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Plagueshot 6/20/06 11:29:15 AM
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Joined: 11/26/05 |
I don't know if anyone else feels the same but the biggest thing keeping me from subsribing to eve is the fact that I can never catch up to a long time subscriber. I enjoyed the trial but starting in a game with less then 100,000 skill point when other people have over 20,000,000 is just turning me off from the game. If they opened a brand new server I would subsribe the second the server opened. Anyone else feel the same way or do you like just the one server?
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Cymek 6/20/06 11:45:59 AM
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Apprentice Member
Joined: 11/25/05 |
I initially felt this way until I put a little time into the game, learned some mechanics and realized you CAN be a viable PvPer as a fairly new person. The people with tremendous amounts of skill points simply can do more than a new person....not necessarily better. Example: You have put some time in ...maybe 6 months and have a badass Battleship with nice equipment. You can PvP and hang with the 20 mil SP person. The difference is the 20M SP person can fly a Caldari BS, A minmatar BS and maybe some high end industrial ships....AND runs a corp with all the associated skills. But have no doubt. It will take no small amount of time, say 2 months, to get up there. But you WILL get there, and if you are a smart player, you CAN beat down a 3 year multi million SP vet. I am still somewhat of a noob, so I invite any critisisms/corrections/bashings from an EVE vet. |
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Mylon 6/20/06 3:11:52 PM
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Joined: 2/02/06 |
Read the skill descriptions carefully. Most of them provide something like a 2% bonus per skill level, and most stuff requires level 3 or 4 to use anyway. Combine that with the fact that level 5 in a skill requires more time than levels 1-4 combined and what do you get? An average player has a 108% effectiveness and the vet has 110% effectiveness. The lower level player is much more competitive.
See above with what all of those millions of skill points _really_ mean. Aside from their extra 2%, they can also do a whole bunch of different stuff. Big deal. |
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Raver 6/28/06 2:18:49 AM
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Joined: 11/21/04 |
A new server would be good but i think a new rule-set would even be better:
Make it so there is a server where actual XPing determines how you level. Each level you then allocate some points to the various skills or save points for bigger skills. If you fight you gain XP , PVP xp , missions XP , mining XP , research XP etc.. I am so tired of hearing the ... you can still be effective bull. I want to be equal or better not effective. You can be effective if you ultra specialize. if you want to be equa/betterl to an existing player then forget it - buy a char off ebay or play something else.. Every new content update is a slew of stuff a newbie wont get near anytime soon. |
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Azirophos 6/29/06 1:34:51 AM
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Joined: 7/27/05 |
EVE is not about SPs! EVE is one of the few games where high LEVEL != the I win button. You don't need to catch up with older charaters..... Please, get rid of this misconception. EVE does not derive it's fun from having a lot of SPs (ie high "level"). There are people with more SPs than me, and people with less SPs, but I dont give a damn, when I engage in combat. I got my ship and and I see what the other(s) has(have). You engage or avoid based on that information (and if there are others around), not on character age, SPs or whatever. Shipsetup, teamwork, and good RL knowledge of EVE''s mechanics will win you the day over SPs anytime. oh and @ your idea: The China Cluster is the only thing I accept in regard of multiple servers, since China requires MMOs to comply to certain rules, rules which require an own server. I understand that and I accept it, but multiple western Servers would kill a lot of the uniqueness of EVE, and I certainly would quit if CCP would start to open new ones. |
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RollinDutch 6/29/06 3:21:27 AM
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Novice Member
Joined: 5/30/06 |
No. Go play WoW. |
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Raver 6/29/06 6:22:28 AM
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Novice Member
Joined: 11/21/04 |
Eve despite all the fanbois has just over 100k subrscribers. Compared to WOW , FFXI (500k) its really a niche game. Its only surviving because there is nothing else out there in space that does anything close. how long will this last before a good competitior comes in.
EVE has huge barriers to entry that are getting worse every real time second , your solution is dont worry about SP but I have seen enough poeple say they dont want to join because of real time training that the game could have another 100k on a seperate server if alternative styles of play were allowed. But maybe CCP wouldnt have its wallet in poeples pockets so long. Lets look at a grind game like EQ. Their doing a progression server so that poeple have a chance to start afresh. DOAC did a classic server which also does this. I guess you guys are worried that if another server came up you wouldnt have newbs to farm before they quit in 3 months as most new players would start on a server where time played = sklill gained. Not time payed = skill gained. I played the game , enjoyed it alot at first. but grew tired of "months" of training I would need to be able to fly the type of ships i wanted to. They move to an XP server model ill be one of the first to sign up and maybe many others. Do you want the game to grow ? In 2-3 years it may be a game propped up by poeple playing too long wondering where are all the new players in the game. With your logic every car dealer should have only sedans for sale. Anyone wanting a different car experience can get lost. |
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Stumpy26 6/29/06 8:06:20 AM
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Joined: 6/01/06 |
So basicly you are saying a 10 year old kid that has no job, no money and lives off his perants should get the same gear as a 30 year old that has been working very long and hard to get his car, job, wife, house etc. Am I the only one that finds that rather imature go play wow |
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Raver 6/29/06 8:11:17 AM
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Joined: 11/21/04 |
Dude its a game not real life. We play games to escape real life. Grow a brain.
Go play EVE. |
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Stumpy26 6/29/06 8:14:26 AM
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?? Im a noob just like you I only have 1.6 mill sps I get griefed sometimes by a$$hole vets(i made a post about that today). Thats Eve (much like life its unfair and cruel) dont try to change and if you dont like it then please just play another game like some one else said