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  SBFord

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OP  8/27/14 12:57:47 PM#1

I’m more confident at this point that Dragon Age: Inquisition’s multiplayer will be awesome than I am about the single player game. Inquisition seems to hit the right notes in terms of enhancing the series’ combat without overdoing it and stripping things away like Dragon Age II did, and this bodes well for a multiplayer component that focuses squarely on the game’s combat systems.

Read more of Michael Bitton's Why Dragon Age: Inquisition Co-Op Will Be Awesome.

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  AngryCujo

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8/27/14 1:18:06 PM#2

And to this article, I give you this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd13fE5WJ3c

Seems.... rather fitting.

 
  kabitoshin

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8/27/14 1:45:05 PM#3
Originally posted by AngryCujo

And to this article, I give you this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd13fE5WJ3c

Seems.... rather fitting.

 

Yeah I don't let myself get over hyped anymore, I tend to keep a reasonable outlook on new games to come. Destiny is the most over hyped game of the decade, and even though I enjoyed it, and had fun I'm not foaming out the mouth hyped about it. The last game I got so hyped over and ruined everything else for me was guild wars 2 cause of the amazing manifesto video. Even though I played it for months, and still have fun with it... it tought me not to overhype myself.

  Talmien

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8/27/14 2:01:53 PM#4
Originally posted by AngryCujo

And to this article, I give you this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd13fE5WJ3c

Seems.... rather fitting.

 

Its obvious that gaming magazines and websites overhype games before they're released, but this is the business model that the game industry itself has developed.

 

If you want access to info on games that are still in development, get demos, etc, so you can write an article that will draw readers / customers to your website or magazine, so you can then make advertising revenue, then those articles have to be positive. If you start being critical of many of the games being developed and start giving "bad press" then those developers are no longer going to give you access to info and demos to write your articles, and suddenly you'll have no content to attract readers with.

 

So honestly I think its the game development studios themselves that force the gaming press into this situation.

 
  iridescence

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8/27/14 2:21:10 PM#5
Originally posted by Talmien
 

So honestly I think its the game development studios themselves that force the gaming press into this situation.

 

Nothing forces them to do it other than the desire to make money. The fact that enough of these people are willing to write these marketing fluff pieces so publishers can shut out the few who won't is pretty sad. Very few games writers should even refer to themselves as journalists. At best they are paid bloggers. The few who approach respectable journalism are pretty easy to spot.

 

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

8/27/14 2:26:54 PM#6
Looks fun, sounds good. Proven to do it right with ME3... definitely a value add for a purchase I was already going to make. 

Now Playing: Destiny, WoW

  MikeB

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8/27/14 2:50:55 PM#7
Originally posted by AngryCujo

And to this article, I give you this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd13fE5WJ3c

Seems.... rather fitting.

Does it? I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to be legitimately excited for something in my own column, simply because I'm a member of the press and some press have acted irresponsibly? This is my column, which I've written for something like five years now, where I share my opinion with you all. If you aren't interested in my opinion, don't read my column. No one is forcing you.

 

Frankly, I don't have an agenda and I don't care for ridiculous overhype. If it looks good to me, I'll tell you why. If it doesn't, I'll also tell you why. Heck, I called out the hype on Destiny in my best/worst E3 article. I also found myself completely baffled at the press excitement over Titanfall. It looked like complete shit to me and I'm not surprised it fell off as quickly as it did. Just because some writers are irresponsible with the voice they've been given doesn't mean it should ruin things for the rest of us, so please don't come in here with your video and dismiss the column because you think it fits neatly with whatever theory you have or agree with about games media.

 

I loved Mass Effect 3 multiplayer and felt BioWare did a great job of it and wanted to explain why, because of the quality of that product, that I have high hopes for Inquisition's multiplayer. I could be completely wrong and eat crow for it later, but that's a risk I'm willing to take here, because I feel there is a good reason to be positive about Inquisition's multiplayer component and wanted to explain why.

