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zensaber  4/06/07 1:46:23 PM

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What are you stupid lotr came out WWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAY before warcraft
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Karnan  4/06/07 1:53:33 PM

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Originally posted by Vanguarde
Originally posted by Solon22

Argh, this OP makes me cry. WoW got all their ideas off other games, and concepts. Lord of the Rings is pretty much the original concept of orcs, hobbits, etc. Though you can probably bet that some of these creatures were made up even before Tolkien's time.

And as for where WoW got their cartoony graphics? Well they didn't make up those either, they're from Mythic'sAR.

Dont think so. The original concept of fantasy is from Warhammer series.

I don't believe the original concept of fantasy is from the Warhammer series, But Warhammer was one of the first...but like you said WoW got all their idea's off other games concepts.

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Terminus-Est  4/07/07 7:27:44 PM

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Originally posted by Vanguarde
Originally posted by Solon22

Argh, this OP makes me cry. WoW got all their ideas off other games, and concepts. Lord of the Rings is pretty much the original concept of orcs, hobbits, etc. Though you can probably bet that some of these creatures were made up even before Tolkien's time.

And as for where WoW got their cartoony graphics? Well they didn't make up those either, they're from Mythic's WAR.

Dont think so. The original concept of fantasy is from Warhammer series.

Lol! This post really made me laugh. LoTR predates Warhammer by, what, 25-30 years or so? You do your name proud
 
EliteMarine  4/08/07 9:00:19 AM

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where do you think wow got all of its ideas lotro is just following the races in tolkiens story wow is the the first mmo with these ideas lol


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Keogh  4/08/07 9:13:32 AM

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Originally posted by Yummycake

Well, if you think about the races you can play as in this game compared to WoW, its almost the same. I have no problem with this, I think its just really ironic that they would be so similar.

Gnome(WoW) - Hobbit(Lotr)

Night Elf(WoW) - Elf(Lotr)

Human(WoW) - Human(Lotr)

Dwarf(WoW) - Dwarf(Lotr)

I know this game will be nothing like WoW, but I wanted to just point this out.

Thanks--->

~Cake~

You young man, are an idiot.

Try playing fewer video and PC games and study harder in school. It would be good if you read a few books as well.

READ:

The Lord of the Rings is an epic high fantasy novel written by English academic J. R. R. Tolkien. The story began as a sequel to Tolkien's earlier fantasy book, The Hobbit, and soon developed into a much larger story. It was written in stages between 1937 and 1949, with much of it being created during World War II.[1] It was originally published in three volumes in 1954 and 1955 (much to Tolkien's annoyance, since he had intended it to be a single volume).[2] It has since been reprinted numerous times and translated into at least 38 languages,[3] becoming one of the most popular works in 20th-century literature.

The action in The Lord of the Rings is set in what the author conceived to be the lands of the real Earth, inhabited by humanity but placed in a fictional past, before our science but after the fall of his version of Atlantis, which he calls Númenor.[4] Tolkien gave this setting a modern English name, Middle-earth, derived from the Old English Middangeard,[5] the realm where humans live in Norse and related Germanic mythologies.

The story concerns peoples such as Hobbits, Elves, Men, Dwarves, Wizards, and Orcs and centres on the Ring of Power made by the Dark Lord Sauron. Starting from quiet beginnings in the Shire, the story ranges across Middle-earth and follows the courses of the War of the Ring. The main story is followed by six appendices that provide a wealth of historical and linguistic background material,[6] as well as an index of characters, place names, and terms of note.

