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Originally posted by Nikoz78
Censorship sucks. 

Definition:  "Censorship is the control of speech and other forms of human expression."

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Originally posted by Agricola1
Bah! I give it 6 months before Brad sells out and does a runner, leaving everyone in the lurch at the total mercy of the evil $medley. Fanbois have been warned.

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its been 6 months and they are nearing the open beta phase, no sign of Brad selling out yet.  that makes your stupid ass prediction false.  congratulations on becoming a total flaming tard, lol.

EDIT:  on topic now, SOE is a successful company whether you haters like it or not.  im no fanboi of SOE, but hello, almost all of their games are still pretty popular.  EQII is in the top 5, EQI is still a hit, even after all these years, SWG is still....around, lol.  some of them are releasing expansions, thats not the sign of the end, thats the sign of stablity.  frankly, ive never had a problem with anything SOE related at all.  been around for a pretty long time, and ive never....not once, had a problem with SOE.  im not the only one.  i know that there are alot of people that did and hate SOE, thats your business.  its not me job to try to convince you to not hate SOE, tbh, i couldnt care less, lol.  but the fact that SOE is still a success and growing despite the boycott that alot of you having started amongst yourselves, is testament that youre not the majority.  so for comments like, "SOE sucks and is going under." and "Vanguard is doomed because SOE is involved." to be thrown around is, to put it lightly, just plain stupid.  i was there when the doomsayers were predicting the end of Matrix shortly after launch.  guess what, Matrix is still here.  granted, its not a huge success, but its still here with its diehard fans and supporters.  it made the doomsayers look pretty stupid, and gave me a pretty good laugh.  i read the forum titles that sprang up right after the NGE in SWG, "the end of SWG, its done".  guess what, there still here.  despite what you think and all that youve done to disuade newcomers to SOE, they continue to stay here and in some cases grow a bit.  so i guess what im saying is, you go right on ahead with your pitiful boycott while the rest of us enjoy the games that you wont look at.

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Originally posted by PlanoMM

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Originally posted by Agricola1
Bah! I give it 6 months before Brad sells out and does a runner, leaving everyone in the lurch at the total mercy of the evil $medley. Fanbois have been warned.

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its been 6 months and they are nearing the open beta phase, no sign of Brad selling out yet.  that makes your stupid ass prediction false.  congratulations on becoming a total flaming tard, lol.

EDIT:  on topic now, SOE is a successful company whether you haters like it or not.  im no fanboi of SOE, but hello, almost all of their games are still pretty popular.  EQII is in the top 5, EQI is still a hit, even after all these years, SWG is still....around, lol.  some of them are releasing expansions, thats not the sign of the end, thats the sign of stablity.  frankly, ive never had a problem with anything SOE related at all.  been around for a pretty long time, and ive never....not once, had a problem with SOE.  im not the only one.  i know that there are alot of people that did and hate SOE, thats your business.  its not me job to try to convince you to not hate SOE, tbh, i couldnt care less, lol.  but the fact that SOE is still a success and growing despite the boycott that alot of you having started amongst yourselves, is testament that youre not the majority.  so for comments like, "SOE sucks and is going under." and "Vanguard is doomed because SOE is involved." to be thrown around is, to put it lightly, just plain stupid.  i was there when the doomsayers were predicting the end of Matrix shortly after launch.  guess what, Matrix is still here.  granted, its not a huge success, but its still here with its diehard fans and supporters.  it made the doomsayers look pretty stupid, and gave me a pretty good laugh.  i read the forum titles that sprang up right after the NGE in SWG, "the end of SWG, its done".  guess what, there still here.  despite what you think and all that youve done to disuade newcomers to SOE, they continue to stay here and in some cases grow a bit.  so i guess what im saying is, you go right on ahead with your pitiful boycott while the rest of us enjoy the games that you wont look at.

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I am by no means flaming you whatsoever......but the fact is, swg is there, but with how many people? Almost none. Its practically empty space....maybe some of the hardcore gamer went back there just for memories....but its just empty space.

And people do have a right to be angry at SOE. They literally, ruined people. SWG was a lot of people's lives. There were good memories and good times there. SOE wouldn't listen to their fanbase and continued changing the whole vision and the combat system of the entire game. Not once, but twice. The Combat Upgrade, and the NGE.

Many people hate SOE for it. I mean, really, really hate them.

SWG was infact, for the people who played it, their dream mmo.

