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  ebayne

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Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 2

11/29/05 6:06:54 PM#181


Originally posted by Gamerbear
I also just have to say, I think your proposition that MMORPG players would rather stay with a crappy game than play another is spurious at best. I don't know a single MMORPG player that has only played one game; we tend to play several and tend to move on when games get bad. I'm a light player, and I've played EQ, EQII, DAOC, FFXI, COH, COV, WOW, SWG, and even Maple Story. I don't think any company could stay in business if their attitude is "screw them they're too lazy to cancel their account" these days.

Hi. I'm Eric. I have only played on MMORPG. Star Wars Galaxies. The NGE blows, everybody knows it, and the game is doomed. The is was a last-gasp. SOE will take the money it should be spending on developement and by advertisements on cartoon Network, limp through Christmas, and the game will die quietly in September with the launch of SWG II. And it won't be a Sony product, it will be Microsoft's first foray into the MMORPG world.

Star Wars by Microsoft, because you KNOW Bill's a fan....

How's THAT for a conspiracy theory.

  User Deleted
11/29/05 6:44:00 PM#182
 Only If Lucas Arts entrusted the Star Wars franchise to Microsoft or even a new start up company , Heck would still be playing the game right now ( and SOE would you!)
  troydavid

Novice Member

Joined: 1/31/04
Posts: 154

11/30/05 10:12:48 AM#183

 

 

Squidi is a spy that works for the damage control department at SOE.  Becareful and tread lightly.

  Tsotha-Lanti

Novice Member

Joined: 4/21/05
Posts: 8

Ubi sapientas ibi libertas

11/30/05 10:57:42 AM#184

I disagree with your score on the graphics subject. Graphics are nice, but it's a three years old engine and you can never set the detail to the maximum. And it also produces a lot of lag. Also, compared to other MMORPGs out there, it's going bye-bye in six months maximum.

Tsotha-Lanti

  Dracul

Novice Member

Joined: 11/30/05
Posts: 8

11/30/05 8:07:24 PM#185
All I can say is whoever gave this rating is a well watered plant!
  whiteknight4

Novice Member

Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 2

12/01/05 12:29:33 AM#186

the real problem is that their is no competion from another company.  so most people saying if you don't like it leave is bogus.  i want to play an star wars RPG the only other option is the KOTOR series and well there are 2 flaws in useing that apporach 1) you can only play those 2 games so many times before they get old & 2) there is no point in playing them on anything but easy since medium & hard just make all of the DC rolls impossible (i've tried i couldn't get out of a damn building cause i kept failing the security DC on the front door and their is limited ability to level there.

i love SWG and the new system is great for melee, i just wish i had earned my Jedi (i was halfway through the aurilia quest and got nothing for that effort) instead of it being handed to me and i now agree with others saying there are too damn many jedi (i refuse to wear my robes since everyone else has the same robes and since they are useless) and they shouldn't have released it until they had atleast enough content for the CL80 veterans to get to CL 90 in something less than 5 years of hard grinding.

/rant*rave off

  HyperPhi

Novice Member

Joined: 8/13/05
Posts: 9

12/01/05 5:50:40 AM#187

so after reading the review part of "fun"  how did it managed to get a score of 7 ??

This game at its current stage deserves a 3 at the most , its unplayable (keep in mind this is a subscription game also!)

and customer service sucks , not because NGE , they had suck since day 1 , always a scripted response and always make you log out and resolve your issue outside of game on a tech chat room that you must reach by pure luck,since obviously  your in game support tells you to call an 800 number that never gets picked up!

My advice stay away from this game and play JK2 or some other MMORPG

 

  tried4time

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Joined: 12/01/05
Posts: 10

12/01/05 12:32:19 PM#188

Very good articles!  I completely agree that only time will tell if SOE and LA have made a decision that will garner greater success, continued mediocrity, or complete failure.

However, as veteran player of SWG, it is painfully obvious to me that SOE and LA is not intrested in what I enjoy nor what they can do to keep my business.  I can only surmize that they are taking my love of Star Wars for granted and assume I and many others will continue to endure whatever they dish out.  In this case I'm afraid they have over-estimated my tolerance for the sake of the title.

In regards to continued empty promises, and delusions of grandure...well I think this quote fits pretty accurately  "Decieve me once, then shame on you!(CU) Decieve me twice, then shame on me!(NGE)".  This is not the first time SOE has done this to a community, and as long as people continue to tolerate such practices they will continue to do them.  You maybe enjoying the changes this time, but rest assured sooner or later they will gut what you like about it and replace it for the sake of new customers, it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN!

  MX13

Novice Member

Joined: 12/01/05
Posts: 2487

What in HELL is an Aluminum Falcon?!?!?!

12/01/05 3:33:55 PM#189

Here's a question for anyone at LA or SOE: Fine, you change the game completely, so why won't you give me my prepaid subscription back?

SOE & LA: You're a bunch of thieves. It's Deceptive Practices and I hope you enjoy the letters from the BBB.

