Could you give me some more info Indira? I've been perma banned.
The thread there:

Not sure what this patch was supposed to do as the dev notes and actual play are inversely proportional.... A couple of MAJOR issues listed below..

The only positive change I've been able to see has been the XP window is now readable (/showwinxp)

This was to have cleared Lag.... have more lag now than before patch .. this includes damage during fights as well as registering of overall xp gained After battle( 8 to 10 second delay).

As a level 57 Ranger ALL damage to mobs is in the chit can!
Example -
Level 57 Ranger vrs. Level 50 Mob(Satyr)

Missle attacks
Before patch using Sniper shot - Steady 150 Damage
After Patch - 20-30-68-80 damage a real el'Duh here. Roll of the dice should not determine damage!

The Area attack "frenzy Arrow" with it's trashed timer and now crippled damage is totally worthless at this point...

Melee attacks

Weapons now do 50 to 80 percent less damage
Using Missile weapons actually wears out Melee weapons to the point of
One Kill requires 2500+ goth to repair melee weapon.

Totally disgusted with combat changes....

As for the new crafting recipes.... Lets all point the middle finger at the fool who forgot to provide sellers of components in proximatety of the recipe sellers. It seems we've all been turned into traveling crafting whores ...

In conclusion, and as a word to the wise at DnL....
THIS PATCH REQUIRES A ROLLBACK....

INSTEAD OF THE EYE-CANDY OF A NEW LOGIN SKIN ---- CONCENTRATE ON THE ISSUES CRIPPLING PLAY..
ISSUES LIKE -
CONSTANT CRASHES DURING SIEGES
ARBITRARY LOCKING UP OF YOUR SYSTEM WHILE PLAYING
DISAPPEARING WALLS AND TOWERS
GHOSTS(KILLED CREATURES GOING UNDERGROUND)
LAG
65 PERCENT REJECTION RATE FOR TAMING CREATURES 50 LEVELS BELOW YOU
WEIGHT GAIN DUE TO CRAFTING .. EACH TIME I CRAFT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME, I GAIN APPROXIAMATELY 20 POINTS OF BURDEN AFTER I DUMP ALL ITEMS .. I.E. WITH EMPTY BACKPACKS HAVE 67 PERCENT BURDEN SHOULD ACTUALLY BE 27.6
KEEPING KILLED SIEGE PLAYERS AT LEAST 100 METERS FROM SIEGE WHILE BATTLE IS STILL RAGING. PRESENTLY ATTACKERS BIND AT SIEGE AREA AND CAUSE DISTRACTIONS DURING BATTLE. THIS IS ESPECIALLY BAD AS THE ATTACKING FORCE IS IN THE HABIT OF BRINGING 8 TO 12 PLAYERS TO ATTACK, AND AS WE KILL THEM THEY COME BACK TO DISTRACT. ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL WHO IS STILL IN SIEGE WITH THE MULTIPLE "RED PETS" AND RETURNING "DEAD PLAYERS".

I'll not get into the Lights with their GM weapons still..

So
No more sieging
No more Combat
Very little crafting
I've tried to keep this short and only provided a few of the combat issues.
I wonder if the chinese market will actually sustain this substandard game.

Hmm, what does that leave? Ahh yes ..
Cancelling the Click and buy subscription account .. *sigh
We had real faith the 40 additional programs could fix at least some of the in-game issues .. BAH!!!!

1 Disgusted Player
Naufragium
  indiramourn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/24/06 3:24:31 PM#5
Thanks, qotsa.  Saved me the effort.
  tepthtanis

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Joined: 8/25/06
Posts: 574

The key word in any game is "Fun!"

9/24/06 6:55:27 PM#6
Thanks qotsa!  About what I expected...

Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  indiramourn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/24/06 9:28:03 PM#7

And this post by a customer who is very pissed (they typed all in caps):

SO GLAD YOU IDIOTS DID SUCH A QUALITY JOB TESTING THIS PATCH FOR OVER A MONTH. LETS SEE WHAT SLIPPED BY YOU..............ARMOR IS BUGGED ( FOR EXAMPLE i CAN NOT EQUIP NOR UNEQUIP MY MASTER CHEST, AND UPON LOGGING OUT / IN BOTH MY ORIGINAL PIECE AND THE NEW PIECE DISAPPEAR. SO I TRY TO PUT A NEW PIECE ON AND THEN IT WORKS. ). WEAPONS AND ARMOR BREAK AFTER 1 FIGHT, WHICH IS GREAT SINCE I CAN MAKE 200 GOTH FROM KILLING A MOB, BUT IT'S LAST DYING ACT OF REVENGE IS TO COST ME 7K IN REPAIRS. LETS SEE, OPPS, WE DIDN'T REALLY FIX THE SEIGE CRASHES, BUT WE GAVE YOU A PRETTY NEW FXP / SXP / CXP BAR. NOW THAT WE ARE DOING CRAP DAMAGE, SEIGES ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. SEIGE WEAPONS SAY THEY HAVE A RANGE OF 80M, YET YOU HAVE TO GET AROUND 55M BEFORE THEY ATTACK. NOT TO MENTION THEY HIT FOR CRAP DAMAGE, WHILE TOWERS DO QUICK INSANE DAMAGE, OH AND BREAK YOU WEPS AND ARMOR. PETS ARE STILL BUGGED ON LOGIN. YOU CAN STILL NOT READ THE WHOLE TIMER ON FORT INFO....EXAMPLE IT WILL SAY 20HR 0..... HOW DAMMN HARD IS IT TO FIX THAT ! SAME ISSUE WITH HOLDINGS. TOWERS CAN HIT YOU FOR UP TO 120M AWAY NOW. CANT LEAVE SEIGES EASILY. WHAT A JOKE OF A "GAME" ( AND I DO USE THE TERM VERY LOOSELY). STILL CAN NOT BUY / SELL ITEMS IN BULK ( AGAIN SOMETHING MMO'S FROM 6 YRS AGO HAD ). AND NOW THIS GAME IS CAUSING MY NETWORK TO RESET......HOW FREAKING NICE IS THAT. ITEMS DISAPPEARING IN BAGS. AND SPEAKING OF BAGS..........HOW GOD DAMN HARD IS IT TO CHANGE THE CODE SO THAT MY BAGS DO NOT RE-ORDER THEMSELEVES.


THEN YOU FUCKING RELEASE A PATCH ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON YOUR WAY OUT THE DAMN DOOR, AND OFFER NO SUPPORT FOR THE WEEKEND. PEOPLE CAN NOT EVEN LOGIN, HOLDINGS ARE BUGGED AND UNUSUABLE, TOONS ARE BUGGED SO THEY CAN NOT EQUIP ARMOR.

I KNOW YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE FEW OF US THAT ARE LEFT, BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU WILL BE OUT OF WORK WHEN THE FREE PERIOD IS UP. SINCE I WILL GET BANNED FROM THE FORUMS, AND WITH ANY LUCK FROM THE TRAINWRECK OF A GAME, LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH A CLOSING THOUGHT................................YOUR GAME IS A POS, YOUR PROGRAMMING SKILL ( FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD ) IS NOT EVEN ON PAR WITH A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, AND BY THE WAY............KISS MY < FILL IN THE BLANK >

OH AND WE JUST CRASHED FOR THE 5TH TIME DURING A SEIGE, ONCE 1 CRASHES THE REST OF US FOLLOW ( GREAT TEAMWORK ). SO LET ME REITTERATE....................YOUR GAME IS A GIANT STEAMING PILE OF CRAP.
  tepthtanis

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Joined: 8/25/06
Posts: 574

The key word in any game is "Fun!"

9/24/06 10:46:40 PM#8

Originally posted by indiramourn

And this post by a customer who is very pissed (they typed all in caps):

