$14.99? $60?

basically what they're saying with those prices is that the game is the same quality as world of warcraft which is a pretty big joke.

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“Even if its not all finished like we’d like, but we have too much delays so now we have to get it out, its time,” says Quilichini

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Originally posted by Tymora

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“Even if its not all finished like we’d like, but we have too much delays so now we have to get it out, its time,” says Quilichini

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Ummmmm, ya.  That just about says it all.  Maybe I'll buy it months from now, if they finally complete the game with all of the features they promised over 3 years ago.  I'd like a box, too, so that is another bonus of waiting, aside from all of the other nonsense that players will have to put up with after the release of this mmo.

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Does anyone get the impression that the interviewer was, well, slightly underwhelmed by this game?

There's nothing really bad in the article about the game...it just sounds so, erm....mediocre. I'm thinking of lines like these ones:

“To be honest, only 70% of all the features on our website will be in the release," admitted Quilichini before adding that the rest would come through patches.

"The game’s combat system is the “classical one for MMORPGs” with spells, special moves, etc. He added though that the entire experience looks better thanks to motion captured animations, but admitted there were “no specific innovations” on that front."

Ultimately, Dark and Light provides players with a PvP experience, a craft based economy and the ability to conquer new lands.

“Even if its not all finished like we’d like, but we have too much delays so now we have to get it out, its time,” says Quilichini.

Essentially, doesn't it just sound like every other generic fantasy MMORPG out there?

auryx

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Originally posted by auryx

Does anyone get the impression that the interviewer was, well, slightly underwhelmed by this game?

There's nothing really bad in the article about the game...it just sounds so, erm....mediocre. I'm thinking of lines like these ones:

“To be honest, only 70% of all the features on our website will be in the release," admitted Quilichini before adding that the rest would come through patches.

"The game’s combat system is the “classical one for MMORPGs” with spells, special moves, etc. He added though that the entire experience looks better thanks to motion captured animations, but admitted there were “no specific innovations” on that front."

Ultimately, Dark and Light provides players with a PvP experience, a craft based economy and the ability to conquer new lands.

“Even if its not all finished like we’d like, but we have too much delays so now we have to get it out, its time,” says Quilichini.

Essentially, doesn't it just sound like every other generic fantasy MMORPG out there?

auryx

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Originally posted by Lepidus

Lead Designer Stephane Quilichini and Marketing Manager Géraldine Lescs answer our questions as Dark & Light moves within a week of launch. Included is exclusive details on the game's final pricing plan and five exclusive screenshots.

To play, players have two options. They can pay $59.99 (US dollars or Euros, depending on where they live) for a game key and their first month’s subscriptions, or pay the same price for the key and something called a Freedom Pass. Normal subscribers pay $14.99 a month for full access. Freedom Pass subscribers pay the same price for 15 credits. These credits are used to unlock things like new areas, high level equipment and other content. Freedom Pass members cannot be guild leaders, fort leaders, have limited access to titles and must use one credit to unlock each item above the companion level. “It will be less expensive for casual gamers,” explained Quilichini.

You can read more here.

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Listen, this guy is absolutly so clueless it's rediculious.

Almost the whole MMORPG community (players playing the other games and long-standing citizens of these games) have already indirectly voted on this game. Whether threw messege boards or while playing their perspective games (EQ, EQ2, DAOC, WOW..etc) all the "talk" about Dark & Light is bad and more BAD.

Stephane NOW wants to talk about his game... where was he the last 4 years ???  Dark & Light's core fanbase up and left about 5 months ago leaving a bunch of newbies on their own message boards carrying the torch, why did the older and long standing core players walk away from Dark & Light ? COMMUNICATION

Look, nobody wants to bash a game. Either a game is good or it isn't, very few games are "bad". This is one of them. It is soooo bad sinply because Stephane has not taken the right direction with his DEV team. There was no beta, SOG was a joke the Stress Test this week REALLY isn't a stress test and now they are starting beta 1 week before the game go live ..?

Many veterans of this genra' had repeatedly asked WHERE is the DEV's, why is there no skill tree...etc  WHy is the snowboarding but no underwater travel...?

The kicker is that living on Reunion Island their perception of reality is skewed. Dark & Light should be a bargian bin game ($5.99/month) to equal it's lack of quality and outdated (2001'ish) graphics engine. Artifact Entertainment all taught us a lesson with Horizons, Farlan/NP3 followed the exact steps and alienated themselves from theri perspective buyers and think THEY know what makes game phun.

I don't like to "knock" people, but there isn't one qualified gamer on their DEV team. Dark & Light will certainly appeal to people have the same mentality as the DEV... newbies, who never played these types of games (MMORPG's), But there are PLENTY of other games out there currently that offer a vastly superior game. And let's not even mention the other games comming out later this year.