To MMORPG: What do you think about them REFUSING to offer refunds? I've asked and they said no.

IMO: This is like LEasing a BMW for years, you go to trade it in, you sign a new lease, and when you go to pick up the car they give you a 3 year old Honda.

I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

In fact, forget the SWG!!!!



  Dana

Novice Member

Joined: 1/07/04
Posts: 2425

 
12/01/05 3:57:19 PM#190


Originally posted by MX13
Here's a question for anyone at LA or SOE: Fine, you change the game completely, so why won't you give me my prepaid subscription back?
SOE & LA: You're a bunch of thieves. It's Deceptive Practices and I hope you enjoy the letters from the BBB.
To MMORPG: What do you think about them REFUSING to offer refunds? I've asked and they said no.
IMO: This is like LEasing a BMW for years, you go to trade it in, you sign a new lease, and when you go to pick up the car they give you a 3 year old Honda.

Really, it's more akin to you watching a movie and not liking a plot twist half way through.

There's not much that can be done and as far as I know, legally they have no obligation to offer refunds (although they did to those who bought Obi-Wan under the old system).

Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  Burdan19

Novice Member

Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 2

12/01/05 4:18:43 PM#191


Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by MX13
Here's a question for anyone at LA or SOE: Fine, you change the game completely, so why won't you give me my prepaid subscription back?
SOE & LA: You're a bunch of thieves. It's Deceptive Practices and I hope you enjoy the letters from the BBB.
To MMORPG: What do you think about them REFUSING to offer refunds? I've asked and they said no.
IMO: This is like LEasing a BMW for years, you go to trade it in, you sign a new lease, and when you go to pick up the car they give you a 3 year old Honda.

Really, it's more akin to you watching a movie and not liking a plot twist half way through.

There's not much that can be done and as far as I know, legally they have no obligation to offer refunds (although they did to those who bought Obi-Wan under the old system).


Ok really i gotta say this. you think they ain't obligated to pay back refunds but they are for the ppl that bought the ToOW under the old system? yes i aggree those ppl are obligated to get refund. But what about the ones that pre-paid under the old system not knowing about this new system till like months after they pre-paid. Anyone that thinks they shouldn't give a refund on that is dumb and has a very low IQ!!!!

SOE betrayed their customers, it's not fair to any of their gamers to keep somethign like this secret till like 15days till they launch it. And it is definetly not fair for those that pre-paid under the old system not knowing about this.

IMO: I think they should give atleast partial refund but I think they should give full refund because they are the ones that messed up and ruined the life of their customers and were not upfront about what they wre going to do. They lied to us and that's what we deserve...

And for you thinking that pre-payers under the old system shouldn't get refund that's just makes you just as LOW as SOE even lower in my book and I think you need to live more and learn what truth is buddy.

SHould SOE refund Pre-payers under the old system?

Yes
no
(login to vote)
  Dana

Novice Member

Joined: 1/07/04
Posts: 2425

 
12/01/05 6:21:40 PM#192


Originally posted by Burdan19

Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by MX13
Here's a question for anyone at LA or SOE: Fine, you change the game completely, so why won't you give me my prepaid subscription back?
SOE & LA: You're a bunch of thieves. It's Deceptive Practices and I hope you enjoy the letters from the BBB.
To MMORPG: What do you think about them REFUSING to offer refunds? I've asked and they said no.
IMO: This is like LEasing a BMW for years, you go to trade it in, you sign a new lease, and when you go to pick up the car they give you a 3 year old Honda.

Really, it's more akin to you watching a movie and not liking a plot twist half way through.

There's not much that can be done and as far as I know, legally they have no obligation to offer refunds (although they did to those who bought Obi-Wan under the old system).


Ok really i gotta say this. you think they ain't obligated to pay back refunds but they are for the ppl that bought the ToOW under the old system? yes i aggree those ppl are obligated to get refund. But what about the ones that pre-paid under the old system not knowing about this new system till like months after they pre-paid. Anyone that thinks they shouldn't give a refund on that is dumb and has a very low IQ!!!!

SOE betrayed their customers, it's not fair to any of their gamers to keep somethign like this secret till like 15days till they launch it. And it is definetly not fair for those that pre-paid under the old system not knowing about this.

IMO: I think they should give atleast partial refund but I think they should give full refund because they are the ones that messed up and ruined the life of their customers and were not upfront about what they wre going to do. They lied to us and that's what we deserve...

And for you thinking that pre-payers under the old system shouldn't get refund that's just makes you just as LOW as SOE even lower in my book and I think you need to live more and learn what truth is buddy.


Let me be clear - I said "legally" they're not obligated to give refunds. However, they did offer SOME refunds. I didn't say they were obligated to. As to whether they should or not - that is a whole other can of worms.

Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  jobu680

Novice Member

Joined: 11/18/05
Posts: 4

12/01/05 9:03:36 PM#193

I'm glad an honest review came out on this finally.....not the SOE it's wonderful, veteran players loved it or my favorite test groups showed this to be more popular than the old version. Some other websites said similar things making me wonder if money is being passed under the table.

