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  bartliolio

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OP  7/07/14 10:20:49 PM#1

While there are plenty of things that can be praised about the strides games have made the past 5-10 years, not all changes have been for the better. What are some features or systems in MMORPGs that you absolutely loathe?

For me: Daily quests that are mandatory for progression.

I am not the type of person to read a novel, watch a movie, or play a game more than once-- so I hate when an MMO asks me to do the same quest  chain over and over again. I would rather mindlessly kill a monster 100x then have to repeat a quest multiple times.

  xAPOCx

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7/07/14 10:35:03 PM#2

The worst common feature is this...

 

                    

  User Deleted
7/07/14 10:37:54 PM#3

I don't like in game cash shops. I didn't mind it as much when they were only on the main website. But with buttons in my menu bar, or reminder popups, or just a straight up in game npc that can take your real money. Bleh no thanks.

  bartliolio

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OP  7/07/14 10:44:54 PM#4
Originally posted by xAPOCx

The worst common feature is this...

 

                    

So does this mean you'd prefer to have to speak to each npc individually to find out what their "quests" are? Not saying that's a bad thing, but this is a feature that's even bled into traditional RPGS and Action RPGS. 

What is the alternative you'd prefer?

  bartliolio

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OP  7/07/14 10:46:26 PM#5
Originally posted by Foomerang

I don't like in game cash shops. I didn't mind it as much when they were only on the main website. But with buttons in my menu bar, or reminder popups, or just a straight up in game npc that can take your real money. Bleh no thanks.

Oh and when you can't customize the UI to remove the "Shop" button... it's definitely annoying. I am sure they design it that way on purpose though, because they want you to always be aware that you can buy yourself convenience. 

  ryvendark

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7/07/14 10:50:50 PM#6

I'm finding levels are something I like less and less. It gates so much of the content and makes the whole world seem like it's on rails. It kills any real exploration because you can only really go to the zones you're the right level for. You can only play with people of your level and only do what the game tells you, you can do at that level. And once you level past something you never have any reason to ever go back.

It also means that end game is limited to the very small scope of activities they provide because everything else is lower level.

  deniter

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7/07/14 10:53:01 PM#7

Linear gameplay.

Playing through predefined tunnel of quests and events that ends eventually and gives you an option to participate on whatever type of an endgame a game has to offer is by far the worst feature in modern MMOs.

This kind of gameplay is fine in SPGs but MMOs should offer more freedom.

  Colt47

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7/07/14 10:54:28 PM#8
Originally posted by bartliolio
Originally posted by xAPOCx

The worst common feature is this...

 

                    

So does this mean you'd prefer to have to speak to each npc individually to find out what their "quests" are? Not saying that's a bad thing, but this is a feature that's even bled into traditional RPGS and Action RPGS. 

What is the alternative you'd prefer?

the problem with the quest marker is that if people are more interested in looking around for orange exclamation points than freely chatting with NPCs that doesn't bode well for how interesting the actual game world is.  When I play The Legend of Zelda: The Windwaker, there aren't any exclamation points, yet I still manage to find all the quests because it's interesting to talk to the island inhabitants.  It's hard to say the same about the NPCs in many MMORPGs.

  itchmon

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7/07/14 10:59:00 PM#9

for me it's one thing above all others in terms of features that are an abomination.

 

group-finder/raid-finder....

 

I think of the 10 or so people i met in EQ 12 years ago that i still talk to to this day, 9 of them i met through getting a group together the old fashioned way:  by communicating.

 

also, when GF are available somehow the overland population disappears in some MMOs.  last time i went to azeroth, i was on a high pop server but saw very few people because everyone was in a groupfinder dungeon.

 

For a runner-up i will go with pets and outfits that are asynchronous with the rest of the game, such as the motorcars in Archeage (which i am still looking forward to despite said cars)

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  MacShwangus

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7/07/14 10:59:29 PM#10
Quests.
  bartliolio

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OP  7/07/14 11:05:28 PM#11
Originally posted by ryvendark

I'm finding levels are something I like less and less. It gates so much of the content and makes the whole world seem like it's on rails. It kills any real exploration because you can only really go to the zones you're the right level for. You can only play with people of your level and only do what the game tells you, you can do at that level. And once you level past something you never have any reason to ever go back.

