It sounds like a good game but im worried its gonna be the same old thing because it wont be twitch combat based which is what i was really hoping for. I wish i could get into beta so i could learn more. Thanks for the interview Dana and keep up the good work Richard.

The interview was great until the end when it was revealed that the focus of Tabula Rasa will be PVE.  It's Ok Richard, I know you're not perfect.  I still love you.

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Originally posted by Fifi
The interview was great until the end when it was revealed that the focus of Tabula Rasa will be PVE. It's Ok Richard, I know you're not perfect. I still love you.

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"PvE is definitely the focus of TR. We have a detailed and personal story arc that players will participate in that we hope harkens back to solo RPG’s. The difference and improvement being that in TR you can play with your friends!"

PVE is the main focus of the game, he doesn't say they won't have any pvp elements at all. Even though you are all on the same side, there still might be factions etc that have some kind of civil wars :)

Or why not a training ground where you battle out and duel other players. Anyway I would go with factions :D one is disciplinary with uniforms and officers and the sort, the other one alil more rebel like with funky hairdues and a more cyberpunk clothing. The two types of characters are shown on the screenshots pages on the official site, so we may have hope : )

They don't have to fight all of the time, but maybe some times per week its pvp events with story like: "Thats it! Those "#%¤"##" have gone to far! They don't respect our authoritahh!" and full war breaks out, with some kind of reward who kills mosts etc so you got something to strive for.

Anyway the interview was awesome and I really hope they go beta soon : ) This is the game Im looking most forward to play.

I have read a lot and followed this one pretty closley, being a huge Garriot fan and 6 year UO Vet I will always look at anything he does with interest.

I have seen the long E3 trailer and other stuff....

Im finding it REALLY hard to get excited at this stage. I certainly dont want to write it off so early but its just looking like soooooooooo much more of the same old same old....

So its got some differences in the combat, so its a sci fi setting, so the grafix are pretty good... but if the gameplay is based around what I saw in the E3 trailer, I just dont see anything new here... Without starting an argument or making stupid comments, it just strikes me as WoW meets Planetside and I have had my fill of both...

Im keeping a very open mind but I wil need to see something significantly different from what Im seeing right now to make me even want to Beta it...

We will see.

I dont think TR will be able to have a middle range success...50k-200k player base is prolly impossible for them to reach, it would prolly beat 300k or never exceed 30k...we will see.

I think the redirection to a more shooter based game is a good idea. I just couldn't get excited about another hardcore RPG. What's more, my wallet wouldn't let me afford another RPG subscription. I hope LB can pull it off. I'm looking for a new game; WoW is done and I need something to fill the void.

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Originally posted by Jadar
I think the redirection to a more shooter based game is a good idea. I just couldn't get excited about another hardcore RPG. What's more, my wallet wouldn't let me afford another RPG subscription. I hope LB can pull it off. I'm looking for a new game; WoW is done and I need something to fill the void.

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You guys got the wrong idea when you say it will be a "shootermmo", the game will only be fastpaced as a fps. All the rpg aspects will still be there, with advancement, stats and eq. Personal skill will not matter as much as these factors when you play. So dont you start spreading the rumor that this will be Cs: online or something ;P

I think taking the skill away from the player and handing it off to a dice roll is lame to be frank. we've been playing these "Dice roll"  games for far too long.

Basically youve remade Anarchy online and the expansion packs. WHy?

I  say look at for example EA's BF2 and that type of character freedom, and place it into Tabula Rasa and see what happens.

Games as of late keep missing the mark. People get bored because they feel no real connection with the world and character they are Paying theirs or whom evers hard earned money. Designers, i feel have to be  a god and create something,  their vision of a world with the understanding of choice.

The choice I'm speaking of is a humanistic choice.

Maybe its too much nintendo and not enough PC?

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Originally posted by Fifi

The interview was great until the end when it was revealed that the focus of Tabula Rasa will be PVE.  It's Ok Richard, I know you're not perfect.  I still love you.

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True that. To make it a real virtual world there has to be PvP involved or its just a kids game. Also

the world needs to be one huge world and some instanced zones not just sighn on and whatever he ment by (fun). I dont know if im going to try this game now ill probably try some other game thats coming out since I know this game wont give me the realistic feel as if im realy the character playing the game.

I agree with wardrop, your success has to come from your skills, not from random chance. Id realy love to see Planetside elements in TR - your personal skills determine how good you are. Planetside is a great game, but its pretty much limited by what you can do there. If TR manages to balance out Planetside FPS like and WoW RPG like styles, then I believe it can be a smashing hit.

