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  nariusseldon

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7/10/14 5:13:33 PM#41
Originally posted by Aeonblades
 

I believe what Foom was saying was that the games are out there that are fun, have decent communities and are entertaining. You just have to put forth the effort to find the game that's right for you with the right people. Nothing in life is free, despite many claims otherwise.

 

What effort? Aside from a little time, there is very little effort in finding games. In fact, it is up to them to find the players (by advertising, and what-no).

Seriously .. does any gamer cannot recite like 10 games he like, and 10 upcoming games he wants to play  without making any effort?

  Cephus404

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7/10/14 7:38:23 PM#42
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Cephus404 Real life.  I'm not playing any MMOs, or any video games for that matter, and haven't for quite some time.  There just aren't any out there that do what I want, therefore I don't play any.
What do you want them to do exactly? And please spare me the philosophies and feelings.  
I want them to be fun.  I want them to have decent communities.  I want them to give me an entertaining experience.  None of them do that today.

Well at least you admit the problem is you. Props to you for being honest with yourself.

 

Ah yes, because we're all supposed to hate all the games that we play. However could I have been so wrong?

Played: UO, EQ, WoW, DDO, SWG, AO, CoH, EvE, TR, AoC, GW, GA, Aion, Allods, lots more
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  Cephus404

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7/10/14 7:41:45 PM#43
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Cephus404 Real life.  I'm not playing any MMOs, or any video games for that matter, and haven't for quite some time.  There just aren't any out there that do what I want, therefore I don't play any.
What do you want them to do exactly? And please spare me the philosophies and feelings.  
I want them to be fun.  I want them to have decent communities.  I want them to give me an entertaining experience.  None of them do that today.

Well at least you admit the problem is you. Props to you for being honest with yourself.

 

uh? what is the problem to desire fun from entertainment products?

I believe what Foom was saying was that the games are out there that are fun, have decent communities and are entertaining. You just have to put forth the effort to find the game that's right for you with the right people. Nothing in life is free, despite many claims otherwise.

 

I may be wrong here, but that's the impression I got from the post.

Which is the problem because, so far at least, I haven't found any MMOs, at least not recently, that are both fun, or that have decent communities.  Where these games that *I* will think are fun might be, I have no idea because I've looked long and hard and have come up empty. 

Where this becomes an issue, of course, is that he assumes that because *HE* finds it fun, that everyone else would find it fun as well.  That's a faulty assumption.

Played: UO, EQ, WoW, DDO, SWG, AO, CoH, EvE, TR, AoC, GW, GA, Aion, Allods, lots more
Relatively Recently (Re)Played: HL2 (all), Halo (PC, all), Batman:AA; AC, ME, BS, DA, FO3, DS, Doom (all), LFD1&2, KOTOR, Portal 1&2, Blink, Elder Scrolls (all), lots more
Now Playing: None
Hope: None

  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

7/10/14 7:52:13 PM#44

B2P.

 

I didnt choose B2P+P2P because im not currently subbed to WoW. Wildstar isnt worth it to me. ESO isnt fixed yet to justify the sub, and XIV always has something that changes my mind about resubbing. So i just went back to GW2 and im happy.

 

Other games that keep me off mmos from time to time? PS4 if that counts (although i havent played it in a few days)..... Also classic JRPGs on emulators. I love classic games, mostly classic JRPGs.

  inemosz

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7/11/14 12:39:51 AM#45

GW2 has the best model, ever.

My opinion, of course.

  sunandshadow

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7/11/14 3:24:44 AM#46


Originally posted by nariusseldon
What effort? Aside from a little time, there is very little effort in finding games. In fact, it is up to them to find the players (by advertising, and what-no). Seriously .. does any gamer cannot recite like 10 games he like, and 10 upcoming games he wants to play  without making any effort?

Me, for one - I _never_ have more than 2 upcoming games I'm looking forward to, and that's both MMO and singleplayer together. At least half the time I have nothing I'm looking forward to. :( I have put a LOT of effort into researching MMOs, looking for one I might really love playing, but the features I'm looking for aren't getting taken up into/spread through the genre very fast. As for singleplayer games, when the ones I like get sequels at all, they tend to go in the opposite direction I was hoping.

  sadWinds

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7/11/14 3:35:48 AM#47
P2P(wow) and some steam games. Wildstar and ESO are still on my gonna try list. Gotten bored of d3, maybe 2.10 will bring me back idk. 

  nariusseldon

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7/11/14 1:06:17 PM#48
Originally posted by sadWinds
P2P(wow) and some steam games. Wildstar and ESO are still on my gonna try list. Gotten bored of d3, maybe 2.10 will bring me back idk. 

If you like D3 (at least for a while), try Incredible Adv of Van Helsing .. very polished indie diablo-ish game in a steampunk world.

Everything gets boring sooner or later. I took a long hiatus from D3 until RoS .. and the game was fun again. New content always help.

2.10 will be fun though .. with all the new stuff. People are already theorycrafting new builds based on PTR or even just released notes (like the new leg gems).

 

  nbtscan

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7/11/14 2:22:48 PM#49

Been playing FFXIV, I doubt anything is going to draw me away from it.  Pretty much sworn off MMOs altogether if I quit this game anyway.

 

  Aeonblades

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7/11/14 2:27:06 PM#50
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Aeonblades
 

I believe what Foom was saying was that the games are out there that are fun, have decent communities and are entertaining. You just have to put forth the effort to find the game that's right for you with the right people. Nothing in life is free, despite many claims otherwise.