SO GLAD YOU IDIOTS DID SUCH A QUALITY JOB TESTING THIS PATCH FOR OVER A MONTH. LETS SEE WHAT SLIPPED BY YOU..............ARMOR IS BUGGED ( FOR EXAMPLE i CAN NOT EQUIP NOR UNEQUIP MY MASTER CHEST, AND UPON LOGGING OUT / IN BOTH MY ORIGINAL PIECE AND THE NEW PIECE DISAPPEAR. SO I TRY TO PUT A NEW PIECE ON AND THEN IT WORKS. ). WEAPONS AND ARMOR BREAK AFTER 1 FIGHT, WHICH IS GREAT SINCE I CAN MAKE 200 GOTH FROM KILLING A MOB, BUT IT'S LAST DYING ACT OF REVENGE IS TO COST ME 7K IN REPAIRS. LETS SEE, OPPS, WE DIDN'T REALLY FIX THE SEIGE CRASHES, BUT WE GAVE YOU A PRETTY NEW FXP / SXP / CXP BAR. NOW THAT WE ARE DOING CRAP DAMAGE, SEIGES ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. SEIGE WEAPONS SAY THEY HAVE A RANGE OF 80M, YET YOU HAVE TO GET AROUND 55M BEFORE THEY ATTACK. NOT TO MENTION THEY HIT FOR CRAP DAMAGE, WHILE TOWERS DO QUICK INSANE DAMAGE, OH AND BREAK YOU WEPS AND ARMOR. PETS ARE STILL BUGGED ON LOGIN. YOU CAN STILL NOT READ THE WHOLE TIMER ON FORT INFO....EXAMPLE IT WILL SAY 20HR 0..... HOW DAMMN HARD IS IT TO FIX THAT ! SAME ISSUE WITH HOLDINGS. TOWERS CAN HIT YOU FOR UP TO 120M AWAY NOW. CANT LEAVE SEIGES EASILY. WHAT A JOKE OF A "GAME" ( AND I DO USE THE TERM VERY LOOSELY). STILL CAN NOT BUY / SELL ITEMS IN BULK ( AGAIN SOMETHING MMO'S FROM 6 YRS AGO HAD ). AND NOW THIS GAME IS CAUSING MY NETWORK TO RESET......HOW FREAKING NICE IS THAT. ITEMS DISAPPEARING IN BAGS. AND SPEAKING OF BAGS..........HOW GOD DAMN HARD IS IT TO CHANGE THE CODE SO THAT MY BAGS DO NOT RE-ORDER THEMSELEVES.


THEN YOU FUCKING RELEASE A PATCH ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON YOUR WAY OUT THE DAMN DOOR, AND OFFER NO SUPPORT FOR THE WEEKEND. PEOPLE CAN NOT EVEN LOGIN, HOLDINGS ARE BUGGED AND UNUSUABLE, TOONS ARE BUGGED SO THEY CAN NOT EQUIP ARMOR.

I KNOW YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE FEW OF US THAT ARE LEFT, BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU WILL BE OUT OF WORK WHEN THE FREE PERIOD IS UP. SINCE I WILL GET BANNED FROM THE FORUMS, AND WITH ANY LUCK FROM THE TRAINWRECK OF A GAME, LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH A CLOSING THOUGHT................................YOUR GAME IS A POS, YOUR PROGRAMMING SKILL ( FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD ) IS NOT EVEN ON PAR WITH A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, AND BY THE WAY............KISS MY < FILL IN THE BLANK >

OH AND WE JUST CRASHED FOR THE 5TH TIME DURING A SEIGE, ONCE 1 CRASHES THE REST OF US FOLLOW ( GREAT TEAMWORK ). SO LET ME REITTERATE....................YOUR GAME IS A GIANT STEAMING PILE OF CRAP.

Hahaha! I'd laugh louder if it wasn't so sad! Thanks Indira! You just made my evening!

Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  jandrsn

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Joined: 5/29/06
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9/25/06 5:31:15 AM#9

Goody!  I thought this train wreck was over, but it keeps on giving! 

And they've answered the age old riddle of how many chinese programmers it takes to fix a crappy game.  Apperantly more than 40. 

If only you bastards hadn't applied double pressure...

  indiramourn

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Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/25/06 12:53:37 PM#10

And now this post by AD staff:

Greetings,

The first post is right; we GMs are not able to log in game since a bit more than 24h. We didn't announce it and I can personally apologize about it, I see it sure was a mistake.

However, please be ensured that we have informed the devs about the ongoing problems after the patch, and we have urged them to be given any news they might get about it in order to announce them.

We will provide you with an update of the situation as soon as we get one.

