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  zanfire

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Joined: 11/19/06
Posts: 787

 
OP  8/25/14 4:40:18 PM#1

The fact that they take a long time to build, are used for SO much and they designed the game to pretty much get you to spend money to get more back constantly is just a big negative in my book. 

Every piece of gear needs to be identified, every bag with some silver uses it, every time you do anything thats pretty much not hitting things uses it, far faster than you get it back. I can see this getting worse later on in the game when you want to do a lot of farm work or gathering at high levels. I get they need to make money and the games decent so it sucks to see they are doing something that is pretty well built into the system to make money.

I still find it funny games feel like they need to do this when there are games out there that make so much and restrict so little, a prefect example coming from the MOBA genre with game like LOL and DOTA2 which at most sells skins and they seem to be raking in the cash. If your game is good you would not need to have crap like this, simple things like skins, character changes, maybe bag slots or very minor things like those would sell reguardless.

Now to hope and pray EQN is good and does not do this kind of crap (though my faith in that game keeps dwindling)

  xenorace

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Joined: 7/06/08
Posts: 176

8/25/14 4:56:44 PM#2

Players that are die hard over AA will give you a ton of pros to this labor system, but after hearing most I still cannot stay on board with the system. If it was just used for harvesting nodes I could probably live with it, but it's used for to many aspects of the game.

I guess the reason I have been so active as of late on this forum section is I know the game has potential and there are just a few areas that a portion of us would like changed or removed to reach a broader audience, not just the die hard. This is not the Asian market. There are obvious game developed decisions that feel like it's made for a different audience. Waving a hand and dismissing a portion of the Western market for expecting certain mechanics to be different or not present should not happen.

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  PaRoXiTiC

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Joined: 3/11/08
Posts: 501

8/25/14 5:00:27 PM#3
I don't know anything about the game because it never caught my attention or interest, but it sounds like you guys just want instant gratification instead of having to work for something. That is exactly the problem with this genre these days.
  jesteralways

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 616

8/25/14 5:10:07 PM#4
Originally posted by zanfire

The fact that they take a long time to build, are used for SO much and they designed the game to pretty much get you to spend money to get more back constantly is just a big negative in my book. 

Every piece of gear needs to be identified, every bag with some silver uses it, every time you do anything thats pretty much not hitting things uses it, far faster than you get it back. I can see this getting worse later on in the game when you want to do a lot of farm work or gathering at high levels. I get they need to make money and the games decent so it sucks to see they are doing something that is pretty well built into the system to make money.

I still find it funny games feel like they need to do this when there are games out there that make so much and restrict so little, a prefect example coming from the MOBA genre with game like LOL and DOTA2 which at most sells skins and they seem to be raking in the cash. If your game is good you would not need to have crap like this, simple things like skins, character changes, maybe bag slots or very minor things like those would sell reguardless.

Now to hope and pray EQN is good and does not do this kind of crap (though my faith in that game keeps dwindling)

AA is not MOBA, it is mmorpg. Are you sure you will want to subscribe to a mmorpg that only allows you to buy some exclusive pretty costume but no other benefit for your subscription? AA is designed to be a subscription game, in fact it was subscription only game until xlgames decided to open a free to play server just to see what happens and people in that server started spending shit load of money to buy labor pots and also the game that was very niche became quite popular with the f2p server. currently in korea they only have f2p server which has no lp regen and the only way to get back lp is to wait for weekly reset or buy LP pots, In trion's version f2p at least gets 1 LP regen per 5 min. so before you start complaining you should go to a church or any other religious place you visit and pray for trion's continuous success so that AA don't fall into companies like PWE or Aeria who will most definitely copy-paste the korean payment model.   

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  xenorace

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/06/08
Posts: 176

8/25/14 5:18:55 PM#5
Originally posted by jesteralways
Originally posted by zanfire

The fact that they take a long time to build, are used for SO much and they designed the game to pretty much get you to spend money to get more back constantly is just a big negative in my book. 

