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Xcathdra  5/24/06 2:35:16 PM

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Originally posted by ixontes

Originally posted by Clackamas

Originally posted by ixontes
Has anyone investigated if the Better Business Bureau would get involved?
With SOE or MMORPG?

SOE

Kinda... You can file a complaint with the BBB out of California since that is where Sony's Corp office is located. They have a file, but they will not file lawsuits on individuals behalfs (so the letter I got stated).

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Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

Fadeus  5/24/06 2:37:50 PM

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Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by SagoI may be wrong, and I appologize to Stradden ahead of time if I am, but the way I see it:
I think THIS thread, in combination with the RECENT influx of blatantly obvious $OE Developers trying to BS everyone about how GREAT this POS SWG is and how wonderful the $OE developers are at what they do, is HIGHLY suspect. They have obviously complained to management here at MMORPG.COM.
No one from SOE or LA has complained about anything.

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Sago  5/24/06 2:38:16 PM

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Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by Sago

I may be wrong, and I appologize to Stradden ahead of time if I am, but the way I see it:

I think THIS thread, in combination with the RECENT influx of blatantly obvious $OE Developers trying to BS everyone about how GREAT this POS SWG is and how wonderful the $OE developers are at what they do, is HIGHLY suspect. They have obviously complained to management here at MMORPG.COM.



No one from SOE or LA has complained about anything.

Thank you

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Shayde  5/24/06 2:38:30 PM

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Originally posted by Malickiebloo  . ALmost every game on the market sees facelifts everyday, In order to keep things fresh for their players . IF they are having major declines in subscriptions (losing more than they gain ) It is suiting they try and improve it and reach more peoples expectations .

What soe did was try and improve their game , Did they succeed ? That is dependant on opinion .  But that dose not mean other companys in the furture should not try and improve their products . Soe will still keep changing their game until it reaches what players want (not just vets but , players interested in a Star wars MMO in general  ) Or it will never see a finsihed state due to time constraints and funding .



Facelift?

That's like saying the six million dollar man had a hangnail taken care of.

They improved the game with JTL, they improved the game with ROTW and even to a point ToOW. If you kept the two game "facelifts" separate, they did a lot to improve the game.

Only problem is that not once, but TWICE they screwed up the core game. They added content, but WORSENED the functionality.

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Malickiebloo  5/24/06 2:42:57 PM

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Originally posted by Shayde

Originally posted by Malickiebloo  . ALmost every game on the market sees facelifts everyday, In order to keep things fresh for their players . IF they are having major declines in subscriptions (losing more than they gain ) It is suiting they try and improve it and reach more peoples expectations .

What soe did was try and improve their game , Did they succeed ? That is dependant on opinion .  But that dose not mean other companys in the furture should not try and improve their products . Soe will still keep changing their game until it reaches what players want (not just vets but , players interested in a Star wars MMO in general  ) Or it will never see a finsihed state due to time constraints and funding .



Facelift?

That's like saying the six million dollar man had a hangnail taken care of.

They improved the game with JTL, they improved the game with ROTW and even to a point ToOW. If you kept the two game "facelifts" separate, they did a lot to improve the game.

Only problem is that not once, but TWICE they screwed up the core game. They added content, but WORSENED the functionality.

WHere did I say I didn't feel they screwed up ? that is not the major point of my post , therefor I didn't further the statement . I said all games get facelifts that is not in reference to SWG alone .  The point was The game will continually be changed until A. They get it right or B. It shuts down . Same goes for any game on the market .

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Clackamas  5/24/06 2:47:12 PM

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Originally posted by Minimum

Originally posted by Lepidus


Originally posted by Clackamas



 If you have a thoughtful discussion that does not involve death threats, then feel free to make new threads.


Ok, so if I only want to maim them a little, that's ok? (sorry, couldn't resist)

I seem to recall John Smedley jokingly express concern about attending one of the Summits for fear of being shot... It is unfortunate that he made the joke.  While I dislike J.S. and wish to see him fired and banned from the MMORPG industry, I certainly don't wish him nor the staff any physical harm... a little humility maybe.
 
Wildcat84  5/24/06 2:49:53 PM

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So we aren't allowed to:

/kneel;
/meditate;
/powerboost;
/pause 20;
/center;
/tar %personwhodesignednge%;
/warcry2;
/dizzy;
/knockdown;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/pause 20;
/tar %personwhodesignednge%;
/warcry2;
/dizzy;
/knockdown;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/pause 20;
/tar %personwhodesignednge%;
/warcry2;
/dizzy;
/knockdown;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;

(triple for the win)



 
Seloth  5/24/06 3:05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Malickiebloo
(snipping the rest)
I don't agree to the WOW conspiracy . I have played both games extensively . They are as different as an apple and an orange . If anything they used wow as a buisness model to follow . But still changes are changes massive or small . It is all in an attempt to improve their product .

Wow = levels, NGE = levels (granted from cu)

Wow= quest driven leveling, NGE = quet driven leveling

Wow= locked into a class, NGE = locked into a class (unless you pay)

Wow= talent subsets to make the people in the same class different (does not really work for alot of the classes), NGE = Professional subsets (3, same ammount as wow btw) to allow people is the smae class to be different

Wow= target lock, with facing and los, NGE= no target lock

WoW=crafting some of it is very useful, some of it is not, NGE = Crafting, if we believe Obriak then some of it is very useful and other ascpests are not.

frankly Mali there are a lot if basic similarites wether you like it our not. I have to disagree with saying that they are apples and oranges. About the ONLY thing NGE was over WoW currently is a kick in the back side space simulator.

 
Shayde  5/24/06 3:05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Wildcat84
So we aren't allowed to:

/kneel;
/meditate;
/powerboost;
/pause 20;
/center;
/tar %personwhodesignednge%;
/warcry2;
/dizzy;
/knockdown;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/pause 20;
/tar %personwhodesignednge%;
/warcry2;
/dizzy;
/knockdown;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/pause 20;
/tar %personwhodesignednge%;
/warcry2;
/dizzy;
/knockdown;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;
/unarmedhit3;

(triple for the win)




Nope.. not since the CU.

Shayde - SWG (dead)
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It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Shayde  5/24/06 3:07:16 PM