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Originally posted by Blkcat

Again, I wonder why, if you like it so much, your here, instead of there?

Things that make you go "hum".

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   Then  "hum" some more.   I can read this forum in my work breaks, but not play the game. Now GUESS what I am doing in my work breaks :-) !  Office computers are not exactly gaming rigs and I THINK my employer would object (which is an electricity corp and not SOE :-)

And we do not instantly flame. In contrast to the 2000 "I hate it !" mails we have posted time and time again constructive posts (in the SWG part of this forum) to be successful post-CU. And if you look into this thread and others you will see harsh crticial remarks about SOE from us-pro-CU posters too ... but not a general flame, but specific points that need to be rebalanced.

And yes, we post in here to counter some of the "What a crappy game !" campaigns we have seen on this and other websites, which just intend to scare away new players which WILL have fun with SWG when joining an active community on an active server (and there are many such offers in the SWG section). We will NOT allow a few flamers to reign uncontested and give the game a bad name.

Have fun

Erillion

[quote]Originally posted by Blkcat
I seem to find it interesting how many of you Pro-CU players instantly flame anyone who seems even remotely negative towards it.

It was simply a "wonder", expressed by the fact that I typed in "wonder".

And what exactly does Travelocity.com have anything to do with Star Wars Galaxies? First off, William Shatner is a PAID spokesman for the company. They arent trying to begile anyone into believeing that he actually uses their services. However, the way the TV ads for SWG are running, it implies that these people are in fact players in the game. I just wondered how many of them are actually "players" and how many were paid for their performance?

If you like the CU so damn much, perhaps you should be in the game playing it, instead of on MMORPG.com flaming others for simply speaking their opinion.

Again, I wonder why, if you like it so much, your here, instead of there?

Things that make you go "hum".
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Instantly flamed? Give me a break, you have no idea what flamed is. Simply a wonder expression, ofcourse. Silly me, it was a totally innocent statement. How could I have not seen it before?!

Flame-(n.) A searing e-mail or newsgroup message in which the writer attacks another participant in overly harsh, and often personal, terms. Flames are an unfortunate, but inevitable, element of unmoderated conferences.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/f/flame.html

Oh, I think I'm quite aware of what a flame is, thank you very much.

Your post was overly harsh, and attempted to try to shame me into silence as well as attempted to call into question my intellegence based on your Travelocity comment.

Seeing as how my post was directed at no one in particular, and was simply musing about things, your response was unwarrented. Now if you wish to have an open discussion based around the merits and or flaws of the current game, leave the ad hoc personal attacks at home.

FYI, SWG was developed and is run by SOE, not LA.

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Known for its blockbuster franchises, EverQuest®, EverQuest® II and PlanetSide®, as well as for developing Star Wars Galaxies™: An Empire Divided™, SOE continues to redefine the business of online gaming and the creation of active player communities while introducing new genres on various entertainment platforms.

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http://www.sonyonline.com/corp/press_releases/01142005_SWG_Added_To_Station_Access.html

Lucas Arts owns the licence for Star Wars. However, all advertising for the game, all development, and all coding is done by SOE. Sony pays Lucas Arts for the right to use Star Wars content in their game. Lucas Arts retains creative control over the franchise, but has little to do with the day to day operations of the game or its content.

So no, I was not incorrect for wondering if SOE payed any of the people that appeared in their commercial.

I particularly enjoyed the article. There was plenty of info in it, even for folks like me who left SWG ages ago BECAUSE we disliked the combat system there. I may even try it out again just to see how the new cu works for my old char in-game.

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Originally posted by Blkcat

So no, I was not incorrect for wondering if SOE payed any of the people that appeared in their commercial.

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It was my understanding that these people got travel expenses paid.

And sorry, on my game box is the LucasArts Logo and its called a Lucasarts game there. SOE has developed it and runs it for LA, but only Lucas ultimately calls the shots  (which, as we have seen with Jedi craziness, is not exactly the best situation).

Have fun

Erillion

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Originally posted by tymothymiche

I particularly enjoyed the article. There was plenty of info in it, even for folks like me who left SWG ages ago BECAUSE we disliked the combat system there. I may even try it out again just to see how the new cu works for my old char in-game.

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You might find this article :

http://swvault.ign.com/View.php?view=DevNotes.Detail&id=60

also useful.

Have fun

Erillion

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Originally posted by Erillion

Originally posted by Blkcat
So no, I was not incorrect for wondering if SOE payed any of the people that appeared in their commercial.

It was my understanding that these people got travel expenses paid.
And sorry, on my game box is the LucasArts Logo and its called a Lucasarts game there. SOE has developed it and runs it for LA, but only Lucas ultimately calls the shots (which, as we have seen with Jedi craziness, is not exactly the best situation).
Have fun
Erillion

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Eril, try rereading what I posted. Just cause it has the LA logo, in no way means that Lucas has much if any control over the way the game runs. Lucas licences out the franchise to who ever is willing to pay him the most for it. Does SOE own Star Wars? No. Do they own SWG? Yeap, they sure do. Even if LA pulls the franchise from them, they still own the code. Lucas Arts does not own it, they do not manage it, they do not promote it. The only control that Lucas has over the game is content. Star Wars stuff.

As to what they got paid, how they got paid, or anything else, its speculation, on both our parts. Thats why I didnt post anything in particular. I dont know the details of their appearance and neither do you, unless you work for SoE. I simply wondered about it. Didnt say they did or didnt hire professional actors to appear in the spot. Just mused about it, seeing as how their experience differed so greatly from my own. Going to debate me the fact of if I enjoy the game or not now?

I have read this forum and what everyone has to say about the CU and there are a few who like it and a few who don't.

But for me the major point has been missed, with the new CU in plass SWG is simply not the game I originaly bought and wanted tp play, now before someone tells me that games change over time well guess what, I know that already.

Now I'm sure the CU will work for some people but for the large number of vet's it does not and it has nothing to do with not being god like, with the introduction of the new CU the powers that be destroyed the ability to craft and totaly messed up anyones chances to play a jedi.

When I play I enjoy both group and solo activetys but the CU was and is forceing players into a grouping situation wich meany people dislike, yes you can solo but not if you wish to progress.

This was a great game that has in my opion become a pale shadow of itself, now SOE has given people and the press many reasons for why thay have done what thay have but in the end it dont matter why, the bottom line is this is no longer the game that we paid hard cash for.

Lucas made a mistake insisting on the CU, yes I said Lucas as after all SOE only run this game for them and thay ultimatley call the shots.

Its is time people stop flameing each other cos one likes it and another dont, if you like it then good for you, have fun playing it but if you dont like it then do what I did, leave and play something else.

It does not matter wich way you travel, becuse there is only one journey

I don't like the CU.

It has changed the skill-based game I loved into a level-based game, which has made the playstyle less free. I am still playing, but not with as much enjoyment as I had before. I am now in a game similar to most other big MMO's, where the game rules tell we what I can and cannot do. No amount of buffs/equipment/tactics will let even a group of 8 low level players defeat a mob 10 levels higher than them. The artificial damage multiplier