Every piece of gear needs to be identified, every bag with some silver uses it, every time you do anything thats pretty much not hitting things uses it, far faster than you get it back. I can see this getting worse later on in the game when you want to do a lot of farm work or gathering at high levels. I get they need to make money and the games decent so it sucks to see they are doing something that is pretty well built into the system to make money.

I still find it funny games feel like they need to do this when there are games out there that make so much and restrict so little, a prefect example coming from the MOBA genre with game like LOL and DOTA2 which at most sells skins and they seem to be raking in the cash. If your game is good you would not need to have crap like this, simple things like skins, character changes, maybe bag slots or very minor things like those would sell reguardless.

Now to hope and pray EQN is good and does not do this kind of crap (though my faith in that game keeps dwindling)

AA is not MOBA, it is mmorpg. Are you sure you will want to subscribe to a mmorpg that only allows you to buy some exclusive pretty costume but no other benefit for your subscription? AA is designed to be a subscription game, in fact it was subscription only game until xlgames decided to open a free to play server just to see what happens and people in that server started spending shit load of money to buy labor pots and also the game that was very niche became quite popular with the f2p server. currently in korea they only have f2p server which has no lp regen and the only way to get back lp is to wait for weekly reset or buy LP pots, In trion's version f2p at least gets 1 LP regen per 5 min. so before you start complaining you should go to a church or any other religious place you visit and pray for trion's continuous success so that AA don't fall into companies like PWE or Aeria who will most definitely copy-paste the korean payment model.   

In the hands of PWE or Aeria, lets also put Gpotato in there too, the game would crash and burn the Western market. There are a lot of games that make money off of skins alone. There is no need for the LP pots. Players will spend money on skins and mounts. Also that said I did hear something about Trion doing away with needing LP to open bags with gear in them. But that's just what I heard.

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  flizzer

Elite Member

Joined: 11/10/12
Posts: 1236

8/25/14 5:26:55 PM#6
The Labor system is giving me pause also I cant deny; however, there so many amazing features in this game I will have to give it a try once it launches.  Are labor pts an issue even with patron status or sub?   There will be labor pots in the cash shop.  We will still have to be buying these pots with patron status?  I think at that point I would be turned off to the game.  Sub fine, but if even more is required from me as the player then I would dismiss the game at that point.  
  jesteralways

Elite Member

Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 616

8/25/14 5:31:51 PM#7
Originally posted by xenorace
Originally posted by jesteralways
Originally posted by zanfire

The fact that they take a long time to build, are used for SO much and they designed the game to pretty much get you to spend money to get more back constantly is just a big negative in my book. 

Every piece of gear needs to be identified, every bag with some silver uses it, every time you do anything thats pretty much not hitting things uses it, far faster than you get it back. I can see this getting worse later on in the game when you want to do a lot of farm work or gathering at high levels. I get they need to make money and the games decent so it sucks to see they are doing something that is pretty well built into the system to make money.

I still find it funny games feel like they need to do this when there are games out there that make so much and restrict so little, a prefect example coming from the MOBA genre with game like LOL and DOTA2 which at most sells skins and they seem to be raking in the cash. If your game is good you would not need to have crap like this, simple things like skins, character changes, maybe bag slots or very minor things like those would sell reguardless.

Now to hope and pray EQN is good and does not do this kind of crap (though my faith in that game keeps dwindling)

AA is not MOBA, it is mmorpg. Are you sure you will want to subscribe to a mmorpg that only allows you to buy some exclusive pretty costume but no other benefit for your subscription? AA is designed to be a subscription game, in fact it was subscription only game until xlgames decided to open a free to play server just to see what happens and people in that server started spending shit load of money to buy labor pots and also the game that was very niche became quite popular with the f2p server. currently in korea they only have f2p server which has no lp regen and the only way to get back lp is to wait for weekly reset or buy LP pots, In trion's version f2p at least gets 1 LP regen per 5 min. so before you start complaining you should go to a church or any other religious place you visit and pray for trion's continuous success so that AA don't fall into companies like PWE or Aeria who will most definitely copy-paste the korean payment model.   

