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  epoq

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7/21/14 4:40:20 PM#21

I've been back on Ebon Hawk for 2 months now, SWTOR is still a blast.  Really enjoy flashpoints, operations, and the bounty contract week.

 

I just REALLY want a full blown expansion.  Galactic Strongholds means absolutely NOTHING to me.  I want new planets and a new playable race or two FFS.

  Allacore69

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7/21/14 4:43:05 PM#22


Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Based on information from Superdata SWTOR is 4th sub based MMO in the world

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/

 

 


Cash shop numbers are in there too. If the cash shop was not there, SWTOR would be number 100.

  Allacore69

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7/21/14 4:45:58 PM#23


Originally posted by Mkilbride
I'm having trouble believing this list. For one, I don't see FFXI or XIV on it, both of which have released sub numbers recently to be in the hundreds of thousands for XI and millions for XIV.  Tera is dying, if you go to their forums, or in game where the new areas are completely void of human players. Regardless of server.  Also, I don't like Rift, but it's fairly popular.  Find it hard to believe it can be behind Lineage 2.

FF XIV ARR came out 3 months before 2014. These numbers are from 2013. Seeing as how FF XIV ARR gave 30 free days when purchased, this "Superdata" could only count 2 months of revenue.

Also, Square Enix and most other companies DO NOT share their data with outside sources.

  Foomerang

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7/21/14 4:51:10 PM#24


Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by psiic Strange that those numbers do not match internal investor quarterly reports for at least three of the top four companies.     Sometimes you have to take what the " experts " say with a grain of salt.
That's because superdata is nothing more than a site that has permission to make educated guesses and turn them into news stories. That's what their partnerships with ncsoft, ea, etc allow.  
I concur, I can't understand why companies who refuse to share their actual sub  numbers and financial data with the public would willingly turn over this information to SuperData and let them publish it on their behalf.

Unless of course SuperData was paying them to do so.  Still smells of scam to me.

 

 



I don't trust it either. And most of the games they listed I have no opinion about either way. But I do really like swtor and rift but I still think superdata is bs.

  tixylix

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7/21/14 5:48:37 PM#25
The base game was good, but it isn't an MMO, it is a hub game like GW2 or Diablo.
  User Deleted
7/22/14 5:10:18 AM#26

Be careful, last time i said this idiocy with superdata is BS and they dont have any more info than anyone else on the internet  (which they dont and their guess is as good as anyone elses) i got banned, but thats SWTOR forums moderation for ya.

It goes as far as being cited in articles on MMORPG.com which is beyond comprehnsion, those who do that should never be allowed to write anything public ever again.

  Thane

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7/22/14 5:13:02 AM#27
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Based on information from Superdata SWTOR is 4th sub based MMO in the world

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/

 

 

yes, because we all know, the US are a globe. beyond dat border only be living dragons.

<3 yanks.

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  User Deleted
7/22/14 5:14:02 AM#28
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by psiic
Strange that those numbers do not match internal investor quarterly reports for at least three of the top four companies.

 

 

Sometimes you have to take what the " experts " say with a grain of salt.



That's because superdata is nothing more than a site that has permission to make educated guesses and turn them into news stories. That's what their partnerships with ncsoft, ea, etc allow.

 

I concur, I can't understand why companies who refuse to share their actual sub  numbers and financial data with the public would willingly turn over this information to SuperData and let them publish it on their behalf.

Unless of course SuperData was paying them to do so.  Still smells of scam to me.

 

 

They do not, numbers for those who actually do publish numbers are easily available to anyone (NCSoft, CCP), and rest dont share it even with shareholders, let alone with random internet crap like superdata.

Though some indie developer might sell info for some change. True dat.

  DocBrody

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Joined: 4/24/13
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7/22/14 6:25:29 AM#29

hope that overpaid analyst who predicted 60 million players got fired. What a jerk.

 

This game could have been amazing, in reality it is only "okay". Not bad, but not better than good either.

I'm subbed now looking forward to Strongholds but there is still lot that just disappoints.

The many loading screens, the lackluster spaceship cutscenes, no jump to lightspped type PvE space, tunneled static planets without day night cycle are still there. And no sense of badass Star Wars speed anywhere. It is just a rather slow experience overall. The best thing is the PvP, that is very enjoyable I play it every day but the PvE is sadly rather repetitive.

  TheLizardbones

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7/22/14 6:28:32 AM#30
Originally posted by Malabooga

Be careful, last time i said this idiocy with superdata is BS and they dont have any more info than anyone else on the internet  (which they dont and their guess is as good as anyone elses) i got banned, but thats SWTOR forums moderation for ya.