In my opinion, the key to victory is properly balanced FPS style in RPG world. I will definitely keep my eye on this game.

Lets see... you want FPS combat, check... you want PvP, check... its called "Counterstrike" guys...

Seriously, what you people SHOULD be doing is bugging FPS developers to add character progression features into their games rather than trying to coerce a genre which at its heart is the exact opposite of FPS games to make a full U-turn. The required step would be SO much smaller from that direction...

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Originally posted by Jade6
Lets see... you want FPS combat, check... you want PvP, check... its called "Counterstrike" guys...
Seriously, what you people SHOULD be doing is bugging FPS developers to add character progression features into their games rather than trying to coerce a genre which at its heart is the exact opposite of FPS games to make a full U-turn. The required step would be SO much smaller from that direction...

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You missed RPG elements of TR. In fact, thats like half of the game, if not more. You just made a post ignoring half of the game...The very first question mentioned integration of RPG elements into FPS shooter. Which means a planetside-like structure with deeper RPG elements and character progression.

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Originally posted by Jade6

Lets see... you want FPS combat, check... you want PvP, check... its called "Counterstrike" guys...

Seriously, what you people SHOULD be doing is bugging FPS developers to add character progression features into their games rather than trying to coerce a genre which at its heart is the exact opposite of FPS games to make a full U-turn. The required step would be SO much smaller from that direction...

 

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Sure,  but mind you CS is an objective fps. If it was a MMOfps then it would be similar to a quest right.

understand though, CS was a free download and the game was good and challenging. another in that line was from Activision, Enemy Territory.  That one had a progressive system good enough to be takin a step further.

These things have been done over and over in mods by players.

Look at Battlefield2, more points more rank and  weapon unlocks.

Look, its coming soon. there is already one  in dev using the source engine.  And thats realtime not dice rolls.

Ask your self. What are you gonna play.

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Originally posted by Ugge85

So dont you start spreading the rumor that this will be Cs: online or something ;P

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So I'll get crucified for this but I am not a MMO guy. I dont believe in the leave town kill monsters ideal. I like my RTS and I love my FPS. Thing is I also yearn for long time goals. In, say, CS:S you fight you die you respawn. You win or you lose the round with nothing more than a reseting PsycoStats website to show what you have done. Now, EVEN if this game sucks, which I do not belive, at least it has a long term goal of winning, not shucks I died good round lets go agian. And besides, the sound editor worked on Starcraft. How cool is that. I am looking forward to the game and I wish to hell there was an open beta.

Now, let me refine what I said. I really hope someone responds because know one I know is into this, but WHILE I look forward to this game there are restrictions. Like, there has to be LOADS of unique-ability, know what I mean. the guns, the outfits, the races. If everyone is looking the same then thats...Just not cool. And also, this is an amazing concept, I want to log in, try to show up in a base, and get an error message. Yes I want an error message. To tell me that the base I want to spawn in has gotten DESTROYED. It has to be that interactive....Which is demanding alot. Please respond.

I dont anticipate that the TR gameworld would be so maleable. From the sound of it, you'll fight for control of strategic points and not much else. And then you lose those control points to the mobs. Really it sounds more like Planetside, except the opposition is AI and not other players.
There does not appear to be any sort of long term territory control and impact on the gameworld. Since the gameworlds conflict is AI the world must remain static, otherwise the players would actually win and thats the end of the game. So you "win" and "lose" over and over again, without ever touching the world itself.

You could sum up Planetside as a tugg of war that noone ever wins. You take a base, an hour later the oposition takes it back...on and on and on and on. Your side conqueres an entire continent, you come back the next day and the whole map is remade all over again. All your fighting must have just been for fun - because it sure didnt earn you anything.
Thats what I suspect TR is. Conquere a location "hurray for our side". The next day...conquere it yet again "hurray for our side...again...I guess...".
As long as its fun and you feel its worth the 15$ a month its ok. Just dont expect to feel as though your accomplishing anything or impacting the world in anyway.

As for a "static world" I mean that the devs have it planned out like a novel. Not just TR specificaly, but a lot of games. They know where they want it to go and will not lend any control of it to the players - the players would only mess up the story. So rather than actively making their own story or even participating in the story, the players are forced to sit on the side lines and wait and see what happens next. I say its "static" because the players actions are irrelevant. They are not given any real control, only a false sense of control.

They capture the base only so they can lose the base.

As far as FPS games go, one that many peopel seem to be looking forward to is Huxely. Its worth a look. But it doesnt realy seems fair to compare Hux and TR, ones a straight up FPS with some rpg tacked on, and the other is all RPG.