In the hands of PWE or Aeria, lets also put Gpotato in there too, the game would crash and burn the Western market. There are a lot of games that make money off of skins alone. There is no need for the LP pots. Players will spend money on skins and mounts. Also that said I did hear something about Trion doing away with needing LP to open bags with gear in them. But that's just what I heard.

if you have any idea about PWE or AERIA or gpotato(dead now, bought off by webzen) then you would never say AA would crush and burn western market under their publication. do you know how many games PWE or AERIA release every year on western market that becomes dead in 6 months? AA would be the same.

And please give the names of the free2play AAA quality mmorpg that lives only by selling skins and mounts. and how many players spend money on just skins and mounts in those games? 100K? 200K? a million?

 No there is no "need" for LP pots but why would a sensible business manager not make money off of something that will make him millions in a month?

And let's drop all of the points above, answer this : will you subscribe(pay 15$ a month) to a mmorpg which only allows subscribers to buy some pretty costume as a subscription perk but gives no other benefits and not only that; subscribers are treated same way as someone who never pays a single buck? 

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  adderVXI

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Joined: 1/08/05
Posts: 626

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8/25/14 5:35:11 PM#8
How many of these posts must we hear? I mean really??

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  jesteralways

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 616

8/25/14 5:35:21 PM#9
Originally posted by flizzer
The Labor system is giving me pause also I cant deny; however, there so many amazing features in this game I will have to give it a try once it launches.  Are labor pts an issue even with patron status or sub?   There will be labor pots in the cash shop.  We will still have to be buying these pots with patron status?  I think at that point I would be turned off to the game.  Sub fine, but if even more is required from me as the player then I would dismiss the game at that point.  

Patrons will have 5LP regen per 5 min while f2p will have 1 per 5min. no, you don't "need" to buy LP pots as patron unless you "want" to buy them to take advantage of the cash shop convenience.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Dancwith

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Joined: 1/17/14
Posts: 15

8/25/14 5:35:22 PM#10

I have almost 200 hrs through all 4 of the CB events.  I didn't play on 4 simply because I don't want to deal with the labor system.  Don't get me wrong, it does have its good points, but i think the penalties for the F2P player and even for those who don't invest heavilly into Labor Pots are such that it will essentially drive players away.  The world is large, the things you can do revolve around crafting and exploring on a large basis.  Crafting requires RIDICULOUS amounts of Labor per piece and honestly, i don't think that is going to change.  Housing requires as big an investment.  You spend labor for essentially everything.  

Now the fanboi's will have an argument to keep the system that involves "Get a guild, world pvp! rawr" but in the end, i think it will be you and your guild running around by yourselves killing the random dude that happens to log in for nostalgia.

With 95% of the game requiring labor to progress I can't honestly invest in something that I really believe will be a ghost town.

  Mithrandolir

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8/25/14 5:38:12 PM#11
Originally posted by flizzer
The Labor system is giving me pause also I cant deny; however, there so many amazing features in this game I will have to give it a try once it launches.  Are labor pts an issue even with patron status or sub?   There will be labor pots in the cash shop.  We will still have to be buying these pots with patron status?  I think at that point I would be turned off to the game.  Sub fine, but if even more is required from me as the player then I would dismiss the game at that point.  

I played the Alpha fairly casually ( 3-4 hours per day) over this past weekend. I never even came close to dropping below 3500 LP's and for most of the time I was above 4k. The offline regen suits me fine. If you play a lot or are a hardcore crafter, you might run into issues but I will leave that for somebody else with more hardcore experience to answer. 

I also saw Trion post that XL was considering removing the need for LP to identify quest rewards, which should help quite a bit for F2P peeps.