It also means that end game is limited to the very small scope of activities they provide because everything else is lower level.

I was starting to think about this a lot too-- I don't know if you would know of it, but there was once a PVP-only MMO called Fury that took this concept to the extreme. It's implementation was a bit lacking, but it was the closest to a level-less MMO that I have seen.

Honestly I wouldn't mind a game that has a series of increasingly difficult (skill difficulty, not artificial stat difficulty) content. 

  Arglebargle

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7/07/14 11:08:28 PM#12
Static spawns of both mobs and resources.   Leads to utterly predictable situations.   And a host of issues. 

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  zach_b

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7/07/14 11:18:41 PM#13
Trammel.
  azzamasin

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7/07/14 11:24:35 PM#14

For me it would have to be linearity in design.  From linear quests, to linear zones.

 

I want the freedom to go where I want, when I want.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Joeyjojoshabadu

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7/08/14 1:10:24 AM#15
Originally posted by bartliolio
Originally posted by xAPOCx

The worst common feature is this...

 

                    

So does this mean you'd prefer to have to speak to each npc individually to find out what their "quests" are? Not saying that's a bad thing, but this is a feature that's even bled into traditional RPGS and Action RPGS. 

What is the alternative you'd prefer?

I think it's a bit of a crutch. A good idea may be for devs to design a game to be fun and engaging at its core, without any quests - then add quests later. Use them as enhancements rather than core gameplay.

  rojoArcueid

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7/08/14 1:22:28 AM#16
Originally posted by bartliolio
Originally posted by xAPOCx

The worst common feature is this...

 

                    

So does this mean you'd prefer to have to speak to each npc individually to find out what their "quests" are? Not saying that's a bad thing, but this is a feature that's even bled into traditional RPGS and Action RPGS. 

What is the alternative you'd prefer?

the problem is not seeing the ! sign for easy access to tasks. The ! only tells you who has a task for you. The problem is the generic task system of leveling and story telling. Story telling needs to be told with epic quests, not boring and generic tasks. And if the leveling of your character is tied to it then that makes questing even more important than most features in an mmo. It needs to be well done.

So that is the worst common feature in mmos, the horrible boring generic task collection simulator. Until they start breaking that mold and coming up with different ways to tell the story AND progressing your character then they will all make the same boring mmo over and over.

There is already enough evidence out there, many mmos adding X feature, Y feature, Z feature, and all of them feel the same because 90% of the game relies on questing to reach max level and they all feel like the same boring game. That is what needs to change. GW2 focused on fixing that but while it feels fresher than the rest of generic tasks it still didnt get far enough. More companies need to take leveling and questing to the next level if they want a fresh themepark mmo again.

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

7/08/14 1:43:06 AM#17

2 things - lagg & repetition

 

Lag - pretty self explan.  Only thing I can add is not everyone is using a decent PC.  Fix this (nicely) and we fix half the problem.

 

Repetition - "there's nothing new under the sun"  Ec1:9 - Holy Bible.  I can personally think of a hundred new ways to plot an mmo but devs just keep repeating the same damn package.  New paint job, same old garage.

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  Nadia

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7/08/14 2:38:51 AM#18

private instancing / phasing

- where you can see only your group and no one else

  Kuviski

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7/08/14 2:43:28 AM#19

Probably dungeon finders.

The concept of automated group finding alone isn't the problem, but the teleportation and extra rewards are.

To paraphrase a videoblogger who likes to rant about modern MMORPGs, not many things are as immersion breaking as when you play, say, a warrior character who can never learn to create portals or teleport himself around the world because he is not a wizard, but when this warrior hits level X, they can suddenly magically teleport to any dungeon of the appropriate level.

  iixviiiix

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7/08/14 3:30:32 AM#20
Originally posted by Nadia

private instancing / phasing

- where you can see only your group and no one else

Agree , if there are worst feature in MMOGames , it's instance

 

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