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Star Citizen 

General Discussion  » Another $90 Ship. No game in sight yet.

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  Kangaroomouse

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OP  8/02/14 6:43:02 AM#1

 

You can now buy another $90 ship, the Origin M50 Racer.

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I got to give it to these guys, they know how to milk the audience every month with a new ship.

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I wonder how many people work on these ships and the "commercials" for them and how many do work on the actual game.

  Zezda

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8/03/14 2:54:17 AM#2
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they have 230+ people working on the game and that these ships need to be put into the game anyway.
  Loktofeit

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8/03/14 3:01:22 AM#3
Originally posted by Zezda
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they have 230+ people working on the game and that these ships need to be put into the game anyway.

That doesn't change the fact that some people are paying upwards of a few hundred dollars - one ship at a time - for a game that they won't be able to play for a year or so. I mean, mad props to their devotion and all, but from the sidelines it seems like marketing is kicking ass and taking names at the fans' expense. 

 

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  Solar_Prophet

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WAAAGH!

8/03/14 3:11:30 AM#4
Originally posted by Zezda
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they have 230+ people working on the game and that these ships need to be put into the game anyway.

That's even worse. You'd think 230 people could have turned out something better than what amounts to a brief interactive tech demo by now. Guess they're all too busy designing ships to sell for exorbitant prices.

Of course, after some sites dared to question the quality of the dogfight module which was for all intents and purposes rather lackluster despite being delayed, Roberts throws a hissy fit and slams the gaming press.

Doesn't really inspire confidence, you know? Hope it works out though.

Example of a common core math problem: If you have four pencils and seven apples, how many pancakes will fit on the roof? Purple. Because aliens don't wear hats.

  The.agG

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8/03/14 3:17:33 AM#5
Worst part is that even now they are still working on AC with only people upto 250K allowed for Multiplayer. Even if you ignore the 6 months delay, they said that within 1-2 weeks of mid June everyone would be in the AC Multiplayer. It's August now and still stuck on AC.
  C0br4r

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8/03/14 9:27:07 AM#6
I agree completely. The funny yet sad thing is that most people who support Star Citizen don't even realize that 90% of the game only exists on paper. The only thing they have to show for it is Arena Commander. They literally have nothing concrete done for the persistent universe save for planning and conceptualization, which is what the actual game is supposed to eventually be. I mean for god's sake they literally hired the persistent universe project lead only a month or two ago. Anyone with basic deduction or reasoning skills can see that either A) This game will end up being vaporware or B) this game will be vastly inferior to what was promised and nothing like it was advertised.
  mbd1968

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8/03/14 9:32:28 AM#7
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Zezda
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they have 230+ people working on the game and that these ships need to be put into the game anyway.

That doesn't change the fact that some people are paying upwards of a few hundred dollars - one ship at a time - for a game that they won't be able to play for a year or so. I mean, mad props to their devotion and all, but from the sidelines it seems like marketing is kicking ass and taking names at the fans' expense. 

 

Nobody is forcing anybody to buy anything.

  rpmcmurphy

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8/03/14 9:37:25 AM#8
*** Sings to myself "Transformers, robots in disguise..." ***
  Azoth

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8/03/14 10:00:50 AM#9
Originally posted by C0br4r
I agree completely. The funny yet sad thing is that most people who support Star Citizen don't even realize that 90% of the game only exists on paper. The only thing they have to show for it is Arena Commander. They literally have nothing concrete done for the persistent universe save for planning and conceptualization, which is what the actual game is supposed to eventually be. I mean for god's sake they literally hired the persistent universe project lead only a month or two ago. Anyone with basic deduction or reasoning skills can see that either A) This game will end up being vaporware or B) this game will be vastly inferior to what was promised and nothing like it was advertised.

The people that really follow the project are aware that the game is far from  done. Anyone expecting a game before at least 2 years is totally delusional.

The problem is a lot of people that don't follow a game and feel the need to comment on some stuff that filters thru, without knowing what is happening.

  Loktofeit

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8/03/14 10:54:10 AM#10
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Zezda
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they have 230+ people working on the game and that these ships need to be put into the game anyway.

