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Originally posted by dragonace
Were you trying to get your post count up for some reason Psycked?   Gotta admit you are good at replying - now if we could just get you to work on the reading part.  

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Originally posted by jonaku

BTW, isn't Aradune's post a violation of the MMORPG.com Rules of Conduct since it essentially constitutes an advertisment? His post is a de facto marketing campaign... messaging for commercial purposes on behalf of a product in which he has a fiduciary interest.

I quote:

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Next we'll have the presidents of all the MMOs regularly posting marketing messages into their respective forums on MMORPG.com. That won't be helpful....

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This guy provided valuable links and info about the game.  I have never heard of the game and his info helped me learn about it.  Find some something better to do. punk

Edit.. Didnt realize that this topic was to page 21... im sure everything has been well discussed by now and my reply is pointless…

Well I guess this will be one the last times a CEO of an MMO post something on MMORPG.

One thing is to have an opnion another is to just plain  insult someone.

It is so sad that instead of this being a roundtable discussion with some one who directly affects a game in progress. All they get is whining and insults thrown at them. Granted a few of you showed some common sense.

But a good of you are just plain and simply given the MMO community a bad rap.

All i see in this forum was a good chance of asking some hard hitting questions shot down the drain by the few who couldnt curb their urges to attack someone who obviously is more important then themselves.

I write this even though it will fall on deaf ears as those who like to persecute never want to be told their wrong. i hope those who have take this oppurtunity to make this forum a medium for adult discussion do not give up hope.

No INSTANCES! ?

Well problems I foresee with no instancing are the return of servers ran by 1-2 guilds?

Need a refresher on what thats like? see the Everquest classic servers currently ran and owned by two guilds. This type of gameplay tends to "shed" all the other players around them so that a few years later you left with a ghost-town server. That "uber" guild looks around, see's no one else is playing and they leave too.

Oddly this is the same thing that happens in FFA PvP servers with high/moderate death penatly's and looting.

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Originally posted by Shazzel

No INSTANCES! ?

Well problems I foresee with no instancing are the return of servers ran by 1-2 guilds?

Need a refresher on what thats like? see the Everquest classic servers currently ran and owned by two guilds. This type of gameplay tends to "shed" all the other players around them so that a few years later you left with a ghost-town server. That "uber" guild looks around, see's no one else is playing and they leave too.

Oddly this is the same thing that happens in FFA PvP servers with high/moderate death penatly's and looting.

 

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That is exactly what VG is going to be like, I'm glad someone else remembers the result if "The Vision" at work...

If you are in a guild with a GM as its founding member or inner council, you get all the perks, customer support, boss mobs and phat lewtz...

If not, not.

Welcome to EQ3

IT LOOKS LIKE EQ 2.

The game play isnt the same, but it looks like it - Anway its so redicoules close its OMGZ.

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Originally posted by Sturmrabe

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Originally posted by Shazzel

No INSTANCES! ?

Well problems I foresee with no instancing are the return of servers ran by 1-2 guilds?

Need a refresher on what thats like? see the Everquest classic servers currently ran and owned by two guilds. This type of gameplay tends to "shed" all the other players around them so that a few years later you left with a ghost-town server. That "uber" guild looks around, see's no one else is playing and they leave too.

Oddly this is the same thing that happens in FFA PvP servers with high/moderate death penatly's and looting.

 

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That is exactly what VG is going to be like, I'm glad someone else remembers the result if "The Vision" at work...

If you are in a guild with a GM as its founding member or inner council, you get all the perks, customer support, boss mobs and phat lewtz...

 

If not, not.

 

Welcome to EQ3

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Both of your opinions are absolutely stupid. But yes, go try the EQ classic servers. I have, have you? No one owns anything, it is all there for the taking. If for some reason you should be unemployed enough to catch up to one of the major guilds, which is the only way they will have any impact on you at all, you will not be blocked out of anything. It is just like on any other server, communication is key. Simply communicate with other guild leaders and you will get your raid to happen. It's not like they will tell you to go away. It is the same on any server, everyone gets their turn.