So please, I respect your post, and I know it isn't a personal attack. But some of us have a right to be angry with what SOE did. And SOE had made some poor decisions in the past that ultimately, change people's thinking of the company.

yes, i understand that, and i respect your opinion and viewpoint.  all im saying is that there are still people playing all of those games, ALL of those games.  it may not be a lot compared to say WOW, but what game does have a population compared to WOW?

i dont have a problem with people hating SOE or even voicing said hate.  no, me problem is with the naysayers that want to convince everyone to boycott SOE and run Vanguard into the ground based on their own hatred for said company.  frankly, i think that Vanguard is gonna rock, regardless of the co-publisher.  thats me opinion.  i dont expect others to share it.

just me 2 gps worth.

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Originally posted by PlanoMM

yes, i understand that, and i respect your opinion and viewpoint.  all im saying is that there are still people playing all of those games, ALL of those games.  it may not be a lot compared to say WOW, but what game does have a population compared to WOW?

i dont have a problem with people hating SOE or even voicing said hate.  no, me problem is with the naysayers that want to convince everyone to boycott SOE and run Vanguard into the ground based on their own hatred for said company.  frankly, i think that Vanguard is gonna rock, regardless of the co-publisher.  thats me opinion.  i dont expect others to share it.

just me 2 gps worth.

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Ok. Lets straighten this out with all you soe haters, SOE IS A CO-PUBLISHER! THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE GAME EXCEPT FOR PUBLISHING ETC.

It is run by Brad. BRAD HAS CONTROL. BRAD IS CONVINCED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL AND TO SERVE HIS CUSTOMERS WITH RESPECT AND WILL NOT BE BOUGHT OFF.

He has everything he needs right now to have a successful game.

Quite frankly, I want Vanguard to ROCK.

And it will prove itself in time. Nuff said.

Hah...this is pretty fun.....hey you got xfire PlanMM? Mine if warmechh

PM me on here if u can.

Maybe we can discuss an mmo just to kill time

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Originally posted by Psycked
SOE scares me!

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Originally posted by dragonace

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Originally posted by Psycked
SOE scares me!

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You already used this reply in another thread.  At least try and be original if you are going to go and spam the whole forum with drivel.

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Originally posted by MX13

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Originally posted by dragonace

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Originally posted by Psycked
SOE scares me!

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You already used this reply in another thread.  At least try and be original if you are going to go and spam the whole forum with drivel.

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He's just stat padding...

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DISCLAIMER:  this is stat padding

VANGUARDS GONNA RULE!!!!!!!! YAHOO!!!!!!!!

hehe...........

I'll let all you fanbois beta test the retail version of game for me. 

All that said, I am still looking foward to playing Vanguard.

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   Well, after reading several pages of posts I find it that SOE has done people bad in the past. I have been a member of EQ since o1 and also play WoW. I for one do not play games based on the publisher but for the game itself. I do believe that sony did alot of people wrong and that they need a lot of work with CS. I also know that will not stop me from playing Vanguard. In fact, If I based my game choice on cust. service I prolly would retire completely from all mmorg's.

 Also, If the All-MIGHTY came down and created a MMORG, there would be some who followed and some who hated. Some who praised and some who curse. The truth IMO is that when you create anything you have to start somewhere and decisions have to be made and you have to hope you made the right one.

 Sony made bad ones and Im sure they are taking that into consideration.(at least I hope) I for one am greatly anticipating the game as EQ was my fav. The only prob I have with EQ is how you can go LFG for hours and progress seemed to be dictated by the ability to find groupage in what seems to be an ever-declining poulation.

 Sitting for hours lfg was and still is very annoying to me. Im sure that some would argue that is what an online community is all about but if thats the case then so be it. I hope that in the event that the population dwindled in Vanguard, I would still be able to play solo.

Note: all expressed above are soley my opinions

  I hope the game turns out as Great and Innovative as its predessor was and Sony learns from their mistakes  and to see you all in game. Until then Happy Gaming and Merry Christmas/New Year's =)

Nilael Innoruuk, Gennocide/al etc EQ/WoW salutes all Gamers, Game on!

Even though i pretty much hated SOE expansions and overall direction of EQ1 i still will give Vangaurd a chance. I simply am giving vangaurd a chance based on what i've seen and i trust Brad who helped develop a game i really loved the original Everquest before SOE. I do blame SOE for ruining EQ1 in my opinion but my faith in Brad's idea of a great game outweighs my fear of SOE somehow messing it up. I'm not even gonna comment on EQ2 or SWG.