 

What effort? Aside from a little time, there is very little effort in finding games. In fact, it is up to them to find the players (by advertising, and what-no).

Seriously .. does any gamer cannot recite like 10 games he like, and 10 upcoming games he wants to play  without making any effort?

10 games I like would be very easy to recite. 10 games I'm looking forward to don't exist. I can only think of about 4 that genuinely interest me at the moment that I will consider buying in the future:

ArchAge

Dark Souls II

EQ:N

Camelot Unchained

 

I can't think of another game right now that I'm looking forward to in all honesty.

 

The effort I'm referring to is not effort to find game, it's effort to find a community and make friends. Friends don't just fall into your lap in real life, why would they in an online world? If people don't make the effort to form their own community, what's the point in MMO's?

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  Phaserlight

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7/11/14 4:29:35 PM#51
Poll lacks a P2P only option (free download / trial), which is where I'd be.

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  nariusseldon

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7/12/14 1:47:31 PM#52
Originally posted by Aeonblades

The effort I'm referring to is not effort to find game, it's effort to find a community and make friends. Friends don't just fall into your lap in real life, why would they in an online world? If people don't make the effort to form their own community, what's the point in MMO's?

To be entertained by the gameplay and content?

  Kopogero

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OP  7/12/14 5:28:21 PM#53

Based on this poll so far half of the community is not willing to pay a monthly fee for what's available out there. This just proves that it's not us the MMO gamers, but it's the lack of quality MMO's out there we are willing to pay $ on. What's depressing is the fact that 20% have just given up on the genre for the time being and are involved with other activities.

Further, this poll was brought month after WildStar release (which was highly hyped and what's suppose to be a high quality, WOW polished clone). Months before Wildstar ESO came out as B2P+P2P as well. Overall, all I can say is I'm proud of this community that is pushing the genre forward and voting wisely with their wallets.

I expect if things continue in this direction we would be fortunate to see another great AAA MMO that would be DIFFERENT from what we've been seeing dominanting and controlling the market for the last decade.

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  Phry

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7/12/14 5:35:31 PM#54
Originally posted by Kopogero

Based on this poll so far half of the community is not willing to pay a monthly fee for what's available out there. This just proves that it's not us the MMO gamers, but it's the lack of quality MMO's out there we are willing to pay $ on. What's depressing is the fact that 20% have just given up on the genre for the time being and are involved with other activities.

Further, this poll was brought month after WildStar release (which was highly hyped and what's suppose to be a high quality, WOW polished clone). Months before Wildstar ESO came out as B2P+P2P as well. Overall, all I can say is I'm proud of this community that is pushing the genre forward and voting wisely with their wallets.

I expect if things continue in this direction we would be fortunate to see another great AAA MMO that would be DIFFERENT from what we've been seeing dominanting and controlling the market for the last decade.

Think you must have misread the poll, as it clearly says that 52% are playing P2P and only 14% playing F2P games, a further 12 percent playing B2P, the rest don't seem to be playing any. If anything it seems to indicate that F2P is on the way out. interesting results either way, given how much F2P is touted as the future of MMO's, hardly anybody actually seems to be interested in playing them. Though it may just be an indicator of the quality of the currently available F2P MMO's.

  User Deleted
7/12/14 6:58:50 PM#55


Originally posted by Kopogero
Based on this poll so far half of the community is not willing to pay a monthly fee for what's available out there. This just proves that it's not us the MMO gamers, but it's the lack of quality MMO's out there we are willing to pay $ on. What's depressing is the fact that 20% have just given up on the genre for the time being and are involved with other activities.

Further, this poll was brought month after WildStar release (which was highly hyped and what's suppose to be a high quality, WOW polished clone). Months before Wildstar ESO came out as B2P+P2P as well. Overall, all I can say is I'm proud of this community that is pushing the genre forward and voting wisely with their wallets.

I expect if things continue in this direction we would be fortunate to see another great AAA MMO that would be DIFFERENT from what we've been seeing dominanting and controlling the market for the last decade.



Uh what? Poll shows the majority playing pay to play.

  nariusseldon

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7/12/14 7:29:49 PM#56
Originally posted by Foomerang



Uh what? Poll shows the majority playing pay to play.

 

obvious polls on this site are not representative.

 

  User Deleted
7/12/14 7:31:10 PM#57


Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Foomerang


Uh what? Poll shows the majority playing pay to play.  
obvious polls on this site are not representative.

 



Haha!

  Foobarx

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7/12/14 7:34:32 PM#58

Clearly if they are on this site, they aren't playing anything.  And this site is free... what's that say?  Would they come here if they had to pay a fee?  

  nariusseldon

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7/12/14 7:39:15 PM#59
Originally posted by Foobarx

Clearly if they are on this site, they aren't playing anything.  And this site is free... what's that say?  Would they come here if they had to pay a fee?  

You never heard of mult-tasking and multi-boxing?

  Foobarx

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7/12/14 7:42:44 PM#60
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Foobarx

Clearly if they are on this site, they aren't playing anything.  And this site is free... what's that say?  Would they come here if they had to pay a fee?  

You never heard of mult-tasking and multi-boxing?

Yes I have and typically that usually means, not doing either thing particularly well.  Try to ride a bike underwater while flapping your arms like a bird... proof that multi-tasking and multi-boxing is a farce.

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