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bjornieus  1/28/06 2:22:05 PM

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Voice Chat system (kind of like Teamspeak or Ventrilo) would be very helpful and useful thing in Hero’s Journey such as it is in the upcoming game Dungeon’s and Dragon’s. It would be useful in my opinion because there will be a lot of grouping (not saying that there won’t be any soloing) in which you could use that to come up with strategies etc… and you would not need to type which would save a lot of time. Why not use Teamspeak or Ventrilo? You will not always be in a group with your friends who know the IP address for your server, and it would be a very annoying and time consuming giving it out every time you’re in a new group. What do you guys think about this?

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xDivianaDRx  1/28/06 2:30:46 PM

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What I don't think you understand, is that a lot of us here, are more focused on roleplaying. Voice chat would pretty much ruin that. I could see voice chat on a PVP server, but on an RP server it is very out of place.

Besides that, those of us who roleplay most likely have a typing speed of about 50wpm or more (I'm at 70 from all that DR) so typing really isn't that much of an issue. I know there are those who still look at the keyboard (my boyfriend does for example) but if I look at the keyboard it really screws me up. It messes up my spelling really bad. Sure my 70 wpm has a few mistakes here or there, but that backspace key is helpful.

 

I really think a voice chat would never work for HJ, and especially not for most of Simu's current or previous customers. If you really want one, USE one of those programs for it.

 

 

On a slightly different topic, I really hope you can't just message anyone anytime either. I LOVE the way it is in DR, where you HAVE TO BE NEAR THEM (same room!) to talk to them or whisper. Unless you like to yell (then you get about two rooms out, right?). The gweths are really nice too, and a great option because if you hate them, DONT WEAR EM!

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bjornieus  1/28/06 4:32:33 PM

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Originally posted by xDivianaDRx

What I don't think you understand, is that a lot of us here, are more focused on roleplaying. Voice chat would pretty much ruin that. I could see voice chat on a PVP server, but on an RP server it is very out of place.

Besides that, those of us who roleplay most likely have a typing speed of about 50wpm or more (I'm at 70 from all that DR) so typing really isn't that much of an issue. I know there are those who still look at the keyboard (my boyfriend does for example) but if I look at the keyboard it really screws me up. It messes up my spelling really bad. Sure my 70 wpm has a few mistakes here or there, but that backspace key is helpful.


 Hmm it seems to me that you do not think that there is any strategy involved in RP servers and that there is only strategy in PVP servers. I disagree, i think that there is strategy involved, in what to kill first, any natural enviorment that can be used, who attacks first etc... I do agree that many people who have played roleplaying games before do know how to type fast with little no few mistakes, but word of mouth is still faster. Speed isnt everything either, it is a lot harder to show your tone towards a subject in writing because you would need a lot more words to describe your attitude (for example a joke and having a good time). Again... This is just my oppinions and hopefully ill see what everyone else thinks through this poll, and maybe a brief explanation in a post?!?


 
xDivianaDRx  1/28/06 6:51:33 PM

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I would like to know where I said there was no strategy involved.


Although I know what kind of strategy I'll use. (soloing! yay!)


It's NOT hard to express yourself with words. Besides if you don't know how someone will respond to a joke and you're worrying about it, most likely, THE JOKE SHOULD BE KEPT TO YOURSELF.

Maybe the group should discuss strategy before they go to the fight, or discuss it during the walk. Anyway, whenever I've been in a real fight, nothing besides me and the person fighting was even really there. It was oblivious. (man do I miss those little fist fights)

I know I seem to be getting on you for everything you say, but I think part of it is because you remind me of my ex boyfriend who was absolutely the worst person in the whole world to me, and he did some PRETTY bad stuff. So that's just kinda coming out.

And I'm not one to watch what I say because of someone else. Unless it's someone I really care a lot about.

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bjornieus  1/28/06 8:59:31 PM

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Originally posted by xDivianaDRx

I would like to know where I said there was no strategy involved.


Although I know what kind of strategy I'll use. (soloing! yay!)


It's NOT hard to express yourself with words. Besides if you don't know how someone will respond to a joke and you're worrying about it, most likely, THE JOKE SHOULD BE KEPT TO YOURSELF.

Maybe the group should discuss strategy before they go to the fight, or discuss it during the walk. Anyway, whenever I've been in a real fight, nothing besides me and the person fighting was even really there. It was oblivious. (man do I miss those little fist fights)

I know I seem to be getting on you for everything you say, but I think part of it is because you remind me of my ex boyfriend who was absolutely the worst person in the whole world to me, and he did some PRETTY bad stuff. So that's just kinda coming out.

And I'm not one to watch what I say because of someone else. Unless it's someone I really care a lot about.


