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Originally posted by Gonodil

Originally posted by Heru-Ur3005
Honestly cant help but think you guys posting here are overeacting a bit. I am normaly as skeptical as anyone but this is a company founded specificly to make the SG MMO. Not to mention they do have a very skilled team of devs working on it. Ya know you guys may be right though, maybe it'd be better as an FPS. But damn people, let em put the product out before you tear em a new one, cause if it blows i'll be right there along side ya. All i'm saying is you cant please everyone, and until i see/hear something seriously horriable, then i'm going to give the devs the benifit of the doubt.

It's called feedback.
In the unlikely event the devs actualy listen to what customers want, the game might actualy be changed for the better.

But i dont see the logic in the "Let em finish making crap before you call it crap" argument. If it's looking like crap, people should say so. Maybe that way some changes will be made before it's too late.

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I mean seriously people, they say 1 little thing and people frenzy on it, saying its gonna suck. Lets think about this situation for a second, they say "Its not going to be an FPS" "its going to be a game not a world" and folks are on it like white on rice spouting crap, when in reality they have little but to vague statements to base it off of. Those 2 statements in particular leave a LOT of options open as to what it might be and how it may play.

What i want people to take away from this post is that skeptcism is healthy, but should also be kept in check. Its really easy to say something is going to suck when you know very little, same as its easy to be overly optimistic. Gonodil this isnt directed specificly at you either but to anyone that bashs on a game BEFORE they know whats up. And thats very obviously the stage we are all at right now.

I think Im kind of on my own here.... but thats nothing new.

Personally I found the SG TV show to be a monumental yawn at best and a very poor comedy at worst.

As for a game based on it.... *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

Ooopps nodded off there for a sec...

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Originally posted by jdong

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Originally posted by Maim

Ok only thing that worries me on this is...NO FPS NOOOOOOOOO!

This should be a a fpsrpg. In other words you aim but your skills when you hit determine dmg.....

Just completely lost me on this spamming specials and watching your toon fire away just isnt immersive to me.

But thats just my two cents.

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Hey it's the first image you don't know if it's going to be a FPS or not, thats really bad judgement or your part...
i mean i guess thats why everyone plays wow.

If you read the article like me youd have read this.

However, they must keep in mind two major things. First, the game is not an FPS. They’re not yet sure exactly how they’ll set up the combat interface, but don’t expect to be aiming and shooting. It also must not be too confusing. From a UI perspective, it is likely that the experience will be more in line with traditional MMOs.

The guy said combat will be like "TV combat" doing "crazy things" instead of a "modern combat simulation."  That could mean ANYTHING.  It sounds to me like they're talking in circles at this point to leave the door completely open.  The only thing he's locked himself down to so far is that Stargate's combat system will be similar to other MMO's, but it will have "better" A.I.  (Knock me over with a feather; I've never heard that claim before.)

But that's all fine; the combat details will take a long time to work out and there won't be any way to tell whether it's "good" or not until we at least start seeing gameplay footage anyway, no matter what kind of basic type of system they use.  The "feel" of the Stargate TV show doesn't depend on whether you're looking down the barrel of a rifle or not; it's based on going to new worlds and exploring and solving problems.  Nine out of ten encounters were resolved without firing weapons at all. 

What I want to know at this stage is what is the fundamental setup of the game.  Will it be exploration based?  (Where the toughest part of the job is figuring out what you are supposed to do on each new world.)  Or will it be repeatable static encounter based?  ("Go to PCX34 and kill 12 Gao'uld and I'll give you an upgraded zat gun")  Are the designers willing to commit to a gameplay style that guildies and cheat-site-addicts will blow through in 10 seconds flat?  Or will they cave to the pressure and build yet another MMORPG around people who have been conditioned to treat a "role-playing game" like a million-player-sized team scavenger hunt?

Earlier reports said there was going to be some kind of eternal "war" going on in the Stargate MMORPG.  Sounds to me like the player will be going places where MOBs are standing around waiting to be killed by PC's -- again.  If they throw in a few obelisks waiting to be deciphered along the way, I don't really see any difference between this and every other MMORPG already on the market.

How did Star Wars Galaxies capture the feel of the Movies?  Once you got past the whole "Hey, look, I'm a Wookie(TM)!" thing, it didn't.

Someone once described the difference between First Person Shooters and MMORPG's as follows:  "In the first kind of game, your activities consist of kill; kill; kill; kill....  In the second kind of game, your activities consist of kill; kill; bake bread; kill..." 

Substitute: "build lightsaber," for "bake bread" and you've got SW:G.  I'm thinking with SG:W, you might substitute "decypher glyph," and you've got the same game we've seen dozens of times now.  Oh, hey, but this time there will be Goa'uld.

I am relieved to hear that it is not going to be a FPS game.  I dig the Battlefield and Quake games but I would not pay a monthly fee to play those  games  like I have/do for Everquest, WoW, DaoC,  CoH and WoW.

 If they made this game in the FPS genre it would lose a huge amount of roleplay feel and just become another shooter in my opinion. I would still give it a try but I really could not see myself staying with it for very long.

Uh... Stargate Worlds needs FPS stuff. Thats all was saying in the first place. :-(

I'm glad it's and MMO and not an FPS. I'm glad Zeb is in charge. With him involved it will be a solid game. I'm really looking forward to playing it in 4 or 5 years.

Kewl this could be a fun game  ill be following it for a long time im gonna suppose

Glad to see they're progressing, but I don't have warm and fuzzies over it yet.. btw, huge SG fan here, I mean, I buy the dvd's and everything..

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Originally posted by apocalance

Glad to see they're progressing, but I don't have warm and fuzzies over it yet.. btw, huge SG fan here, I mean, I buy the dvd's and everything..

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Originally posted by Wardrop
Not a fps... then its not Stargate. No matter how you try to spin it. Its not Stargate. It may look like stargate, but it wont PLAY like Stargate. And thats what matters to me.

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I think it is largely a Shooter game; just not First Person.  I don't recall that much of the TV show involved looking down the barrel of a rifle.

A lot of the situations I recall involved were more like standoff situations than hunt-and-kill assaults.  The fighter-types would hold the enemy at bay while the scientists/archeologists/engineers would be working on turning something on, deciphering something, finding something, etc.  In a game, that could make every class equally important to a mission.

Those fighting situations involved quite a bit more strategy than simple point-and-shoot contests.  Of course all that is changing now that the show is becoming "Fargate," but I'm kinda hoping that's not the direction they take with the game.

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Originally posted by Kjarl
Cook is not a fan of grinding and says missions are going to be very important. Random encounters are not a thing of the past though.  ...I  !!H  A  T  E!! having to stand around for 3 freaking hours waiting on a group to get together to go out and do a mission,quest,task or whatever! 

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Some of the early info on the game talked about the use of 'bots:  for example, you could have a fighter character and take a bunch of techs to do that part of the job, or vice-a-versa.  It even implied that different types of missions would require different breakdowns of classes, so even a regular group might want to add a few 'bots from time to time.  They also said there would be a generalist class, which could imply a class suited to soloing and/or pickup groups.

But that was before that whole FUBAR situation where they ended up with the new developer.  Does anybody know whether they started over completely from scratch, or did they try to hold on to some of the original concepts and/or code?