 

 

  jesteralways

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Joined: 3/17/13
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8/25/14 5:42:38 PM#12
Originally posted by Dancwith

I have almost 200 hrs through all 4 of the CB events.  I didn't play on 4 simply because I don't want to deal with the labor system.  Don't get me wrong, it does have its good points, but i think the penalties for the F2P player and even for those who don't invest heavilly into Labor Pots are such that it will essentially drive players away.  The world is large, the things you can do revolve around crafting and exploring on a large basis.  Crafting requires RIDICULOUS amounts of Labor per piece and honestly, i don't think that is going to change.  Housing requires as big an investment.  You spend labor for essentially everything.  

Now the fanboi's will have an argument to keep the system that involves "Get a guild, world pvp! rawr" but in the end, i think it will be you and your guild running around by yourselves killing the random dude that happens to log in for nostalgia.

With 95% of the game requiring labor to progress I can't honestly invest in something that I really believe will be a ghost town.

Perhaps you will like to play the original korean version of the game? you know in korea players are perfectly happy to play their pay2win AA and keeping it lively at the same time. It appears to me that western market is filled with people who wants everything for free and don't want to spend a dime on a game which actually brings what the players "want" on table. 

1. i want a open world, no phasing, no instancing.

2. i want meaningful owpvp

3. i want player driven economy

4. i want meaningful crafting

5. i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill

6. i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.

7. i want all of those above for free of cost, i don't wanna pay you  a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.

Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players. 

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  botrytis

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8/25/14 5:48:05 PM#13
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by flizzer
The Labor system is giving me pause also I cant deny; however, there so many amazing features in this game I will have to give it a try once it launches.  Are labor pts an issue even with patron status or sub?   There will be labor pots in the cash shop.  We will still have to be buying these pots with patron status?  I think at that point I would be turned off to the game.  Sub fine, but if even more is required from me as the player then I would dismiss the game at that point.  

I played the Alpha fairly casually ( 3-4 hours per day) over this past weekend. I never even came close to dropping below 3500 LP's and for most of the time I was above 4k. The offline regen suits me fine. If you play a lot or are a hardcore crafter, you might run into issues but I will leave that for somebody else with more hardcore experience to answer. 

I also saw Trion post that XL was considering removing the need for LP to identify quest rewards, which should help quite a bit for F2P peeps.

 

 

As it is, the F2P peeps should just ignore this title. What you PAY INTO IT, YOU GET OUT, not what you play into it. This one is all about P2W. Then with the F2P people not being able to own land or farm (on your own land - you can in a communal farm) - it is ridiculous.

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  Mr.SeriousGuy

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8/25/14 5:51:48 PM#14

the labor system is there for 2 reasons 

 

1) to give those that pay into the system a advantage in gathering resources and crafting as if being a land owner and being able to place scarecrows wasn't enough 

 

2) to allow paying members to steal all they want but slow down any F2P player so they can't steal much

 

but in 4-5 months the game will probably have fewer playing than when it goes live . global pvp in NA fails and global pvp with factions only works when people in the same faction can't kill each other but in AA its as simple as ctrl+f so the labor system wont matter to much long term . i mean hell you dont even need a boat to make it to the other continents . so the guys wandering the sea looking for trouble will only find noobs in row boats and get bored with the game and they are the ones who want global pvp even within the same faction the most 

  LacedOpium

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8/25/14 5:51:52 PM#15

 

Yay, we really needed another one of these "I want to play for free" threads.  Listen, if you want to play without restrictions ...  Subscribe! It really is that simple.  Stop being a cheapskate and support the company that is bringing you quality entertainment.  It's obviously worthwhile entertainment or else we wouldn't be having dozens of threads talking about the same thing over and over again.  Pay for it the entertainment already.  It all boils down to pennies to the day.  If you don't want to pay for the entertainment, then don't play.  Whatever you decide, please stop it with these entitlement threads already. 