 

I've seen some kneejerk reactions to this news from DA fans and even personal friends and I wanted to allay some of those concerns in my column this week. It's that simple. All of my points are clearly explained in the column. It's not breathless hype pulled out of the ether. If what I've said make senses to you and you agree, that's great. If you disagree, you're invited to share your thoughts on why.  Tacking on multiplayer is a very common practice these days and it's usually crap, which is (understandably) why gamers react the way they do when they hear multiplayer is being added to a typically singleplayer game series. Normally, I would feel the same way, but since BW did such a bang up job on their ME3 MP and they're doing a lot of the same things here, I felt it was a good opportunity to say, "Hey! Hold on. This could actually be good!"

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
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  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

8/27/14 2:51:45 PM#8
wait and see.

  thamighty213

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8/27/14 3:35:10 PM#9

If it's half as much fun and longevity as ME3's MP then it will truly be awesome,  I expected ME3 MP to be some tacked on cash grab and to my surprise it wasn't and I found myself putting 100s of hours into it it was just so much fun.

 

I'm excited overall for DAI and this news is just that added cherry on top.

  JeroKane

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8/27/14 4:15:57 PM#10
Originally posted by MikeB
 

 

Frankly, I don't have an agenda and I don't care for ridiculous overhype. If it looks good to me, I'll tell you why. If it doesn't, I'll also tell you why. Heck, I called out the hype on Destiny in my best/worst E3 article. I also found myself completely baffled at the press excitement over Titanfall. It looked like complete shit to me and I'm not surprised it fell off as quickly as it did. Just because some writers are irresponsible with the voice they've been given doesn't mean it should ruin things for the rest of us, so please don't come in here with your video and dismiss the column because you think it fits neatly with whatever theory you have or agree with about games media.

 

 I have a very bad feeling about Destiny. I think it's going to fail real hard and goes the way of Titanfall.

Sure People will have a blast in the first weeks, but after that it will die down as quick as it came, when the repetition starts kicking in and People find out that all they have to play on is 4 maps and some PVP modes.

And what I have so far seen and heard about the boss fights, ain't giving me any thrills either. Just insane HP pools that take ages to burn down. Nothing to be excited about.

That's why I have (and With great difficulty) supressed myself from pre-ordering Destiny.

I am going to take a wait and see approach on that one and see how it lands with the people and how much content we really get.

But the fact that they already have 2 DLC's lined up and ready for later this year.... rubs me in the wrong way as well. Especially when it game really does turn out to be short on content. Then it's nothing but yet another blatant overhyped cash grab. /facepalm

  AngryCujo

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8/27/14 4:33:46 PM#11

Hit a major game site, IGN, GameSpot, Game Informer... so on.

The "hype machine" is real for DA:I Multi-player articles about how gamers should be super excited.

So yes, MikeB, Totalbiscuit's video is 100% fitting here and on all those other sites. "A bare faced hype piece."

 
 
  Segun777

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8/27/14 4:49:24 PM#12
Amen MikeB. Preach it. So tired of whiny gamers with their "too cool for school" attitude. ME3 had one of the most underappreciated multiplayer experiences. And just like now gamers cryed foul when BioWare announced it. If gaming has a hype train than it most certainly has a train for the whiners and complainers.
  alkarionlog

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8/27/14 5:18:17 PM#13
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by AngryCujo

And to this article, I give you this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd13fE5WJ3c

Seems.... rather fitting.

Does it? I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to be legitimately excited for something in my own column, simply because I'm a member of the press and some press have acted irresponsibly? This is my column, which I've written for something like five years now, where I share my opinion with you all. If you aren't interested in my opinion, don't read my column. No one is forcing you.

 

Frankly, I don't have an agenda and I don't care for ridiculous overhype. If it looks good to me, I'll tell you why. If it doesn't, I'll also tell you why. Heck, I called out the hype on Destiny in my best/worst E3 article. I also found myself completely baffled at the press excitement over Titanfall. It looked like complete shit to me and I'm not surprised it fell off as quickly as it did. Just because some writers are irresponsible with the voice they've been given doesn't mean it should ruin things for the rest of us, so please don't come in here with your video and dismiss the column because you think it fits neatly with whatever theory you have or agree with about games media.

 

I loved Mass Effect 3 multiplayer and felt BioWare did a great job of it and wanted to explain why, because of the quality of that product, that I have high hopes for Inquisition's multiplayer. I could be completely wrong and eat crow for it later, but that's a risk I'm willing to take here, because I feel there is a good reason to be positive about Inquisition's multiplayer component and wanted to explain why.