I liked the mustafar expansion and prepaid on my accounts. When they changed it to the NGE my wife and I tried it out and found no fun with our old characters but had some fun running the new missions. Still hate the NGE combat system and promptly applied for mustafar refund and tried to get my accounts prepaid cash back. Mustafar I'm getting my money back, but they told me to take it in the pooper on my prepaid's.

My wife and I feel lied to and totally distrust SOE/LA and plan to never play another SOE game ever again. If they do it to one game of their's .....why not another.

  Dana

Novice Member

Joined: 1/07/04
Posts: 2425

 
12/01/05 9:09:31 PM#194


Originally posted by jobu680
My wife and I feel lied to and totally distrust SOE/LA and plan to never play another SOE game ever again. If they do it to one game of their's .....why not another.

Again, I feel obligated to point out that LA, not SOE, develops and decides the direction of SWG.

Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  Gamerbear

Novice Member

Joined: 5/12/05
Posts: 7

12/01/05 9:47:14 PM#195

Originally posted by Lepidus


Originally posted by jobu680
My wife and I feel lied to and totally distrust SOE/LA and plan to never play another SOE game ever again. If they do it to one game of their's .....why not another.

Again, I feel obligated to point out that LA, not SOE, develops and decides the direction of SWG.


I almost feel bad for you, having followed these posts for a while and seeing you post that at least four times. I think most of us fully understand that the relationship between the companies. It does become very confusing though, as LA seldom comments on the game, at least in comparison to the posts SOE makes regarding the game. BTW, love the sight, it's become a daily stop for me for MMORPG news.

And good news! The best SWG guild in existence, my alma mater, is moving to DDO online when it opens :) Everyone is now asking for new graphics cards from St Nick this year now...

  Isiss

Novice Member

Joined: 11/30/05
Posts: 4

12/02/05 9:44:24 AM#196
This game totally sucks now. Do not buy it. I played for over 2 years and bought every crappy expansion, which I hardly used and spent over 800 bux on two accounts over rthe years. This is a total slap in the face in many many ways. Many playes such as some crafters, Jedi, Creature handlers, etc. have either been removed from the game or rendered useless. SOE/LA is pathetic, no other explanation. LA is so arrogant to think that they can make this survive. Just look at the reviews on Amazon and EB games before you play. These idiots will be shutting down SWG inside of 6 months. I just wish I had all of my time and money back, but then again I am thankful for the experience I had and the friends I met along the way. NGE will never work. It's an FPS that you have to pay 15 bux a month for. Who's gonna do that. Just buy KOTOR, the same game pretty much. It's just like every other LA peice of crap that we all buy just because it's "Star Warsy."
  okawie

Novice Member

Joined: 5/08/05
Posts: 11

12/02/05 1:02:16 PM#197

hahahahahaha
from what i just read they nerfed the game even more i will never go back i closed 3 accounst becuz of their so called combat upgrade that was in reality a downgrade now they are trying to fix what they ruined and ruining it even more
Rest in peace SWG

  beel

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/18/05
Posts: 46

12/02/05 1:39:05 PM#198
As I said in another post, it saddens me to see the game struggling so badly.  I think there is a lack of leadership, or perhaps too many people trying to make decisions and hair brained ideas get implemented.  The franchise is sucking wind trying to keep nose above water
beel Xfire Miniprofile
  Uproar

Novice Member

Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 286

I was once Tailrot, Uproar, Bandage, Thus(tin) Hammered, Rock, and so many more. Aye gamerest.

12/02/05 6:37:48 PM#199

[quote]don’t cast it off automatically just because it is something new.[/quote]

That statement shows that Casey has zero, zip, no idea why the customer base left -- or at least that they still refuse to state the facts publicly. 

There customers were lied to, mislead, and cheated out of years of promises, assurances, and direct statements to the contrary of their real efforts. 

Dishonest businesses do not retain customer loyality nor will such practices EVER bring back customers burned bad enough or one time too many.  Even if the NGE (or the version that actually runs one day) were the greatest SWG experience available in the world most of us that left this time will not be back.  Nor will I be back to any SOE gaming experience as this is one game too many for me personally.  I now consider their products like I consider outsourced labor and manufacturing -- anthema.  I'll pay more for something by someone who deals with me honestly.

Quit giving their lame company air time.

  Uproar

Novice Member

Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 286

I was once Tailrot, Uproar, Bandage, Thus(tin) Hammered, Rock, and so many more. Aye gamerest.

12/02/05 7:37:47 PM#200

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Again, I feel obligated to point out that LA, not SOE, develops and decides the direction of SWG.

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SOE sells the game -- period.  If SOE is willing to sell in the manner they are, then it is SOE at fault -- no one else.  They could choose to provide honest communication, they could choose to not do business with LA, I really don't care which anymore, but it remains their fault do not pass the buck off on anyone else (even if they deserve part of the blame).  Everyone ever in a partnership or on a team knows that each of them must accept personal responsibility for whatever the team does or does not do.

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