Thanks
__________________
Eisenherz
  
It just gets better and better. 
  indiramourn

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Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/25/06 1:16:39 PM#11

And another nice post by one of the last few players:

1. Constant crashes during seiges / defenses.
2. Armor just disappearing after trades or trying to equip new Master Armor
3. Pets still bugged (unable to manage pets), have to relog a few times to clear.
4. Unable to buy anything other then Weak Towers ( tried with diff accts / toons )
5. Weapons / Armor breaking after 1 or 2 fights
6. Unable to equip any armor at all
7. Towers still attacking / hitting you with no LOS and at over 100m range
8. Seige weps listed at 80m range when in reality won't attack until you are w/in 55m of the target
9. Holdings now bugged ( some items are listed at -1 )
10. AF makes no difference in damage from towers. Towers hit me for 168 regardless of whether I have 57.3 or 72.0 AC
11. Crashes when opening a vendor for the first time ( not first time ever, just first time in that session)
12. LOGIN ISSUES AGAIN FOR ALOT OF FOLKS
13. No GM support for the weekend
14. No Dev support EVER
15. Weapon Damage calcs seem off to put it mildy
16. Mounts disappearing randomly, including during flight
17. Fort walls / defenses just disappearing or going invis

There are countless more bugs, but those are the ones that I can think of this morning.

I rate this patch, really can't even call it a patch, at -10 ( for WHAT A POS patch this was)

You tested the patch my ass. Some of these are basic gameplay bugs that should have been seen right away. Perhaps you should stop using GM accounts and let players test this nonsense, since WE ARE BETA / ALPHA TESTING this dog of a "game" anyway.

When the free period is up, do you really think anyone will be around to play ?
The Asian release will not go smoothly, do you really think they will tolerate this POS as much as we have ?

And once again, I login to check the forums for news about fixing the patch, and nothing but crickets from the Devs. GOOD JOB AS USUAL.
  
  Vyce

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9/25/06 1:32:01 PM#12
DnL is pure crap. This latest patch has sent most of the 50 or so of us that were playing running. Over the past month I have only seen the same 10 or so people in-game, it is the largest MMORPG without any players.  Events were lucky to attract 8 players.  Now this latest patch of destruction,  and even the mods can't log on.  Give it up DnL - you were dead a long time ago.
  tepthtanis

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The key word in any game is "Fun!"

9/25/06 1:41:26 PM#13

I agree, the game was dead a long time ago. If this patch doesn't kill it then nothing will. They should've hung it up before they began and not pissed so many people off...

Thanks again for the awsome postings Indira!!! Much appriciated!

Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  indiramourn

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Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/25/06 10:12:09 PM#14

And another player post for your enjoyment:

Prior to the patch my Ranger had a 65% rejection rate when attempting to tame creatures ... I reported the same

After patch ... *sigh ... get this message
"You don't be able to charm this mob" ...
1st - we are talking about the Ranger TAME spell and yes the charm spell gives same error message...

Game play and Economy has gone to hell in a hand basket .. see below

Setup - God faction +30,000
All armor and weapons repaired.. gated to twin lakes - killed 10 satyrs level 50 and 10 skeletons level 45 battle time about 30 minutes

Result -
Goth received 178, 42, 143, 159
Total loot = 522 Goth

Repair cost -
Weapon used Club = 2,755 Goth
Belt = 4,412 Goth
Breast Plate = 1,155 Goth
Spaulders = 950 Goth
Helmet = 744 Goth
Epaule = 462 Goth
Total cost = 10,478 Goth

So lets summarize
10 Satyr level 50 = 820 fxp
10 Skeletons lvl 45 = 380 fxp
Total = 1200 fxp

No matter how you look at it .. thats a shitty ROI. Combat in this game has negative return on investment to the point of breaking the bank .. *pffft ...

Weapon and breastplate repair requirement is beyond stupid" now .. Play 20 to 30 minutes maybe .. then run and get club repaired .. wtf ? With most of the towns inoperable, again we spend all our time runing around instead of playing.