You said that in PvP servers Voice Chat would be a useful thing to have! What i meant was that why is it useful in PvP and not in RP? You must think that there are some times when combat does not end in pvp for a while, and you need to come up with new strategy's all the time. Well your correct, but that happens in RP a lot aswell, and when your in combat you cannot stop and write some kind of new strategy to your group. This is were you said there was no strategy involved in an indirect way. I think that even though you might be an experience gamer, as you said "Although i know what kind of startegy I"ll use. (soloing! yay!)" you lack group knowledge. If you had more experience in grouping you would know that it is easier to orginize a group through a Voice Chat System. The advantage in hearing someone is that you will hear them while in writing you might overlook it and do something that might cause the death of your party. It is very hard to express yourself in word, for example exaggeration while in speaking you can use an exaggerating tone to get your point across, in writing you have to use confusing trick on words. Looking at that statment that you wrote (about expressing yourself) it seems like you do not know what your talking and you do not back it up with any information at all. Maybe groups should discuss strategy before fights but that is not always possible as i explained before. (I dont know what games you played but ive played SWG, CoH, CoV, GW, EvE Online, Horizons, EQII, WoW, and DDO Beta and voice chat really makes a difference). Oh and about your "ex-boyfriend" we do not need to hear any of your personal life, or your problems with him or what he did. This is a post about suggestions for Hero's Journey not about your ex and like you said about that joke thing...( that you obviously did not understand) "SHOULD BE KEPT TO YOURSELF." I only thought that this would be a good improvment to the game (not a priority) and if you do not like it you can just turn it off in the options panel, simple as that. No reason to get angry at me.
 
Kuzzle  1/28/06 10:19:45 PM

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   I think that voice would be a great addition to the game. I'm not a very good roleplayer, and I know it might present a few problems if you wanted to pose or something, but I also know that it makes getting your point across. I have a tendancy to say sarcastic things, and it doesn't work at all in text.

   Now, the only game that I've played that had voice chat was Phantasy Star Online for the Xbox(I know it's not a MMORPG, but your have groups in it as well.) and the voice chat made things a lot easier. IF someone is new it makes it easier to explain stuff to them, for one. Also, I think it might cut down on dudes playing chicks, which kind of bothers me. Monster Hunter for the PS2 is similar to PSO, but it doesn't have voice chat. I've played both and I gotta say: It was much more fun using voice chat. In fact, it was one of the main reasons that I played PSO. It made it more fun to not have to stop what you were doing(Hard to do when fighting a boss or large group of enemies.) so that you could get a message. For instance: You're grouping with someone who hasn't fought these enemies before(Either new or maybe they've just not been to this particular area before.) and they start throwing fire at a boss. Well, it's resistant to fire, but it's really weak against lightning. This way you could get the message across without stopping, even breifly, the fight with the boss.

   Like I said, it might present some problems to serious RPers, but I feel that these could easily be worked through by the players or addressed by the staff.

   So, in conclusion, I'm all for the addition of voice.

 
bjornieus  1/29/06 1:13:48 AM

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Originally posted by Kuzzle

   I think that voice would be a great addition to the game. I'm not a very good roleplayer, and I know it might present a few problems if you wanted to pose or something, but I also know that it makes getting your point across. I have a tendancy to say sarcastic things, and it doesn't work at all in text.

   Now, the only game that I've played that had voice chat was Phantasy Star Online for the Xbox(I know it's not a MMORPG, but your have groups in it as well.) and the voice chat made things a lot easier. IF someone is new it makes it easier to explain stuff to them, for one. Also, I think it might cut down on dudes playing chicks, which kind of bothers me. Monster Hunter for the PS2 is similar to PSO, but it doesn't have voice chat. I've played both and I gotta say: It was much more fun using voice chat. In fact, it was one of the main reasons that I played PSO. It made it more fun to not have to stop what you were doing(Hard to do when fighting a boss or large group of enemies.) so that you could get a message. For instance: You're grouping with someone who hasn't fought these enemies before(Either new or maybe they've just not been to this particular area before.) and they start throwing fire at a boss. Well, it's resistant to fire, but it's really weak against lightning. This way you could get the message across without stopping, even breifly, the fight with the boss.

   Like I said, it might present some problems to serious RPers, but I feel that these could easily be worked through by the players or addressed by the staff.

   So, in conclusion, I'm all for the addition of voice.


/agree you make things so much clearer than what i do
 
Frozz  1/29/06 2:23:36 AM

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(Quoted from the other VoIP thread)

As one who has played Gemstone for almost 10 years, as well as World of Warcraft over the last year, I am convinced that built in VoIP would be detrimental to the immersiveness that most of us are yearning for in Hero's Journey.

I currently run a 100 person Ventrilo server for my WoW guild on an RP server. Since we all got on Vent I've seen less and less discussions taking place in game, thus leaving any Ventless individuals out of the loop! Often times, Ventrilo discussions deviate from the game to "real life." While that is fine, I do not want to be forced to listen to the latest gab about world politics while I am attempting to slay a foul beast.

Spend a few dollars and purchase a Ventrilo or Teamspeak server if you'd like to talk to your friends. Simutronics has more important things to deal with than managing VoIP servers.

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Shroom_Mage  1/29/06 3:57:24 AM

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Voice chat doesn't just hurt RP. It doesn't just hinder RP. Voice chat crushes RP.

D&DO has voice chat because it's a fast-paced action game. If anyone wants voice chat in HJ, that's fine with me, but I will not join their guilds.

I've been looking a long time for an MMORPG with the amount of roleplaying you can only find in an MUD, and this looks like it. Voice chat would ruin that.

Coming from MUD's, I don't think Simutronics is going to even consider voice chat.