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Lepi,

This article is wonderful!  Plainly.  Although in my case it mean that I am definitely turning my back on this game as been potentially nice for me.

Interesting, detailed, complete!  It is funny that the guy who make PvE server and PvP server like to ENFORCE interdependance, which result in a all or nothing ending.  With both raiding and tradeskills (you will need to raid and do tradeskills for the end game), you are dead sure I won't touch the game, not even with a pole.  But I guess it can be nice for some folks.  All he miss for his "interdependance" is PvP.

Good luck and tons of fun guy,  this game is not for me, nor for any "specialist" who only want to either solo or group, it is for "generalists" that like to do many differents activities.  Tons of fun guys!

"chanter out"! 

PS: I am definitely leaving Vanguard alone now!    I don't believe in his "specific servers" anymore, which was the main reason I was bumping there hoping for non-raiding servers...even with such a server, I would still be trapped in tradeskills, just letting go that "dream" and going to chase another!  A little like when you see a "hottie" and realize how nasty that person is and just let's it go, *sighting*!

Ano, no game is for you.

Good questions, Dana, and an awesome article! Brad really knows his game, and his genre, which is plain to see from this answers. He knows that there are many different types of MMOGamers and that no one game can appeal to them all, but Vanguard should have something for everyone except those that don't like a challenge.

Just can't wait for Vanguard, sick of MMO's that don't offer a serious challenge without instances.

LOL.

Anarchy, I have the most simple desire and no game are for me?   I just want a good solo and grouping system that stand on their own, not dependant on some foreign end game.

I am just hoping to get 1 MMO.  This is all.

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Originally posted by Anofalye

LOL.

 

Anarchy, I have the most simple desire and no game are for me?   I just want a good solo and grouping system that stand on their own, not dependant on some foreign end game.

 

I am just hoping to get 1 MMO.  This is all.

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Well the point is, everyone wants and end game right? Once you get max level you want a challenge. What's challenging about soloing? Even grouping is fairly easy to dial in by the time you reach max level. The biggest challenge of all is co-operating on a large scale, i.e. 20-70 person Raids.

Try Roma Victor. It's historical and not raid based at all, but then you don't like PVP. No one is making a game that is just solo or group based with an end game fully accessable by soloing or grouping.

That is why I say no MMORPG is for you.

I've only been seriously reading up on Vanguard for the past couple of weeks, and I gotta say, it's looking more and more interesting with each read.

I also have to say that this has been one of the best interviews I've read at mmorpg.com in quite a while. Brad is VERY open about his game, and generally gave out three times the information other interviewees give when you ask them a question.

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Originally posted by anarchyart

Well the point is, everyone wants and end game right? Once you get max level you want a challenge. What's challenging about soloing? Even grouping is fairly easy to dial in by the time you reach max level.

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But of all the persons I KNOW in RL, none want a raiding/PvP end game, and none are particuliarly overjoy with tradeskills.  (the last 2 gave up respectively a few weeks ago and 3 days ago and they swear they never want that again, ever)

So your "everyone" is certainly lacking.  Of course, of all the person I know in RL, none bother to write on forums but 1 (beside myself, and he is rarely on forums).

But that is off topic with Vanguard, I was just saying farewell until you come bumping trying to denigrate me once more.  There is FAR more challenge in grouping than in raiding IMO.  And a majority of raiders I meet online can't solo much at all.  But believe what you want, what please you.  Solo judge the individual, it is by far the most requiring.  Grouping can be quite hard as well, but other can compensate your weakness and thereby save you.  But that is disgressing, again you feel you need to attack me.  Again you are wrong.

I prefer grouping over soloing, but I have no shame to admit that solo is harder, since it judge the individual. 1 mistake and you are a goner.  In a group, you have a team with you, so unless everyone does a mistake simultaneously, you are never endangered similarly.  But no, you can't seem to understand that.  Old SSI game products are taking the "raiding" approach on a GBT system, they are MANY layer deeper in strategy and challenge than raiding can be.  Raiding is a waiting system.  The average raider join a group, wait, wait, wait...judge the XP and quit if not enough.  They are not helping the group, they are not contributing, they are just there to amass the XP, sitting on their arses as they do during a raid.  And you want me to respect THAT?  Well, as far as they are on other servers and not affecting my world, NP.  But if they are getting better reward for THAT, I am outta that world, no second though.  I value efficiency and worth.  I am...an achiever.

I was "neutral", not judgemental, I was leaving...than you come arrogant...well arrogant you back slimy unworthy PvP lazy raider!  Go hide your unefficiency behind DKP!