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General Discussion  » Landmark Combat and PvP! [First Impressions]

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  MMOVet74

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OP  8/30/14 10:58:38 PM#1
  Rydeson

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8/31/14 6:34:52 AM#2
I'm speechless.. 
  cheyane

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8/31/14 6:57:43 AM#3
Looking at combat in Landmark means Everquest Next is not for me . These types of action games is out. Well one less game for me to follow.

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  kaludytk

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8/31/14 7:05:04 AM#4
Originally posted by Rydeson
I'm speechless.. 

i too am speechless........at how awful it looks.

  Azoth

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8/31/14 7:35:51 AM#5
Left click, right click and space bar... awesome gameplay !
  munsil42

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8/31/14 7:47:11 AM#6
Just was released, sky isn't falling down yet all you Doom & Gloomers.

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8/31/14 7:48:43 AM#7
I have to admit, this looks pretty terrible so far. This makes me sad :(
  Raxxo82

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8/31/14 7:49:38 AM#8
Looks like we might get a contestant for the "Worst actioncombat to date" award. It looks really bad to.. sad... :(

  Nitth

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8/31/14 7:59:13 AM#9

Why cant you just have fun with the combat?


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  Herase

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8/31/14 8:13:10 AM#10
Originally posted by Raxxo82
Looks like we might get a contestant for the "Worst actioncombat to date" award. It looks really bad to.. sad... :(

The Landmark was never really meant to be about combat anyway, so it was to be expected that the combat wouldn't blow minds.

 

This seems it might be what the very basic idea will be for Next, so yeah action combat, other than that no idea 

  Wizardry

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8/31/14 8:21:01 AM#11

The firing is far too fast and looks silly.The bow shooter fires and loads incredibly fast exactly like GW2 and it looks bad.

However i think pvp type combat always looks bad in rpg's like REAL bad.If the mobs force this same silliness of randomly running around in zig zags then the game will not succeed.It just looks so silly running and jumping it brings back the term bunny hopping.I bet that bow shooter doesn't really have ammo to load

I do see some "very limited" map design with z-axis running up the ramp.That map is extremely low poly about as simple as you can get,if in the real game we get the expected poor SOE optimization with graphic stuttering then this action aim combat will be bad.The Mage again looks like GW2 spamming rather than a realistic CHARGE effect,it  just looks silly spamming magic out of the staff.

Yes i know this is a very early look see but i get the feeling those super cheap looking textures with the damage effects will not be any better come the game.

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  DMKano

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8/31/14 8:27:18 AM#12
Originally posted by Nitth

Why cant you just have fun with the combat?

You can - I'm sure that current Landmark combat is fun to some.

I tried it and - it just feels crappy to me, yes I know that this is alpha combat - but I have to call it on how it is "now" - not what it *might* be a year from now.

Played PvP for a couple of hours - never went back

 

To me this combat is pretty much 100% proof that EQN is squarely aimed at the console market - SoE has no interest in appealing to EQ1/EQ2 players at all.

 

  DMKano

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8/31/14 8:33:26 AM#13
Originally posted by cheyane
Looking at combat in Landmark means Everquest Next is not for me . These types of action games is out. Well one less game for me to follow.

Here's my opinion:

The target audience - vast console market. 

It makes sense from a business perspective - SoE's current players are mostly all PC - with EQN they can tap into the console players and gain a whole new playerbase

This is why they have little interest at EQ1/EQ2 players at all - as EQN is a fundamentally different game

EQN is designed for controller play - it's an action game at heart - it will be pretty fun on a PS4 I'm sure, that's probably how I'll play it.

my 2c

 

  Mithrandolir

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8/31/14 8:37:05 AM#14

yeah, not my thing either. I wish it the best though!

 

  Enrif

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8/31/14 9:32:58 AM#15
Originally posted by Azoth
Left click, right click and space bar... awesome gameplay !

isn't that every Shooter ever made in a nutshell? 

But this is only the first iteration of the gameplay. later you will have up to 12 skills

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by cheyane
Looking at combat in Landmark means Everquest Next is not for me . These types of action games is out. Well one less game for me to follow.

Here's my opinion:

The target audience - vast console market. 

It makes sense from a business perspective - SoE's current players are mostly all PC - with EQN they can tap into the console players and gain a whole new playerbase

This is why they have little interest at EQ1/EQ2 players at all - as EQN is a fundamentally different game

EQN is designed for controller play - it's an action game at heart - it will be pretty fun on a PS4 I'm sure, that's probably how I'll play it.

my 2c

 

oh yeah its so much fun to play with a reticle on a console. but its not, atleast for me. Reticle based combat is always better for PC then any console. if it would be combat like GW2 then the console comment would have atleast some sense.

 

and using reticle combat is smart as the forgelight engine already supports that very good with thousand of players concurrent at a time. Something no other reticle based game can on a massive scale (64x64 is not massive)

 

  Edli

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8/31/14 9:40:31 AM#16
Graphically it looks like something out of 2005. Gameplay looks freaking terrible. Just aim and click really, that's all I saw.
  Azoth

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8/31/14 9:56:29 AM#17
Originally posted by Enrif
Originally posted by Azoth
Left click, right click and space bar... awesome gameplay !

isn't that every Shooter ever made in a nutshell? 

But this is only the first iteration of the gameplay. later you will have up to 12 skills

It does remind me a lot of quake tournament with all the bunny jumping

  buckeye

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8/31/14 10:07:03 AM#18

Looks like shit. Landmark/Next had such potential with the team behind it. What huge letdown from SOE.

  Varex12

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8/31/14 10:08:03 AM#19
Yikes, that looks terrible.  Gave me a headache after a couple of minutes.  Reminds me a bit of Darkfall, in both combat and graphics.  And that's not a compliment.
  TheHavok

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8/31/14 10:10:42 AM#20
Well, I definitely wasn't expecting a third person shooter type combat system for Everquest.  Despite the bad optimization, the poor feedback, the apparent unbalance, I still want to give it a shot.
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