That doesn't change the fact that some people are paying upwards of a few hundred dollars - one ship at a time - for a game that they won't be able to play for a year or so. I mean, mad props to their devotion and all, but from the sidelines it seems like marketing is kicking ass and taking names at the fans' expense. 

 

Nobody is forcing anybody to buy anything.

Never said they did, but thank you for trying to contribute to the conversation. 

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  Tindale111

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8/03/14 11:07:18 AM#11
On the bright side Elite Dangerous is in beta 
  Ramonski7

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8/03/14 11:14:00 AM#12
Yet another fundraiser for someone's new Ferrari/bonus/boat/house. Actually it seems fans are paying for any perks the higher ups think they deserve.


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  Kuinn

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8/03/14 11:20:16 AM#13
I'm just glad that there seems to be a lot of ships at the launch. Also glad that there's a lot of ships that are not combat oriented primarily, or at all. That's all I really care about currently, the game will be released when it's ready and I'll see then how it holds up without any pre-payments from me.
  kresa3333

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8/03/14 11:23:18 AM#14

Honestly all this whinning does more harm then good... rushing things is allmost never a good idea and honestly even if it will take them 3-4 years but the end result will be as they promised its totaly worth the waiting, and like some people said YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING its only for the people that got the cash and dont mind supporting this vision.
Thinking of buying an early access game for playing rather then supporting is allmost always a bad idea ( altough i could give few exceptions... )

  JimmyYO

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8/03/14 11:31:59 AM#15

Everyone knows this game will either be the biggest Sci-fi game ever or the biggest scam. The problem is KS games thus far have had horrible quality control, mostly due to lack of accountability. Half the reason people donate is to fore go alot of corporate greed that's poisoning all the new MMO's these days.

 

Unfortunatly with RSI's no-content ship making strategy, their greed is beginning impress EA themselves.

  jeeshadow

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8/03/14 11:33:39 AM#16

I'm a backer, but i don't understand why i would keep buying ships.  I'm hoping the point of the game would be to earn these ships through gameplay.

 

It also worries me that so much attention is being put on adding new ships to an unfinished game.  I'd much rather that be a focus after the game is released.  But as it is, it seems like that could slow down the game making process when so much attention is put on the marketable ship designs.

 

:(

 

 

 

  syntax.error

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C64 Cracked Warez Intros FTW

8/03/14 11:35:19 AM#17

If they build it, you will buy

was.. going to post something.. but kept it short..

  Cayll

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8/03/14 11:39:22 AM#18

I understand where the OP is coming from on this, and I also understand the "It's our money" stance of the fans.

The issue I have with business practices like this is that it's becoming the norm in the entertainment industry, and it's a pretty scary thing. Kick starting, crowd funding, fan funding, whatever you want to call it, is a very dangerous path to go down as a consumer.

To put it into context. Let's say I own a restaurant. You all visit my restaurant and it's beautiful, nice paint job, nice furniture. A beautiful waiter/waitress comes over to you and charmingly offers you the most spectacular menu that you've ever seen. You're salivating looking at the food on the menu. You choose a few items off the menu, then the waiter/waitress says "Unfortunately we do not actually have any of this food, but if you want to pay for it now, we can get a team together and have them make the food, we will have it made within a few weeks, then you can come back, we will give you a VIP table and you get your drinks for free".

This is crowd funding. The problem is there isn't a legal guarantee with it. It's faith based buying. And it promotes companies to gouge you even more because it works. Next time you come back to my restaurant, I might tell you that the food is still not ready, but if you pay another $10, you get you keep your glass.

At the end of the day, you're down money, you're still hungry, and all you have is your "I ate at the Dirty Spoon Restaurant" sticker, even though you didn't.

So honestly, can we blame them for this type of business? We are the reason it's becoming the norm, because we live in a society of impulse buyers.

Also, if anyone is interested, I have a bridge to sell....

 

  JackRuby

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8/03/14 11:39:47 AM#19
Are these ships part of the funding goals, or just put out for no reason?
  SlyLoK

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8/03/14 11:39:48 AM#20
Anyone have proof of 230+ people working on the game and not just something someone else said? You would think with that kind of manpower they could churn out some proof of a game by now.
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