Master Weapon - powder used in construction for durability.. (yea right !! Durable *pfft)

Nauf
 
  indiramourn

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MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/26/06 1:27:14 AM#15

And here is another articulate post by a player named Valharan:

Well I downloaded DnL just for a laugh factor and reinstalled it.... ALI(I havnt played in a LOOOONG time) Seriously you were testing this patch for 2 months supposedly what did you test? Honest answers here, my guess would be nothing. NP3/Farlan you should all be ashamed of yourselfs, it would be one thing if you told us flat out that your community college courses didn't cover coding and development but to claim to be game developers and put out the most shoddy product and the worst patching I have ever witnessed is a disgrace.


You lack talent of any sort. You have lied, cheated and stolen from not only this community but every other MMO community as well. You have seriously injured the entire genre and for that may your souls be damned. I really hope gaming companys use you as a benchmark for failure because thats what I consider everyone involved with this project. The only exceptions are AD(you guys should pull out) and _Pix_'s team. Everyone else is garbage through and through.

I'm not being mean spirited here I'm only mirroring popular opinion on this one. Try to find more than a handfull of delusional people who think this waste of bandwidth is even mediocre and I will retract my statements. But I doubt you can because if you look at this honestly here is what you get.

A. You took one of the largest fan groups of any game out there with the exception of WoW and in less than 3 months from release reduced them to at most a couple hundred, that takes such an alarming lack of ethics and skill to accomplish it is mind boggling. You had 700K+ registered forum users anticipating your product and now have less than .03% left, astounding.

B. You fabricated details and features trying to hoodwink the gaming community into thinking this stinking pile of vomit was anything other than what it was, and to what purpose? Honesty right from the start would have bought you more time. Lies however only bought you the scorn and revile from the gaming world that you so richly deserve.

C. Since releasing this game with the claims that it was our fault due to pressure from the community or financial woes that were the root cause of your failure you have done nothing and in most cases less than nothing to fix the aborted abomination you whelpped upon us. Your patching has been shameful and you take more and more time putting out the same shoddy, untested and useless code. Why is that? Do you have so little respect for you last few faithful fans that you would insult thier intelligence by releasing yet another patch that breaks more than it ever fixed?

In summation, quit, give up, throw in the towel. Do us and the rest of the genre a favor and admit your incompetence, appologize and quietly fade away.

  indiramourn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/26/06 1:29:45 AM#16

Oh, and this amusing post from a thread about the maps which the pioneer accounts were promised but never received:

Hey guys cool down. The developer team are sewing the maps. They bought a new singer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:...achine_goto.jpg.
Maps will be delivered as soon as they work out how the machine works.
They have hired also new coder to the team http://www.tjbailey.com/wampus/coder.jpg

 
  indiramourn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 872

MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities.

 
9/26/06 1:32:33 AM#17

This post is from someone trying to help another player who is having problems downloading the patch:

You can try doing the file integrity check. If that doesnt work you will have to reinstall. Then download lash launch. Use lash launch to download all the patches then run patchit.exe from within the dnl directory, but instead of clicking finish at the end, bring up the task manager and end the patchit.exe.

It worked for me on my old computer every time this way. But on my new computer I am ali'ed and shit out of luck to play the game. I guess you might consider it good luck to not be able to play this pile of excrement.
 
  thePREdiger

Novice Member

Joined: 5/23/03
Posts: 151

9/26/06 12:29:57 PM#18

Originally posted by indiramourn

Oh, and this amusing post from a thread about the maps which the pioneer accounts were promised but never received:

Hey guys cool down. The developer team are sewing the maps. They bought a new singer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:...achine_goto.jpg.
Maps will be delivered as soon as they work out how the machine works.
They have hired also new coder to the team http://www.tjbailey.com/wampus/coder.jpg

 

haha - omg - that made my day
  tepthtanis

Novice Member

Joined: 8/25/06
Posts: 574

The key word in any game is "Fun!"

9/26/06 3:24:04 PM#19

HEhehe! They brought the "ALI" bug back as an encore I see. Or is it just an isolated incident Indira? All these posts are wearing out my laugh box. The people left playing that game must not have an ounce of self respect left if they ever had any.

 IndirrAHH! IndirAHH! IndirAHH!

Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  Maldach

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/05
Posts: 387

9/26/06 8:59:33 PM#20
What in the world possesses these people to continue paying money to play this game? I'm completely at a loss to figure it out.
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