It goes as far as being cited in articles on MMORPG.com which is beyond comprehnsion, those who do that should never be allowed to write anything public ever again.

 

Except they do have more information than anyone else on the internet.  In fact, they probably have more information than everyone else on the internet aside from the developers and publishers themselves.  Superdata is working directly with the developers and publishers.  Where do you think they get their information?  Raptr?  Xfire?  No.  It comes from the people producing the games.

 

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That chart with revenues for different games is for 2013.  Kind of old.  Would be more interesting to see something for YTD 2014.

 

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  kitarad

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Joined: 12/17/10
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7/22/14 6:32:27 AM#31
Haven't you got the memo yet ? SuperData can only be used to support numbers in ESO not SWTOR.

  User Deleted
7/22/14 7:28:14 AM#32
Originally posted by kitarad
Haven't you got the memo yet ? SuperData can only be used to support numbers in ESO not SWTOR.

Its same as SWTOR, random internetz BS.

The only people to blame are those who make those threads and use this "data" for games that dont release (and even go to great lenghts to hide actual numbers even on conference calls to shareholders) to public.

  User Deleted
7/22/14 7:30:30 AM#33
Originally posted by lizardbones
Originally posted by Malabooga

Be careful, last time i said this idiocy with superdata is BS and they dont have any more info than anyone else on the internet  (which they dont and their guess is as good as anyone elses) i got banned, but thats SWTOR forums moderation for ya.

It goes as far as being cited in articles on MMORPG.com which is beyond comprehnsion, those who do that should never be allowed to write anything public ever again.

 

Except they do have more information than anyone else on the internet.  In fact, they probably have more information than everyone else on the internet aside from the developers and publishers themselves.  Superdata is working directly with the developers and publishers.  Where do you think they get their information?  Raptr?  Xfire?  No.  It comes from the people producing the games.

 

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That chart with revenues for different games is for 2013.  Kind of old.  Would be more interesting to see something for YTD 2014.

 

Im also working directly with "developers and publishers", some of my friends made some apps.

It makes ME king of the hill and prime authority on every number on anything.

Yes, for games that dont release numbers they have "third party sources" exactly like Raptr, XFire, conference calls and such. Read their actual page dude.

  bleakraven

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7/22/14 7:34:23 AM#34
I've repeatedly subbed out of frustration at all the limitations... I feel dirty now.
  PioneerStew

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Joined: 9/24/11
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7/22/14 7:39:27 AM#35
I don't particularly trust these figures, but why would anyone be surprised if SWTOR did prove to be the 4th biggest Sub MMO in the world?  
  Ekadd

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Joined: 7/09/09
Posts: 243

7/22/14 7:50:42 AM#36
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Based on information from Superdata SWTOR is 4th sub based MMO in the world

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/

 

 

FFXIV: ARR has more than 2 million players and not even in first 10 games. Like Rift has less players than FFXIV: ARR but 10th on list and you really believe that list?

  phoenix_genma_ken

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7/22/14 9:44:01 AM#37
Agent story class plz and i am back
  doodphace

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7/22/14 10:00:47 AM#38
Originally posted by Mkilbride
I'm having trouble believing this list. For one, I don't see FFXI or XIV on it, both of which have released sub numbers recently to be in the hundreds of thousands for XI and millions for XIV.  Tera is dying, if you go to their forums, or in game where the new areas are completely void of human players. Regardless of server.  Also, I don't like Rift, but it's fairly popular.  Find it hard to believe it can be behind Lineage 2.

FFXIV has not released subscriber data, they have only released accounts registered/created and concurrent peak logins. Pretty much all sites reported this, though there was 1 that called it subscriptioins, and every FFXIV fan here ran with that one site. Proof you ask for? Here you go.

Just to reiterate, registered accounts mean total amount of people who have played the game at one point or another since its release, it is not active subscribers.

  doodphace

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7/22/14 10:03:18 AM#39
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Based on information from Superdata SWTOR is 4th sub based MMO in the world

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/

 

 

FFXIV: ARR has more than 2 million players and not even in first 10 games. Like Rift has less players than FFXIV: ARR but 10th on list and you really believe that list?

FFXIV: ARR has 2 million registered accounts, not players. People on this site really should learn the difference between a "registered account" and a "subscriber/player"

  Tyggs

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7/22/14 10:06:11 AM#40
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Based on information from Superdata SWTOR is 4th sub based MMO in the world

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/

 

 

FFXIV: ARR has more than 2 million players and not even in first 10 games. Like Rift has less players than FFXIV: ARR but 10th on list and you really believe that list?

Now know know the power of the cash shop.

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