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Foundation - Asimov

Plenty of Storyline and a good amount of startup material.

Hyperion - Dan Simmons

I think you could pull off a good versus evil quite well and not a bad storyline.

All Original  gets my VOTE

The death of Imperator is sad but Sci-Fi in Rome.. hmmm catchy at first but I think after the ohh and ahhhs would have been another comparison fest..

To date all the major succesful and long lasting games have been original titles for the most part..

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Originally posted by Johnark
What's Asimov?  I still think Star Trek Online is the only savior for sci-fi MMORPGs!  If they don't screw up and just make it a Eve Online clone.  I hate Eve Online...

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hmm Whats Asimov  http://www.asimovonline.com/

ever heard of I, Robot  ?

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Originally posted by Johnark
What's Asimov?

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You are clearly not a fan of Sci-Fi literature.

If you are going to base something Sci-Fi on L. Ron Hubbard I would think you would want to use Battlefield Earth ( crap crap crap crap crap...sorry...bad Sci Fi ). Not his self-help series

As for someone NOT knowing who Isaac Asimov is all I can ask is....what MASSIVE rock have you been hiding under? I, Robot, Fantastic Voyage ( people shrunk in a ship and injected into a human body ), Robot Dreams. How about movies like Bicentennial Man which was based of a few of his works combined? Ever hear of the "Three Laws of Robotics"? All Asimov. He's a grandfather of modern Sci Fi in my eyes. Between him and Niven there's plenty of sci-fi universe to be had in gaming without ever touching Lucas or Roddenberry.

Personally, I think the Ringworld universe holds some promise for gaming.

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Originally posted by tastee

Foundation - Asimov

Plenty of Storyline and a good amount of startup material.

   One of my favorite sci-fi books. One of the first earliest ones I ever read. Only thing is, there is not much choice of species LOL!

Hyperion - Dan Simmons

  An absolutly incredible sci-fi book. The most recent one of the series released in 2004 I think. When I read the first book I had to force myself to not turn the pages too fast. One of the most fast paced, brainthumping, heart pounding, books ever written.

I think you could pull off a good versus evil quite well and not a bad storyline.

 Issac Asimov's books have a better chance of good and evil factions.

  Hyperion has no good or evil. It all depends on what side you are on. Next, every faction teams up to find the "meaning of life, the universe, and everything" heheh.

All Original  gets my VOTE

The death of Imperator is sad but Sci-Fi in Rome.. hmmm catchy at first but I think after the ohh and ahhhs would have been another comparison fest..

  I always had a gut feeling Imperator would die. But I stayed quite because deep down I hoped.

To date all the major succesful and long lasting games have been original titles for the most part..

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 The most successful and longest lasting MMORPGs are anyone 5 years or older. UO, EQ, AC, RS, and I think AS3 is past 5 years. AO, DAoC, EvE, are arriving at their 5 year mark. Special mention of Strive For Power. The oldest, and only, perma-death mmorpg. (It is roughly 3 years old.) It is more than just having an original title. It is the qualtiy game community that makes players continue playing 5 years and longer. The mmorpg becomes a social club of sorts. The question is how to keep players with the game to the 5 year mark? First impressions are everything....

  1. Have as flawless a release as possible. AO would easily have 2-3 times as many players as it currently has... IF it had not annoyed sooo many players with its bad launch. AO, WW2O, and HZ have managed to survive their bad launches. AC2 is the prime example of a bad launch killing a mmorpg. It lost 50% of all its  players 1 year after launching!!!

  2. Have unique features that no other game has. EQ is the best LEVEL  based game. DAoC has the best mass PvP battles. AO has PvP for landcontrol, plus the most unique buffing system ever done (plus a ton of other revolutionary features.). AC has incredible dungeons, zoneless gameworld, and is more skill based than level based (which is what really sets it apart from EQ). RS is just a fun little free game that never dies. It has sooo many nooks and cranies, and things to keep one occupied if one cannot afford to Pay to Play. AS3 is a higher version of RS. It has some intresting stuff. It is a fun little tiny, nitch, MMORPG which means the community is more close knit.

  3. Listen to your core players. Listen to your most loyal players. Like how EQ/EQ2 did when they flew round trip tickets ..... the leaders of the major EQ/EQ2 guilds out to SOE North America HQ for a power meeting, and discussion.

 Sooo..... original title does help as part of the ingrediants. But it is not the most needed, or most important ingrediant.

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Originally posted by Johnark
What's Asimov?  I still think Star Trek Online is the only savior for sci-fi MMORPGs!  If they don't screw up and just make it a Eve Online clone.  I hate Eve Online...

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 Immediatly go down to your local library (or major bookstore which is even better) and check out every book by Asimov in the order that he wrote them. You have a lot of catching up to do.

 Asimov was 1,0000000% responsible for your beloved Star Trek. (Lucele Ball, yes the lady who did "I Love Lucey" was the other 1,0000% responsible for Star Trek. If it were not for her, Star Trek would not exist. )  And the character called Data in Star Trek: TNG is a blatant rip-off of the character by Asimov called R. Daneel Olivaw in the book "Robot's of Dawn". Asimov wrote and published that book roughly 1 decade before the first ST TV show, and roughly 30 years before ST:TNG was first thought of.

 It was guys like Asimov who got guys like Gene Rodenberry, Lucas, Spielberg, John Carpenter, and others.... into Sci-Fi. If you do not catch up on Asimov, then you are not a sci-fi fan. Not even close. Not even a little.