Prettying-up wrong by dressing it up as opinion does not negate the fact that it is still wrong.

  Makidian

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Posts: 204

8/25/14 5:56:57 PM#16
Originally posted by LacedOpium

 

Yay, we really needed another one of these "I want to play for free" threads.  Listen, if you want to play without restrictions ...  Subscribe! It really is that simple.  Stop being a cheapskate and support the company that is bringing you quality entertainment.  It's obviously worthwhile entertainment or else we wouldn't be having dozens of threads talking about the same thing over and over again.  Pay for it the entertainment already.  It all boils down to pennies to the day.  If you don't want to pay for the entertainment, then don't play.  Whatever you decide, please stop it with these entitlement threads already. 

Yes !

  deaths185

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Posts: 3

8/25/14 5:57:55 PM#17
I think the main reason people{me} hate the labor point system is becasue it makes u feel like u have some sort of restriction and just knowing that there is a restriction when playing. I like to play an mmo knowing that i have nothing holding me back and i can play at my free will and pay for items on the cash shop or pay a membership if i desire. now some of you are gunna say u dont have anything holding back all u have to do is wait.... and here comes my point why should we have to wait to play a game if i buy patron status why should i still be limited under this stupid system. if im going to pay for anything in this game it only seems fair to get the item and not have to wait for it to regen. its like going burger king and buying a soda and only getting a cup and u have to wait to fill it and refill every 10min's that your there.... i understand the f2p players having a limit but if u buy patron status this limit should be removed. it only seems like a scheme made by this company to give them an excuse to not have to pump out content as fast becasue they are either to slow to make content for players to keep playing or they are not very creative to create a game that can really hold the players attention. i give this game a 1/10 for crappy  service.
  botrytis

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8/25/14 5:58:00 PM#18
Then they shouldn't call the game a FREE TO PLAY Game. Call it as it is - a sub game CS cash grab.

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
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  Hanthos

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Joined: 6/17/13
Posts: 228

PROUD P2P Elitist...

8/25/14 6:06:13 PM#19
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by flizzer
The Labor system is giving me pause also I cant deny; however, there so many amazing features in this game I will have to give it a try once it launches.  Are labor pts an issue even with patron status or sub?   There will be labor pots in the cash shop.  We will still have to be buying these pots with patron status?  I think at that point I would be turned off to the game.  Sub fine, but if even more is required from me as the player then I would dismiss the game at that point.  

I played the Alpha fairly casually ( 3-4 hours per day) over this past weekend. I never even came close to dropping below 3500 LP's and for most of the time I was above 4k. The offline regen suits me fine. If you play a lot or are a hardcore crafter, you might run into issues but I will leave that for somebody else with more hardcore experience to answer. 

I also saw Trion post that XL was considering removing the need for LP to identify quest rewards, which should help quite a bit for F2P peeps.

 

 

As it is, the F2P peeps should just ignore this title. What you PAY INTO IT, YOU GET OUT, not what you play into it. This one is all about P2W. Then with the F2P people not being able to own land or farm (on your own land - you can in a communal farm) - it is ridiculous.

And hopefully they will. Calling it P2W is laughable however. At some point, you gave to realize that no matter what label someone puts on it, you have to cough up if you want more than scraps. Welcome to life...;)

  LacedOpium

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8/25/14 6:06:32 PM#20
Originally posted by botrytis
Then they shouldn't call the game a FREE TO PLAY Game. Call it as it is - a sub game CS cash grab.

 

Can you play the game without paying?  Yes you can.  It is,therefore, a free to play game.  Are those that choose to play for free saddled with restrictions?  Yes they are.  That does not negate the fact that it is free to play.  It is free to play ... with restrictions!  If you don't want to be inconvenienced with restrictions then you must subscribe.  Not that difficult really.

Prettying-up wrong by dressing it up as opinion does not negate the fact that it is still wrong.

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