I swear, do  you guys even think before you post? I would not enjoy my brain if I were you. Let some light in there.

Two words, SMOKE SCREEN.

Am I new here? Yep...

Am I a fanboi? Nope...

I've played a LOT of games and beta'd quite a few. and when I say played, I mean years invested in many in my sig.

I cursed SOE when they dumped their SWG for Idiots revamp, and cancelled my second jedi Account (unlocked 2 jedi, one the old way by mastering all 32 profs, and did the whole village thing for second unlock). I swore I'd never play an SOE game again.

I signed up for Vanguard Beta almost 2 years ago. I finally get the invite to beta, and I've got to say that I have a great deal of high hopes for this game. I personally LIKE the Diplomacy aspect. It's not just a card game. You can GREATLY increase your faction through Diplomacy, not to mention the ability to get into areas or dungeons through negotiation rather than fightinh your way through. I also happened to enjoy the lore revealed by the Diplomacy quests, which I felt increased the immersive aspects of Vanguard.

Is it perfect? Heck no! But it's vastly better at beta 4 stage than MANY games I've played at release, and I strongly feel that by release it has the potential to be amazing.

I've completely stopped playing WoW and have been playing Vanguard for the last week because I've been ENJOYING IT A LOT, and I'm not a casual gamer (60 Feral Druid, 60 Combat Rogue, 48 Hunter, 35 Lock on just ONE of the WoW servers I play on...)

I think the problem with a lot of the naysayers has to do with the fact that they don't know a placeholder from the real deal. It's definitely still very much beta, but is nevertheless living up to its potential. I'll try and regularly update here.

Peace!

(Feel free to fire off questions.. I'll try and answer as I've read that the NDA has been lifted)

[quote=babblin]feel free to fire off questions.. i'll try and answer as i've read that the NDA  has been lifted[/quote]

sorry to pull you up on that, but you might want to re-check that.

its not lifted till open beta mk5 and that is only at Brads sayso (which might change)

When this game sells out like EQ did expect a mass exodus.

Okay. I havent looked at each post or gone through this thread with a fine-toothed comb or anything... But this is my opinion:

1)Brad McQuaid actually took the time to promote his game on a 3rd party site that chooses what they promote and what they dont. Seems like he ACTUALLY cares about the game. He's put alot of time and is hoping for a return for his hard work.
2)Yes, it is pretty. Yes, it is fantasy driven. No, it doesnt look like EQ2. I played EQ2 and Vanguard is much better looking than it ever wanted to be.
3)The member that lives near Sigil... He/She might just be new. Give people a chance. Its honestly not all that impossible that someone lives near a company, heard bout a game, and said "I like it." Thats like saying "Anyone in California can NOT have opinions about games!"
4)If my investigations prove right, the reasons for Sigil not wanting MS support is as follows
            A)MS wanted the game to release as Vista Exclusive on PC to get people to buy Vista.
            B)MS, after Sigil's refusal to go Vista Only, decided that they would focus more on the 360
            C)MS was beginning to attempt to place Vanguard on the Xbox 360 and Brad wanted it to be a PC title.

Sure, SOE has screwed things up in the past, but they're not at the helm in this title. They're just going to be providing the hosting. They have no control over content. Sigil is the only company with the rights to produce any sort of content updates to the game.

Come on people. Its something different than Raid Of Warcraft... If it has ANY solo content, we'll be lucky. The area is seamless and huge, you can see for like...7 miles or something. Flying mounts and future mounted combat people! The only game that I know of that offered Mounted Combat is ArchLord and the developers just dropped that game post-launch.

Give it a chance, quit whining. FilePlanet members get first access to the beta this month anyway. Not like yall will be losing money or anything. After all, its beta. If you want something different, tell the developer. Thats the whole idea of beta... Find bugs, give suggestions, get the game you think would be best. If the suggestion wouldnt hurt the game, theres a chance it'll get put on a list of future content.