 

I've seen some kneejerk reactions to this news from DA fans and even personal friends and I wanted to allay some of those concerns in my column this week. It's that simple. All of my points are clearly explained in the column. It's not breathless hype pulled out of the ether. If what I've said make senses to you and you agree, that's great. If you disagree, you're invited to share your thoughts on why.  Tacking on multiplayer is a very common practice these days and it's usually crap, which is (understandably) why gamers react the way they do when they hear multiplayer is being added to a typically singleplayer game series. Normally, I would feel the same way, but since BW did such a bang up job on their ME3 MP and they're doing a lot of the same things here, I felt it was a good opportunity to say, "Hey! Hold on. This could actually be good!"

some? the whole media is manipulative to say the least,

 

and from the video alone I don't see it as a dragon age, I get a more looks like ME with spells and medieval weapons, and for taht alone turned me down a lot, really bioware golden age is long gone and there is nothing on then.

 

on the good side, they make me save some money for a real good game, because I think I will pass this game, the last chance chance they had to make a good game, and they make a generic one like the last 3 games they did(ME2.ME3, DA2) I cared to play anyway

FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.

  Everket

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8/27/14 5:22:20 PM#14
Stupid stupid hype piece, it does none of us any good. Wait for the feckin game to be released will ya and do whats BEST for the consumer.
  Darkcrystal

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8/27/14 5:44:00 PM#15
Originally posted by kabitoshin
Originally posted by AngryCujo

And to this article, I give you this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd13fE5WJ3c

Seems.... rather fitting.

 

Yeah I don't let myself get over hyped anymore, I tend to keep a reasonable outlook on new games to come. Destiny is the most over hyped game of the decade, and even though I enjoyed it, and had fun I'm not foaming out the mouth hyped about it. The last game I got so hyped over and ruined everything else for me was guild wars 2 cause of the amazing manifesto video. Even though I played it for months, and still have fun with it... it tought me not to overhype myself.

I agree nor do I , and I'm in the industry.. lol.  I have seen to many games hype them up and most are never that good. Destiny I was looking forward and thought it was going to be amazing, I played the beta and was slightly happy. I'm still buying it, but that's because I hope there is more to it than I seen.

  DeserttFoxx

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8/27/14 5:57:15 PM#16

Why does dragon age need multiplayer?

 

Please.. explain.

 

Why cant you jackasses just focus on making a great single player rpg, hell even an episodic rpg that you can continuously expand. Instead i get a single player game with multiplayer elements tacked on.

 

This wont add to the game the way grand theft auto multplayer did, this will simply make the over all game worst.

 

Nobody bought mass effect for its shitty multiplayer, nobody is buying this for its multiplayer. get your shit together bioware.

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  Arglebargle

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8/27/14 6:22:17 PM#17

I really do not like single player content that is gated by multiplayer requirements.  And this sort of thing often changes the game from 'buy on launch' to 'wait for the big sale'.

 

Hopefully Bioware has crunched the numbers and found that this model brings in more money in the aggregate, because it's less likely to do so with me.

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  iridescence

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8/27/14 7:15:31 PM#18
Originally posted by Arglebargle

I really do not like single player content that is gated by multiplayer requirements.  And this sort of thing often changes the game from 'buy on launch' to 'wait for the big sale'.

 

 

Is that the case here? I thought it wasn't? That would make the game no-buy for me as well. Optional multiplayer is fine but I don't want to be forced to play it.

 

  MikeB

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8/27/14 7:23:03 PM#19
Originally posted by iridescence
Originally posted by Arglebargle

I really do not like single player content that is gated by multiplayer requirements.  And this sort of thing often changes the game from 'buy on launch' to 'wait for the big sale'.

 

 

Is that the case here? I thought it wasn't? That would make the game no-buy for me as well. Optional multiplayer is fine but I don't want to be forced to play it.

 

It's not the case. Doesn't affect SP at all.

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  Anireth

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Joined: 1/28/05
Posts: 493

8/27/14 7:26:48 PM#20
Didn't really the actual article or the comments, but TotalBiscuit cirtiicing media is kinda stupid. He is part of it, and might be even less independent than most gaming news sites. Some Youtubers even admitted on getting freebies from companies in turn for promoting their products (games).

I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high
And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll
Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde
And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore

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