Dark & Light was a nice effort by non-gamer lead DEV team. Unfortunatly, it offers nothing but a BigWorld (pun intended). This game will flop and go bankrupt by November ..!!

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I think you people underestimate the maschosim of gamers.  Look at SWG... it's still going.  D&L seems to be following in their model.  Unfinished at release, poor communication.  If they follow it up with horrable release and testing practices. thy'll have nailed the SWG model completely.

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Originally posted by Zvorak

There was no beta, SOG was a joke the Stress Test this week REALLY isn't a stress test and now they are starting beta 1 week before the game go live ..?

-Zvorak

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Err sorry man but your flat wrong on this. I am no fan of the game any longer, but I wont let some idiot spew incorrect information. There was a beta it lasted for roughly 8 months, and was ongoing during SOG they were testing the launch version of the game.

As to the rest seems like you got burned by this game cause it isnt going to live up to what you hoped, thats life man not everything is as people say it will be. I dont see a reason for people to post how they think a game company is a bunch of noobs and idiots cause they didnt make the game the way you wanted. Hopefully for us gamers and for the DNL devs the game is playable and fun in 6 months. Not like there is anything else out there worth really playing right now anyway.

As far as the graphics are concerned, I am again have to disagree with you. Personally I think the landscape was wonderfully drawn. Its one of the nicest worlds I have seen. The movement animations need some help or did dunno if they ever got fixed, since I quit playing the beta. I will readily admit though the game needs a redesign of the interface, it is perhaps the worst thing I have ever tried to play with.

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Originally posted by Cohort

Err sorry man but your flat wrong on this. I am no fan of the game any longer, but I wont let some idiot spew incorrect information. There was a beta it lasted for roughly 8 months, and was ongoing during SOG they were testing the launch version of the game.

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Originally posted by MrBoots

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Originally posted by Cohort

Err sorry man but your flat wrong on this. I am no fan of the game any longer, but I wont let some idiot spew incorrect information. There was a beta it lasted for roughly 8 months, and was ongoing during SOG they were testing the launch version of the game.

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Not sure what fantasy world you are living in, but everyone knows that beta ended the day SOG started. It has been discussed on these forums several times already.


This game is a huge pile of crap. It belongs on the trash heap with Mourning. The graphics are poor. Have you looked at any of the textures? They look like they were made by a blind man.

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There has been an External Alpha/beta since late 2003, I was one of the first 50 back in Nov 2003.

Stopped really caring to test it after 6 months, Updates where far between and as mentioned, communication was terrible, just enough to not be called nonexistant.

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Not sure what fantasy world you are living in, but everyone knows that beta ended the day SOG started. It has been discussed on these forums several times already.


This game is a huge pile of crap. It belongs on the trash heap with Mourning. The graphics are poor. Have you looked at any of the textures? They look like they were made by a blind man.

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There has been an External Alpha/beta since late 2003, I was one of the first 50 back in Nov 2003.

Stopped really caring to test it after 6 months, Updates where far between and as mentioned, communication was terrible, just enough to not be called nonexistant.

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Originally posted by Cohort

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Originally posted by Zvorak

There was no beta, SOG was a joke the Stress Test this week REALLY isn't a stress test and now they are starting beta 1 week before the game go live ..?

-Zvorak

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Err sorry man but your flat wrong on this. I am no fan of the game any longer, but I wont let some idiot spew incorrect information. There was a beta it lasted for roughly 8 months, and was ongoing during SOG they were testing the launch version of the game.

As to the rest seems like you got burned by this game cause it isnt going to live up to what you hoped, thats life man not everything is as people say it will be. I dont see a reason for people to post how they think a game company is a bunch of noobs and idiots cause they didnt make the game the way you wanted. Hopefully for us gamers and for the DNL devs the game is playable and fun in 6 months. Not like there is anything else out there worth really playing right now anyway.

As far as the graphics are concerned, I am again have to disagree with you. Personally I think the landscape was wonderfully drawn. Its one of the nicest worlds I have seen. The movement animations need some help or did dunno if they ever got fixed, since I quit playing the beta. I will readily admit though the game needs a redesign of the interface, it is perhaps the worst thing I have ever tried to play with.

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Come May 30th, many more beans will be spilled because the NDA will finally be lifted.

No it won't sadly...Not that it will matter. There isn't anything testers can say that NP3 hasn't proved beyond a shadow of a doubt with their actions. ;)

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Originally posted by Naar

Come May 30th, many more beans will be spilled because the NDA will finally be lifted.

No it won't sadly...Not that it will matter. There isn't anything testers can say that NP3 hasn't proved beyond a shadow of a doubt with their actions. ;)

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