Along with Tolkien's other writings, The Lord of the Rings has been subjected to extensive analysis of its literary themes and origins. Although a major work in itself, the story is merely the last movement of a larger cycle, or legendarium, that Tolkien had worked on since 1917.[7] Influences on this earlier work, and on the story of The Lord of the Rings, include philology, mythology, industrialization, and religion, as well as earlier fantasy works and Tolkien's experiences in World War I.[8] The Lord of the Rings in its turn is considered to have had a great effect on modern fantasy, and the impact of Tolkien's works is such that the use of the words "Tolkienian" and "Tolkienesque" have been recorded in the Oxford English Dictionary.[9]

The immense and enduring popularity of The Lord of the Rings has led to numerous references in popular culture, the founding of many societies by fans of Tolkien's works,[10] and a large number of books about Tolkien and his works being published. The Lord of the Rings has inspired (and continues to inspire) short stories, video games, artworks and musical works. Numerous adaptations of Tolkien's works have been made for a wide range of media. Adaptations of The Lord of the Rings in particular have been made for radio, theatre, and film. The 2001–2003 release of the widely acclaimed Lord of the Rings film trilogy prompted a new surge of interest in The Lord of the Rings and Tolkien's other works.[11]


 
Dradiin  4/08/07 9:21:14 AM

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Originally posted by Yummycake

Well, if you think about the races you can play as in this game compared to WoW, its almost the same. I have no problem with this, I think its just really ironic that they would be so similar.

Gnome(WoW) - Hobbit(Lotr)

Night Elf(WoW) - Elf(Lotr)

Human(WoW) - Human(Lotr)

Dwarf(WoW) - Dwarf(Lotr)

I know this game will be nothing like WoW, but I wanted to just point this out.

Thanks--->

~Cake~

ROFL you really said one of the worst things anyone could have said in this forum.

WoW has taken all its ideas from LoTR (books), D&D (books and Pen and Paper game), Warhammer (figurine based game made by Games Workshop), Ultima Online (1 of the first Gui based MMO or back then known as a MUD), EverQuest (yeah you know this one originally developed by a little known company called Verant, later owned by SOE), and last but certainly not least Dark Age of Camelot (devloped by the same company who is now making Warhammer online, Mythic/EA).

So actually WoW co-opted several ideas and made its own history with Warcraft 1,2, and 3 then set out and made a MMO based on the cannon of the Warcraft games. Oh, and least i forget, there was a lawsuit filed by Games Workshop that was later dropped concerning how WoW had copied several intellectual properties from the Warhammer stories/games.

So there ya go know you know all about WoW and where it got its background.

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sitheus  4/08/07 9:30:19 AM

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See what happens when WoW fanboys like the OP spend all night raiding.  It makes them stupid and ignorant.  So kiddies, stay away from WoW.   But people can't understand why players come to hate and detest WoW. Well there you have it. Not only is the game boring but the majority of community is made up of people like the OP.  Delusional sense of eliteness from playing WoW + Stupidity + Ignorance = OP.   Be afraid, be very afraid that millions of them willfully exist like that.

 
DrCaligari  4/08/07 9:41:37 AM

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It's always sad to see that people still think Lotr (or any other Fantasy settings) owe anything to Wow.

Most fantasy games we know today can be brought back to two persons:

JRR Tolkien (Fantasy) and Robert E Howards (Swords and Sorcery or Dark/Heroic Fantasy)

I can understand people like game X or setting Y but before stating that games/settings are spinoffs from WoW,

some reading/research/knowledge should be preferable.

 

Some history:

Robert E Howard : late '20's early '30s (Conan - Swords and Sorcery)

JRR Tolkien : late 30's ......

Fritz Leiber : 40's-80's (Swords and Sorcery with Fafhrd and The Gray Mauser)

Mervin Peake :46-59 Castle Gormenghast Trilogy

Tanith Lee: 70's-.... :Birthgrave Trology and tons of others

Terry Brooks: '77-'85 :Shannara Trilogy

Edward Wagner : '70s: Kane the Damned

P&P : '74 D&D and in '75 the alternative T&T

Hope this is usefull for some people.

 

Currently playing : V:SoH / WoW

Starting : Lotro

Cancelling WoW when AoC/CoS arrives

 

 
jwshaw88  4/08/07 9:49:37 AM